Sit Down Shut Up Mark Out Ep. 108

The latest episode of Sit Down Shut Up Mark Out dives deep into the fallout from Wrestling Dontaku Night 2 and the growing realization that the partnership between AEW and New Japan Pro-Wrestling may fundamentally change the way modern wrestling stories are told. Blade Daily and returning guest host Antione Raphael discuss how Will Ospreay’s decision to align himself with the power and philosophy of The Death Riders immediately created ripple effects throughout multiple companies and factions. Callum Newman’s actions, the rising importance of United Empire, and the connections to The Dogs all point toward a wrestling landscape where no promotion exists in isolation anymore. Instead of occasional crossover appearances, wrestling now feels like a fully interconnected world where actions in one company can instantly reshape narratives somewhere else.

The fellas also discuss the latest developments from AEW Dynamite, Darby Allin’s increasingly chaotic and compelling World Championship reign, and why wrestling suddenly feels unpredictable again in the best possible way. For years, fans have wanted promotions to embrace the scale and potential of their partnerships rather than treating them like temporary novelties. Now, with AEW and NJPW willing to let stories evolve across borders, stables, and rosters, the possibilities feel endless. Whether it’s faction warfare, shifting alliances, or long-term storytelling stretching across multiple promotions, Sit Down Shut Up Mark Out explores why this current era may become one of the most creatively ambitious periods in pro wrestling history.

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    Sickos Club.

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    Hey, come here.

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    You like pro wrestling?

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    We got a little something something for you.

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    Two fans, 3,000 miles away.

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    We've each been watching for more than 30 years.

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    Celebrate the art form.

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    The homoeroticism.

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    We hate great magic.

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    We hate analyzing stories.

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    We hate experts.

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    We just sit down, shut up, and mark.

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    Everybody and welcome to another edition of sit down, shut up, mark out a pro wrestling podcast about pro wrestling.

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    I am Blay Daily and I am joined by my friend from Jacksonville.

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    Antoine.

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    Antoine. Hello. Hello, everybody.

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    Wonderful sickos and family.

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    That's right.

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    That's right.

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    Thank you so much for joining.

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    It's been a minute, friendo, but I'm so happy to have you here.

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    We've been doing this for two years.

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    This show.

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    This is like kind of low key our second year anniversary episode because we believe that pro wrestling podcast should be talking about, you know, the wrestling that takes place on the shows that we watch instead of ratings or ticket sales or demo rankings or whatever other shit people drone on about on these things.

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    And it turned out we were right.

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    If you feel the same way, make sure you hit subscribe on whatever podcast platform you're listening to us on.

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    Hit that like button.

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    Leave a comment.

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    Tell me why I'm wrong about whatever it is I'm going to say because I even I don't know.

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    But I didn't realize it was two years.

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    Book says the same thing.

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    That's crazy.

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    It does feel like yesterday.

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    Yeah.

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    Yeah.

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    That's incredible.

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    Oh, my God.

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    Look at this.

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    Look at this one.

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    Hi, guys.

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    I just wanted to share my daughter was fan of the night at Collision in Peoria.

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    It was awesome.

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    That is awesome.

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    Gary.

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    That is awesome.

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    Gary.

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    Thank you for sharing that with us.

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    Gary.

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    That is rad.

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    Another thing that was awesome while we're talking about awesome things is a second episode of pro wrestling forever debuted on Monday.

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    We were live on Monday on the pro wrestling forever channel.

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    That's pro wrestling forever pod.

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    Make sure you subscribe to that.

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    We were talking all about factions and Antoine you as somebody I've talked to many times about factions on and off screen.

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    We had a lot of fun on that episode disagreeing with each other vehemently.

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    You called me out for being an elite lover.

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    And you're not wrong.

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    A little bit.

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    You're not wrong.

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    You're not wrong.

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    It's true.

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    It's true.

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    The scare glow Antoine.

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    I know the answer to this question.

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    Have you had a chance to see any R.O.H. shows in Florida?

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    Yes I did.

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    I didn't get to go to this set of tapings for May because they were early in the month.

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    They were like two three weeks right after the others.

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    So but April or the month before I can't remember it was March.

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    I went to it was April.

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    Yes I went to those set of tapings.

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    It was about four to five hours.

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    And it was amazing.

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    It was I had Athena a foot and a half from me.

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    We had to have a girl a little girl move to the back row because Athena threw my girl so hard that she hit the little girl and little girl went flying.

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    Holy crap.

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    So yes I love the cozy atmosphere.

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    I love where it's at.

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    And also the place that they're filming happens to be a public broadcasting station.

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    Yeah that's what it is going to something that actually matters.

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    Yeah.

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    Yeah.

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    Well and there's you know they also did improve the look a bit from the first set of tapings.

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    And I've noticed that it's continued to improve.

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    So it's you know whatever reservations people might have had about it from the very start.

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    It's it's a work in progress but they're building something really cool there.

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    And it's nice for our way to have its own look and to have a crowd that's there to see our way instead of a tired crowd that's already watched a long wrestling show trying to watch our way to you know exactly.

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    I felt like it gave a spotlight to those specific ring of honor wrestlers.

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    I think the only thing that they'll probably need to work on is the locker room because it was tiny.

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    You could hear him in the back cursing up a storm having all the fun in the world.

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    I got to see A.R. Fox have fun too as well.

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    And walked past what was it Blake Christian.

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    Yeah I think it was Blake Christian.

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    It's so tiny where they have to get dressed so I see that getting better.

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    But yeah the atmosphere the fans were so into it like I don't know how the fan react.

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    I don't know how the reaction was at home but for us live it was it was wild for five hours.

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    It's it's you know like I said it's a lot better than that first set of tapings.

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    You know they had that big white screen that was just there like you know it was just kind of ugly and unexplainable really.

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    And I know it was just to cover something up but it's like you couldn't have called any more attention to that area than a giant white screen.

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    Gary adds that it was so cool Arkady interviewed her and she met her favorite wrestler Willow.

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    That is so cool.

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    It couldn't have ended with a better ending because a perfect wrestler you'd want a child to meet a girl to meet a hero.

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    That was awesome.

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    Hell yeah.

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    Now before we move off ROH stuff real quick Antoine I just want to get your way in because we got super card.

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    Is it super card?

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    That's the event next weekend.

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    Yeah okay.

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    So it's next Friday and that's Friday the 15th and we got Bandito versus Blake Christian.

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    Now let me ask you something.

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    Did they introduce this whole swerve thing because swerve is going to use his quote unquote power to screw Bandito out of the world title.

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    What swerve is going to do next is almost even unclear to me.

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    I ring of honor with their pay-per-views they don't do a lot of nonsense.

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    I wouldn't call it nonsense.

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    They don't do a lot of run ins a lot of angle setups.

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    It really is going to be Blake Christian versus Bandito.

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    So I would lean my answer would say no.

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    Okay.

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    But I wouldn't be surprised if somebody got involved on Blake Christian's behalf.

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    Yeah.

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    Because you got Jay lethal.

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    You got God what's his name?

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    I can never remember his name tag team partner swirl.

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    God damn it partner Lee Johnson Lee Johnson.

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    Thank you.

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    It's just a very normal sounding name.

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    And so I had to lose it sometimes.

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    Yeah.

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    You got Lee and you've got Jay lethal.

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    And so you there's possibilities there.

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    That's kind of the only way I could see Blake Christian winning this match.

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    Otherwise on paper, it looks a little predictable to me personally.

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    But we'll get we'll get some takes on that.

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    We'll get some takes on that.

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    But I'm down for the swirl to get a push.

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    I'm down for Blake Christian to get a push.

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    I'd be down for him to be champion under the right circumstances.

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    You know, I absolutely would.

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    I actually thought that they were going to take the belt off of Bandito already.

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    And so for me, him having it is after having that shoulder injury, I watched that show in CML in Mexico where he got injured.

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    It was bad.

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    He's got to take some time off soon.

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    And it's all going to go down to when they want him to drop the title.

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    Yeah.

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    Well, and I think it's it's he's unless you're going to get a TV show for our age, Bandito should be an AW probably.

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    And I think that, you know, the problem with the Ring of Honor, the men's world title anyway, is that the champion, whoever it is, is usually not on the show anyway.

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    And so it's like, put it on somebody who's going to be on the show.

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    You know, that would be better than kind of the situation would be very, you know, that would be very nice to actually see the Ring of Honor men's world champion on the show.

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    Yeah, it was wonderful seeing the Ring of Honor men's women's world champion on the show.

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    I cannot see him.

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    Exactly.

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    Tell me.

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    So even though I don't think it's going to happen, I really honestly don't.

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    I would not be surprised if Blake Roshan walks out of this with the title because I think Bandito needs some time off.

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    Yeah.

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    Yeah.

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    I hate to say that because I want Bandito to be.

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    Oh, and then they can use swerve to maul him and just destroy him.

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    That's a potential thing they could do.

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    Well, let's let's let's get upbeat about something, huh?

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    Because as people know, Bandito is my wrestle son.

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    And so the thought of him getting destroyed is is a little painful.

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    I know I didn't want to give you the bad news, but you know, it's all right, man.

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    I mean, it's got to do it, man.

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    It's OK.

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    I got to put him down.

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    I got to save him from myself right now because I was ugly looking, dude.

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    And I'm like, you ain't take no time off.

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    I've had that injury and it still hurts me today.

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    Like, what are you doing?

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    I know.

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    I know.

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    You know, these guys, you got to drag them away.

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    It's terrible.

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    OK, so after dynasty, Will Osprey made the surprising decision to put his burden with John Moxley down

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    and not to join the Death Riders as he's made clear sense, but to let them train him to get his neck to full strength and help him become basically the ultimate killing machine.

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    Right.

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    But Antoine, this comes with a lot.

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    And I mean, a lot of baggage.

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    Right.

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    Because first things first, he is a member of the United Empire.

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    Right.

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    Which he founded.

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    That's his group.

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    He founded it.

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    And he had already been in Japan when Callum Newman won the IWGP World Championship from Toyota Tsuji.

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    And he very much did not approve of the way that Callum won the belt.

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    Right.

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    He was pretty adamant that that was not the way to do it.

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    And Callum just kind of brushed him off.

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    Right.

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    And so we go to wrestling Dantaku night too.

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    Right.

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    Callum is going to defend the belt against my boy, Shingo Takagi, who will never get the fucking do he deserves.

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    That's another matter entirely.

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    That is another matter for another day.

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    It is.

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    It is.

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    But earlier in the night, Will Hanare and Gredo Kahn win the never six man tag titles from Goto Yoshi Hashi and Oleg Bolton.

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    Bolton Oleg.

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    Bolton Oleg.

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    What?

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    Why do I have his name written backwards?

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    Bolton Oleg.

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    I knew that didn't sound right.

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    Anyway, they win the six man tag titles from him.

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    From them.

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    Right.

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    That's kind of cool that Ospreay is like pretty regularly, you know, regularly schmegular.

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    He's never won.

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    He's never been a tag champion before.

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    So it was something that was kind of cool that he's never done before.

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    And so just being there in New Japan means more than people realize.

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    Well, it means a lot.

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    And so they have that occurs earlier in the night.

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    But, you know, you've had this tension building within, you know, Hanare has been acting like a heel, like a big ass heel.

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    They're all acting like heels to some varying degrees.

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    Right.

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    Gredo Kahn's acting heelish.

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    They're beating people up after matches for no reason, really.

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    Right.

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    Especially people Callum Newman wrestles, which brings me to the next point.

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    Shingo Takagi and Callum Newman have a very good match.

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    A very good match that had a terrible ending to me.

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    Well, they are kind of House of Torturing Callum Newman, aren't they?

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    Like, have you not noticed that?

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    Like, I'm going to make a hopefully my people you get this out there, but he reminds me of Chris Paul.

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    There's a lot of known as a nut puncher in basketball.

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    I didn't actually know that was his reputation.

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    Interesting.

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    Yes, he had a reputation for punching other players in the nuts.

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    And it's from the players.

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    They don't like him.

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    Wow.

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    Or better yet, Shinsuke.

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    That's right.

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    Right.

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    And yeah, so he kicks people in the balls a lot.

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    And in this match, he kicked Shingo in the balls and hit him with his finisher and it didn't pin him.

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    And then he did it basically the exact same thing again.

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    And it did pin him.

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    And, you know, they're trying to make Shingo look strong or whatever.

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    But I was not happy.

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    When Japan booze like that, you made them error.

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    Yeah.

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    Well, and there's some angles to all of this that we'll get into.

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    But after the match, Will Ospreay is not happy.

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    You know, he's not happy.

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    Shingo and he have been respectful rivals.

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    Right.

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    For seven years.

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    When Will had to give the title up because of injury, this is something that's also going to play into the entire story.

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    Will was the IWGP world heavyweight champion.

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    I believe he was the second one.

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    He had to immediately relinquish the title.

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    So he never got to be a real true IWGP champion.

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    The next champion was Shingo.

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    Right.

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    Right.

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    So Kota Ibushi initially unified the Intercontinental and heavyweight titles to make the world title.

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    And then Ibushi got hurt.

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    And so he dropped the belt to Will Ospreay.

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    Who got hurt.

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    And then Ospreay immediately got hurt and he dropped the belt.

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    He didn't even drop the belt.

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    He vacated the belt.

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    Yeah.

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    He had to vacate.

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    It was Shingo versus Kazuchika Okada.

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    And Shingo beats Okada.

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    He hit him with one of his finishers on the floor.

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    I mean, that was a nasty business.

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    That was I recommend speaking on a rant or on a side note.

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    Y'all got a way to see that match.

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    That was awesome.

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    Yeah.

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    If you got a new Japan world, go watch that match.

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    It's a real good.

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    It gives an idea of what Okada looks like when he's not being booked as invincible.

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    Right.

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    When he's not on the dominant run.

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    Right.

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    Bucky Mama two times says there are compilations of Chris Paul being a habitual ball checker on YouTube.

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    It's hilarious work.

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    Yes.

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    Yes.

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    And fuck you.

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    Mama.

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    Two times.

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    Once.

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    Also said shout out Antoine, my fellow Florida man, brethren.

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    Oh, brother.

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    You were in Florida.

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    I didn't even know that.

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    Yeah.

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    Yeah.

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    Hey, man.

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    You know, the sickos are everywhere, baby.

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    But so so we've got this situation now.

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    Osprey is not happy with Callum Newman again.

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    Right.

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    But Callum Newman isn't just, you know, taking this shit lying down.

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    Right.

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    He calls him.

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    He tells him he wants him to hit Shingo after the entire United Empire come in and start

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    beating the shit out of out of Shingo, except one guy who's not there.

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    But we'll get to that later.

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    They start beating the shit out of Shingo.

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    And then he's like, no, well, you, you hit Shingo and we'll go.

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    No, I'm not going to do it.

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    I'm not going to do it.

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    They're friends.

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    Right.

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    Like, well, and she go or at least respectful rivals, like I said.

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    And then he goes, then he goes, come on.

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    Come on, Death Rider and will like, and then he goes and he hits a hidden blade right

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    in the goddamn face.

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    Shingo Takagi knocks him out.

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    Done.

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    Boom.

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    Then he kind of looks at him like, you happy now?

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    You happy?

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    There are so many layers to where this could go and where it appears this will

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    go.

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    And there's literally so many layers that they could swallow themselves because this

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    is the kind of storytelling I have been waiting for with this partnership.

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    It is storytelling that has been woven together using a group that was started by

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    Will in New Japan when he didn't have any, there was no indication he was coming to America.

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    And to be able to take all of this, tie it together, add AEW, add the internal

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    factions that are all working together.

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    All these machinations is unbelievable.

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    I love trying to keep up with it.

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    Oh, yeah.

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    No, I mean, it's crazy.

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    And I, I wrote this out and it's, it's a mouthful, man.

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    It is a real mouthful.

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    Damien directly is with us.

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    Finally getting to catch the show live.

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    Damien, welcome.

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    Finally.

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    Welcome.

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    Welcome.

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    We are happy to have you here, friend.

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    Thanks for joining us.

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    Thanks for joining us.

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    But listen to this.

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    So this comes with a lot of baggage.

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    The Death Riders are enemies of the United Empire.

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    They just had that big match a couple of weeks back when they came to back

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    Will up, right?

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    Before Dynasty.

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    The Death Riders are also working with the dogs who had a fucking blood

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    feud with the United Empire and ran Will Osprey out of New Japan.

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    Correct.

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    And that ended in the one of the most bloodiest cage matches I've seen

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    New Japan put on.

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    They usually don't put on matches like that.

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    It was wild.

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    It was a very long match as well.

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    Yes, it was probably the best match I've seen the dogs in period.

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    And it also, I believe, resulted in the end of Alex Coughlin as a wrestler.

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    Yeah, he indirectly.

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    I would.

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    Yeah, it did.

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    Pretty much.

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    Let's just keep it simple and kayfabe.

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    They have blamed Osprey and the United Kingdom for this.

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    Okay.

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    So that's plays into it, too.

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    The Death Riders have been friendly and deadly in their relationship with

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    the Calais family.

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    But Andrade El Idolo is the new New Japan Global Heavyweight Champion

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    and a member of the Calais family.

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    How does that work?

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    Because the Calais family.

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    Also what he's a member of United Empire.

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    That's what I'm saying.

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    That's what I'm saying.

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    So Andrade is the money man of the United Empire.

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    But he's also in the Calais family.

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    So now you have all these tethers, all these ties, right?

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    And how they're going to fit together is anybody's guess.

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    But the way this is unfolding, they are not forgetting anything.

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    Not a single piece of it.

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    I love with Dynamite how they had the wherewithal to just sneak in Andrade

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    for a cameo to show his displeasure.

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    Because he's also a member of the United Empire and he's holding gold.

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    Yeah.

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    Why don't you respect me?

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    Right.

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    Why isn't Don respecting him?

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    And they've been alluding to him being pissed off at Don for a while now.

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    Right.

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    Damien directly goes, I agree that War Dogs vs.

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    United Empire feud was the turning point for my opinion of the dogs.

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    You know, as long as they don't have David Finley being called the leader

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    and he's not talking that much.

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    I like the dogs.

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    Yeah.

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    I like the dogs.

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    He just can't speak.

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    He just can't speak.

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    That's all.

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    The guy who's been blowing my mind, honestly, since they've been in AEW is Clark.

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    Like he's looked incredible.

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    Like he's looked really, really good.

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    So that's some crazy shit.

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    So now you've got Callum Newman as the IWGP heavyweight champion.

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    Will is the supposed leader who is not really leading.

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    He's come in and been very deferential to Callum in a lot of ways.

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    Right.

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    Because right.

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    He knows that this is a new United Empire still with some of the same

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    boys.

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    He wins the trio titles with some of his boys that he brought in.

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    He brought in Aaron Hanari.

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    He brought in Great Old Khan.

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    But I like the way that he is recognizing it and sort of deferring to Callum

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    because he knows that Callum is not the leader.

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    Things have changed since she'd been gone, son.

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    He's the champ now.

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    When you notice when they were on Dynamite, Will called Callum his little

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    bro, his little brother.

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    He didn't like that.

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    Callum did not like that.

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    Whatever my qualms with Callum's matches right now, he is doing a good job

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    of acting, I think.

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    And his character work has been very solid.

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    And I think this is what I mean.

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    I mean, so far, this is New Japan's biggest story of the year.

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    Right.

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    Is they have all these intersecting things with United Empire.

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    And I think it's pretty compelling stuff, especially because it's going to be

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    storytelling told through multiple promotions, multiple super shows on

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    multiple continents.

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    You know what I mean?

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    That's pretty awesome.

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    Over multiple months.

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    While said promotion puts on tournaments.

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    Right.

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    Separately.

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    We got the G1 coming up.

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    You know, we've got the Owen coming up.

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    We've got Super Junior.

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    We got that next week.

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    Yeah.

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    That's the Super Junior's is next week.

    449

    00:23:15.410 --> 00:23:20.690

    And not to be outdone, though, on night one, the main event.

    450

    00:23:22.610 --> 00:23:28.110

    Andrade won the Global Heavyweight Championship from Yota Tsuji in a match

    451

    00:23:28.110 --> 00:23:32.770

    that was by far, in my opinion, the match of the nights.

    452

    00:23:33.290 --> 00:23:33.690

    Both nights.

    453

    00:23:33.730 --> 00:23:34.350

    Oh, by far.

    454

    00:23:34.350 --> 00:23:35.230

    Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    455

    00:23:35.270 --> 00:23:36.150

    By far, by far.

    456

    00:23:36.210 --> 00:23:41.970

    So I would tell anybody if you were to watch that pay-per-view that night

    457

    00:23:41.970 --> 00:23:43.130

    one, skip it.

    458

    00:23:43.210 --> 00:23:44.310

    You can watch the main event.

    459

    00:23:44.470 --> 00:23:45.470

    Yeah, basically.

    460

    00:23:45.550 --> 00:23:46.030

    Yeah.

    461

    00:23:46.510 --> 00:23:48.710

    The main event is so good.

    462

    00:23:48.830 --> 00:23:52.150

    It's like a 35, 38 minute match.

    463

    00:23:52.170 --> 00:23:53.210

    Something like that.

    464

    00:23:53.210 --> 00:23:53.810

    It's long.

    465

    00:23:54.430 --> 00:23:57.390

    The finish was so brutal.

    466

    00:23:59.830 --> 00:24:01.750

    My fucking God.

    467

    00:24:02.090 --> 00:24:04.490

    They are up on the top turnbuckle.

    468

    00:24:04.490 --> 00:24:08.530

    It looks for a minute like Yoda is going to superplex Andrade back into the

    469

    00:24:08.530 --> 00:24:15.850

    ring. But Andrade gets the upper hand, grabs Yoda and falls backwards.

    470

    00:24:16.050 --> 00:24:20.590

    Andrade drops from the top to the fucking floor floor.

    471

    00:24:21.310 --> 00:24:24.570

    And Yoda gets DDT on a ring post.

    472

    00:24:24.570 --> 00:24:26.550

    I have never seen that before.

    473

    00:24:26.650 --> 00:24:28.810

    I had never seen that in my entire life.

    474

    00:24:28.810 --> 00:24:29.850

    That was brutal.

    475

    00:24:29.930 --> 00:24:32.750

    It made me go out so many times.

    476

    00:24:33.190 --> 00:24:33.810

    Unbelievable.

    477

    00:24:34.570 --> 00:24:35.530

    Unbelievably cool.

    478

    00:24:36.950 --> 00:24:39.410

    And then Andrade comes back in.

    479

    00:24:39.430 --> 00:24:41.870

    I mean, you could pin Yoda right there, right?

    480

    00:24:42.210 --> 00:24:43.970

    But Andrade has got to finish with his move, right?

    481

    00:24:43.990 --> 00:24:47.290

    So then he hits the DM, which he's been trying to hit that whole match.

    482

    00:24:48.170 --> 00:24:49.670

    And he gets the win.

    483

    00:24:50.350 --> 00:24:52.550

    And Yoda gets helped out of the ring.

    484

    00:24:53.150 --> 00:24:57.170

    And Andrade gets up and he gives a really good speech.

    485

    00:24:57.850 --> 00:25:00.190

    I really enjoyed Andrade's speech.

    486

    00:25:00.190 --> 00:25:07.110

    I think he's just perceived a little bit differently over there just because he

    487

    00:25:07.110 --> 00:25:08.550

    spent a lot of time in New Japan.

    488

    00:25:08.610 --> 00:25:09.830

    Yeah, they know him well.

    489

    00:25:10.310 --> 00:25:11.130

    They know him well.

    490

    00:25:12.050 --> 00:25:22.110

    But there is this humility and this guy is a born baby face right now.

    491

    00:25:22.350 --> 00:25:24.650

    This version of Andrade, this is a baby face.

    492

    00:25:25.550 --> 00:25:26.970

    Everybody likes him too much.

    493

    00:25:27.090 --> 00:25:28.350

    This is the Andrade.

    494

    00:25:28.350 --> 00:25:33.010

    I always, we didn't see this Andrade in the first run.

    495

    00:25:33.050 --> 00:25:34.010

    No, we did not.

    496

    00:25:34.470 --> 00:25:36.250

    I've never seen this Andrade in WWE.

    497

    00:25:36.510 --> 00:25:37.050

    Have you?

    498

    00:25:37.570 --> 00:25:44.210

    No, I saw so much potential in Andrade when he was the NXT champion because he

    499

    00:25:44.210 --> 00:25:49.750

    was having so many great matches with Gargano and Drew McIntyre and all these

    500

    00:25:49.750 --> 00:25:50.330

    different people.

    501

    00:25:50.510 --> 00:25:53.370

    I thought he was so good when he lost the title to Aleister Black.

    502

    00:25:53.610 --> 00:25:55.990

    I thought that was a great few great match.

    503

    00:25:57.230 --> 00:26:00.710

    So I always saw a lot of potential, but the character work was never there.

    504

    00:26:00.730 --> 00:26:02.210

    It was never like this.

    505

    00:26:03.050 --> 00:26:06.890

    He still had Zelina Vega to talk for him.

    506

    00:26:07.850 --> 00:26:14.230

    When he cuts this promo, he is cutting this as a humble, grateful man who is

    507

    00:26:14.230 --> 00:26:17.810

    so honored to have this title and to be the champion.

    508

    00:26:18.290 --> 00:26:24.850

    And he says both New Japan and CMLL and AEW, these companies are in my

    509

    00:26:24.850 --> 00:26:28.970

    blood, you know, and you could tell how much this means to him.

    510

    00:26:29.810 --> 00:26:33.190

    And he says, so whoever, go ahead.

    511

    00:26:34.310 --> 00:26:38.090

    So he says, whoever's in the back who wants to challenge me for this title,

    512

    00:26:38.190 --> 00:26:38.910

    come out here.

    513

    00:26:40.170 --> 00:26:41.290

    And who comes out?

    514

    00:26:41.350 --> 00:26:46.250

    Drilla Maloney comes out and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I want to see this.

    515

    00:26:46.470 --> 00:26:48.770

    And then like him, I do like Drilla.

    516

    00:26:49.250 --> 00:26:53.570

    But then that little shit bag, Shota Umino comes out too.

    517

    00:26:54.110 --> 00:26:56.510

    And Trilla is like, you can't just be jumping in front of the line.

    518

    00:26:56.650 --> 00:26:58.370

    I like, I've been, I was standing here first.

    519

    00:26:59.070 --> 00:27:00.790

    And then they both walked down to the ring together.

    520

    00:27:00.870 --> 00:27:01.750

    Trilla's like piss.

    521

    00:27:01.770 --> 00:27:03.150

    Trilla like, what the hell is this?

    522

    00:27:03.550 --> 00:27:03.910

    Right.

    523

    00:27:04.650 --> 00:27:06.530

    And Andrade says, look, I'll fight you both.

    524

    00:27:06.710 --> 00:27:08.270

    Why don't we do a triple threat for the belt?

    525

    00:27:08.330 --> 00:27:10.630

    You tell me the day, the place, the time I'll be there.

    526

    00:27:10.990 --> 00:27:11.350

    Right.

    527

    00:27:11.650 --> 00:27:13.590

    So, you know, you got that match coming up.

    528

    00:27:14.910 --> 00:27:18.430

    You know, you got Drilla Maloney on the rise in the singles division.

    529

    00:27:18.450 --> 00:27:21.910

    And quite honestly, they should be focusing on him more than Shota right now.

    530

    00:27:23.310 --> 00:27:28.470

    Because Shota's just, I don't know what Shota's got to do, but the fans ain't there yet.

    531

    00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:32.660

    He's just got to find his niche at this point.

    532

    00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:34.060

    He does.

    533

    00:27:37.020 --> 00:27:38.880

    It's he's just not there.

    534

    00:27:39.080 --> 00:27:40.200

    He's just not there yet.

    535

    00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:42.140

    Hey, Justin's in the chat.

    536

    00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:43.120

    What's up, buddy?

    537

    00:27:43.220 --> 00:27:44.680

    Good to have you with us, man.

    538

    00:27:44.800 --> 00:27:46.420

    Good to have you with us.

    539

    00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:51.800

    So with all of this going on, this is the template.

    540

    00:27:51.800 --> 00:27:55.140

    This is the layout with this Osprey and Callum Newman thing, right?

    541

    00:27:55.260 --> 00:28:00.160

    Where is Osprey going to end up challenging for the IWGP World Heavyweight title?

    542

    00:28:01.040 --> 00:28:06.300

    Is Osprey going to be challenging for the AEW World Heavyweight title at All In?

    543

    00:28:06.500 --> 00:28:11.060

    People almost feel like that has a certainty, right?

    544

    00:28:11.100 --> 00:28:15.360

    Because he's healthy and he's back and they're doing a lot of storytelling with him.

    545

    00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:17.420

    I got a couple of questions for you.

    546

    00:28:17.420 --> 00:28:18.020

    One.

    547

    00:28:18.300 --> 00:28:19.340

    Am I healthy?

    548

    00:28:19.580 --> 00:28:21.920

    Let's let's say healthy enough.

    549

    00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.700

    In case in case he's semi healthy, I think he's doing all right.

    550

    00:28:26.260 --> 00:28:36.580

    But when did you ever expect Will Osprey to be this layered of a guy who's telling stories like this when he was in Japan?

    551

    00:28:37.280 --> 00:28:47.580

    Will, the one knock that Will had on him in Japan was that he was all flash and no substance.

    552

    00:28:48.220 --> 00:28:50.800

    It was the one thing that always used to frustrate me.

    553

    00:28:50.940 --> 00:28:52.540

    He could fly all over that ring.

    554

    00:28:52.860 --> 00:28:57.140

    He could do stuff you would never believe unless you saw it with your own two eyes.

    555

    00:28:57.560 --> 00:29:01.260

    But his mic work was horrible.

    556

    00:29:03.080 --> 00:29:08.700

    His ability to have extended long matches was not very good.

    557

    00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:15.620

    And I wouldn't say he got a reputation for hurting people, but he did hurt people.

    558

    00:29:15.740 --> 00:29:18.660

    And I know it hurt him that he hurt people.

    559

    00:29:18.660 --> 00:29:41.560

    And to see this layered of a Will so emotional that he is willing to face his own fact that he doesn't have the killer instinct he needs to be the champion of either AEW or New Japan at this point has been a revelation.

    560

    00:29:42.540 --> 00:29:47.540

    Tony Khan and everybody, Triple H, Triple K.

    561

    00:29:48.080 --> 00:29:49.700

    That's what I feel like calling him.

    562

    00:29:51.140 --> 00:29:58.060

    Once had a damn he actually thought this guy couldn't talk.

    563

    00:29:59.420 --> 00:30:03.360

    All he had to do was be given the chance to and the right person to do it.

    564

    00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:08.220

    This guy had watched a shit ton of American wrestling when he was a kid.

    565

    00:30:08.220 --> 00:30:15.820

    You can tell he did because he was so ready for it from the second that he got there.

    566

    00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:17.820

    He was so ready for it.

    567

    00:30:17.980 --> 00:30:22.280

    You know, he knew how to speak to the camera to an American audience.

    568

    00:30:22.520 --> 00:30:25.140

    He just he just inherently got it.

    569

    00:30:25.140 --> 00:30:26.580

    You know, he was eager.

    570

    00:30:27.300 --> 00:30:29.960

    We got some so we got some spicy shit.

    571

    00:30:32.300 --> 00:30:33.740

    It's gonna make you mad.

    572

    00:30:33.740 --> 00:30:36.280

    Osprey wins the IWGP title.

    573

    00:30:36.580 --> 00:30:38.000

    Kenny was a W title.

    574

    00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:39.520

    All in title versus title.

    575

    00:30:41.860 --> 00:30:43.200

    That's from blurry line.

    576

    00:30:43.940 --> 00:30:45.040

    I love y'all.

    577

    00:30:45.860 --> 00:30:46.460

    Okay.

    578

    00:30:47.120 --> 00:30:48.280

    All right.

    579

    00:30:48.420 --> 00:30:49.280

    That's it.

    580

    00:30:49.320 --> 00:30:49.980

    That's it.

    581

    00:30:50.420 --> 00:30:51.260

    I'm gonna let them.

    582

    00:30:51.260 --> 00:30:53.080

    I'm just I'm gonna let be.

    583

    00:30:53.740 --> 00:30:54.620

    No, I can't.

    584

    00:30:54.700 --> 00:30:56.000

    This is not happening.

    585

    00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:58.080

    No, it is not.

    586

    00:30:59.700 --> 00:31:02.980

    It will not be all in title versus title.

    587

    00:31:02.980 --> 00:31:11.240

    The I don't think I don't think there is a problem with the other parts happening.

    588

    00:31:11.820 --> 00:31:13.140

    But title versus title.

    589

    00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:14.720

    Not in a million years.

    590

    00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:17.700

    No.

    591

    00:31:18.060 --> 00:31:18.600

    All right.

    592

    00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:19.420

    All right.

    593

    00:31:20.540 --> 00:31:25.600

    Blurry lines continues the struggles of COVID and difficulty traveling ended up being amazing for Will.

    594

    00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:29.800

    He had genuine hardship that he didn't need to act to cut a promo about.

    595

    00:31:29.860 --> 00:31:31.460

    He could just be honest and be himself.

    596

    00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:32.560

    Good point.

    597

    00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:33.740

    That's a good point.

    598

    00:31:33.740 --> 00:31:39.160

    That is that is very true because that was around the time that the United Empire started form.

    599

    00:31:39.380 --> 00:31:44.940

    And he was with B priestly at a time and you know who he's with now.

    600

    00:31:45.840 --> 00:31:50.960

    And that time helped him more than it actually hurt him.

    601

    00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:51.280

    Yeah.

    602

    00:31:51.660 --> 00:31:52.580

    In a lot of ways.

    603

    00:31:52.980 --> 00:31:53.420

    Yeah.

    604

    00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:54.980

    Blurry line continues.

    605

    00:31:55.040 --> 00:31:58.340

    And it got people to think of him as a fully grown man, not just a flippy kid.

    606

    00:31:58.820 --> 00:31:59.280

    Absolutely.

    607

    00:32:00.060 --> 00:32:00.580

    Absolutely.

    608

    00:32:00.580 --> 00:32:05.120

    I remember when Will came back and he wrestled Kota Ibushi for the Never title.

    609

    00:32:05.760 --> 00:32:08.780

    And it was the first time I ever saw him do the hidden blade.

    610

    00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:09.960

    Yes.

    611

    00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.700

    And he gave Kota a concussion in that match.

    612

    00:32:13.080 --> 00:32:15.240

    He can cuss the living shit out of Kota Ibushi.

    613

    00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:21.160

    And then they showed Kota, you know, nowadays when you get a concussion, they don't fucking put the camera on you.

    614

    00:32:21.280 --> 00:32:22.700

    But they put the camera right on Kota.

    615

    00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.780

    And he literally was lying on the mat doing this.

    616

    00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:27.520

    Like he looked terrible.

    617

    00:32:27.820 --> 00:32:28.880

    It looked bad.

    618

    00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:29.720

    It was scary.

    619

    00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.200

    But Kota was knocked off.

    620

    00:32:32.500 --> 00:32:32.800

    Fuck out.

    621

    00:32:33.740 --> 00:32:35.740

    And Will won the Never open weight title.

    622

    00:32:36.740 --> 00:32:38.540

    But Will had put on a lot of muscle.

    623

    00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:42.800

    And I remember thinking like, oh, this is somebody else.

    624

    00:32:42.840 --> 00:32:44.780

    Now this is this is interesting.

    625

    00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:46.340

    Very interesting.

    626

    00:32:47.740 --> 00:32:52.620

    Justin said when Will was henshin himself up, he was also working more on his in ring and promos.

    627

    00:32:52.660 --> 00:32:53.520

    100 percent.

    628

    00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:55.880

    Yes, I absolutely agree.

    629

    00:32:56.220 --> 00:32:56.620

    Yeah.

    630

    00:32:56.620 --> 00:33:00.080

    And this was around the time when Will was healing it up with United Empire.

    631

    00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:11.360

    And that's the part that a lot of people forget that Will was a heel in the United Empire started as heels because he turned on Okada and left chaos.

    632

    00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:16.680

    That's that's why I remember him saying fuck you to like Okada.

    633

    00:33:16.740 --> 00:33:19.260

    Like he just you say how much he hated him.

    634

    00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:21.620

    And Jesus Christ, it was bad.

    635

    00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:26.720

    Also, he's not said the C word yet on American TV, which is amazing.

    636

    00:33:27.100 --> 00:33:29.260

    For Will, especially that is genuine.

    637

    00:33:29.700 --> 00:33:30.740

    That is true.

    638

    00:33:31.980 --> 00:33:32.500

    Yeah.

    639

    00:33:32.780 --> 00:33:34.240

    I'm surprised he hasn't.

    640

    00:33:34.340 --> 00:33:36.360

    The brother can be trusted with a live mic.

    641

    00:33:36.540 --> 00:33:38.680

    I think him and Tecla are the biggest risks.

    642

    00:33:39.140 --> 00:33:41.640

    And they're both the best jobs.

    643

    00:33:41.760 --> 00:33:45.640

    And they're they're both killing it on promos each and every time they get a mic.

    644

    00:33:46.340 --> 00:33:48.580

    Like Tecla hasn't had a stinker promo yet.

    645

    00:33:48.580 --> 00:33:49.740

    I mean, she's just been.

    646

    00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:53.920

    Holy shit.

    647

    00:33:54.120 --> 00:33:55.620

    Tecla is her.

    648

    00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.060

    And when he had a match versus Marifuji and Noah.

    649

    00:34:00.320 --> 00:34:01.060

    Yeah, that's right.

    650

    00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:01.860

    That's right.

    651

    00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:03.400

    Justin continues.

    652

    00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:06.880

    Very apparent that he was perfecting his craft and paid off after he became all elite.

    653

    00:34:06.900 --> 00:34:07.580

    100 percent.

    654

    00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:12.380

    And him betraying Okada was a risk NJPW took.

    655

    00:34:12.380 --> 00:34:13.960

    And I'm glad they made a story out of it.

    656

    00:34:13.980 --> 00:34:14.280

    Yep.

    657

    00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.360

    That was a big major risk.

    658

    00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:18.840

    That really truly was.

    659

    00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:21.820

    They were both beloved so much.

    660

    00:34:22.080 --> 00:34:24.580

    Did you really want to split your fan base that bad?

    661

    00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:34.659

    And for Will to buy into it and accept it and to not have a problem with being hated.

    662

    00:34:35.100 --> 00:34:36.739

    Made that work.

    663

    00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:44.460

    I think Will recognized that for him to truly become his own entity as a wrestler.

    664

    00:34:44.460 --> 00:34:47.620

    He had to get out from under Okada and he did.

    665

    00:34:48.520 --> 00:34:55.100

    And it changed everything, you know, and and yeah, and he wasn't even a heel very long.

    666

    00:34:55.219 --> 00:34:56.480

    You know, it's funny.

    667

    00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:00.460

    Ospreys had like a couple very brief heel turns in New Japan.

    668

    00:35:00.700 --> 00:35:03.820

    Remember when he turned heel on Hiromu?

    669

    00:35:05.220 --> 00:35:06.220

    I do.

    670

    00:35:06.620 --> 00:35:08.840

    And he started dying his hair black and shit.

    671

    00:35:09.300 --> 00:35:13.520

    And at first he was so happy that Hiromu was back and then he turned heel on him.

    672

    00:35:13.520 --> 00:35:18.040

    And and then Hiromu, because Hiromu had come back from the neck injury.

    673

    00:35:21.680 --> 00:35:28.380

    And Hiromu, rest in peace friend, leaving the wrestling business to go to the land of.

    674

    00:35:29.060 --> 00:35:31.020

    I don't want to talk about that.

    675

    00:35:31.680 --> 00:35:43.500

    But I do want to say the one time that Will was absolutely effective as a heel was when he absolutely I didn't see it coming.

    676

    00:35:43.500 --> 00:35:46.500

    When he absolutely dropped the priestly like that.

    677

    00:35:46.500 --> 00:35:47.800

    Oh, that's right.

    678

    00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:49.400

    I totally forgot.

    679

    00:35:49.980 --> 00:35:51.060

    I forgot.

    680

    00:35:51.680 --> 00:35:52.740

    He lost saying he punt.

    681

    00:35:52.940 --> 00:35:54.420

    They punished her.

    682

    00:35:54.600 --> 00:35:55.140

    Mm hmm.

    683

    00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:56.120

    Yeah.

    684

    00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:57.360

    Yeah, totally.

    685

    00:35:58.960 --> 00:35:59.480

    Blair's line.

    686

    00:35:59.540 --> 00:36:05.080

    It's a shame that he had all that potential but couldn't cut in the big leagues and had to settle for the minor league part timer schedule.

    687

    00:36:07.180 --> 00:36:10.540

    And people wonder why Okada is a heel in AEW.

    688

    00:36:10.540 --> 00:36:10.800

    LOL.

    689

    00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:12.300

    He's tired of betrayals.

    690

    00:36:12.300 --> 00:36:13.560

    I mean, fair enough.

    691

    00:36:14.640 --> 00:36:15.560

    Fair enough.

    692

    00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.440

    Call a call a motherfucker a cat one too many times.

    693

    00:36:19.780 --> 00:36:20.340

    Yes.

    694

    00:36:20.580 --> 00:36:20.860

    Yes.

    695

    00:36:21.160 --> 00:36:21.720

    No.

    696

    00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:22.680

    Okada, man.

    697

    00:36:23.720 --> 00:36:26.400

    There's some interesting stuff going on with Okada right now, too.

    698

    00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:27.540

    But we'll get into that.

    699

    00:36:28.740 --> 00:36:36.720

    But needless to say, there is so much going on just really kind of wrapped around Will Ospreay right now.

    700

    00:36:36.720 --> 00:36:38.760

    And the United Empire and the United.

    701

    00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:41.580

    The United Empire feel bigger than they've ever felt.

    702

    00:36:41.580 --> 00:36:42.960

    Right this minute.

    703

    00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:43.800

    Yes.

    704

    00:36:44.140 --> 00:36:49.700

    I got heated up so fast, you know, with Will coming back and Andrade being added.

    705

    00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:52.600

    And here's the thing.

    706

    00:36:52.860 --> 00:37:00.100

    Hinnari was out for at least, Justin may know the exact amount of time, but I'd say about a year he was out.

    707

    00:37:00.120 --> 00:37:02.800

    So you got him back fresh, the muscle.

    708

    00:37:03.100 --> 00:37:06.060

    And you bring everybody back the way that they are.

    709

    00:37:06.060 --> 00:37:13.220

    And Callum to see the transformation of Callum moving over the past, what, year and a half, two years.

    710

    00:37:13.220 --> 00:37:14.600

    He was tiny.

    711

    00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:15.720

    I'm sorry.

    712

    00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:21.800

    He did earn that nickname little brother from Will Ospreay and see him now.

    713

    00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:23.560

    He's filled out the boys.

    714

    00:37:24.600 --> 00:37:25.140

    Thick boy.

    715

    00:37:25.600 --> 00:37:26.340

    He's a big boy.

    716

    00:37:26.900 --> 00:37:27.280

    Yeah.

    717

    00:37:27.380 --> 00:37:28.440

    It's a muscle on.

    718

    00:37:28.660 --> 00:37:29.740

    He looks great.

    719

    00:37:30.680 --> 00:37:33.760

    And when I heard he won the title, I hadn't seen him for a while.

    720

    00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:38.860

    So, like, when I saw him, I was like, Whoa, that is a very different dude than the guy I thought I was going to see.

    721

    00:37:39.640 --> 00:37:40.040

    Yeah.

    722

    00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:43.820

    Prince that used to run the roads back and forth, back and forth, like crazy.

    723

    00:37:44.060 --> 00:37:44.460

    Yeah.

    724

    00:37:46.700 --> 00:37:48.940

    Still don't like.

    725

    00:37:52.370 --> 00:37:54.730

    I still got some smoke for you, Callum.

    726

    00:37:56.890 --> 00:37:57.690

    But yeah.

    727

    00:37:57.690 --> 00:38:00.050

    So, like, like I said, wrestling is a global language.

    728

    00:38:00.050 --> 00:38:15.150

    It's so amazing to have somebody like Tony Khan with the resources that he has alongside Tana Hashi in New Japan, alongside Okada in Stardom and Salvador Luterov in CMLL, who've already been doing this for decades.

    729

    00:38:15.670 --> 00:38:15.730

    Right.

    730

    00:38:16.150 --> 00:38:16.750

    Yes.

    731

    00:38:16.750 --> 00:38:27.530

    And for everybody, the thing that I love about the partnership, even more so, is the insertion of AEW.

    732

    00:38:28.510 --> 00:38:45.130

    But also the fact that Tony loves this sport so much and he's clearly influenced by the Japanese wrestling even more so that they're able to work together for the good of all three, not just one.

    733

    00:38:45.810 --> 00:38:47.530

    Nobody's a puppet in this.

    734

    00:38:47.570 --> 00:38:49.670

    Nobody's bought anybody out.

    735

    00:38:49.930 --> 00:38:54.330

    These are all three separate companies who have to agree.

    736

    00:38:54.630 --> 00:38:57.010

    AEW is not the big brother here.

    737

    00:38:57.390 --> 00:38:59.150

    And then we got a little brother situation.

    738

    00:38:59.350 --> 00:39:00.470

    This is a partnership.

    739

    00:39:01.330 --> 00:39:05.990

    Well, and this is Tony's the best kind of rich kid.

    740

    00:39:06.290 --> 00:39:06.590

    Right.

    741

    00:39:06.590 --> 00:39:14.930

    Where he can, like, sign somebody to a dual contract so that he can help you retain talent that you need and keep them.

    742

    00:39:14.930 --> 00:39:15.890

    Tony, when I was a kid.

    743

    00:39:16.190 --> 00:39:16.750

    Yeah, exactly.

    744

    00:39:16.890 --> 00:39:17.470

    No shit.

    745

    00:39:17.970 --> 00:39:25.650

    But Tony can keep CMLL from getting poached, you know, so Mystico isn't going anywhere.

    746

    00:39:26.210 --> 00:39:28.210

    And Persephone is under contract.

    747

    00:39:29.270 --> 00:39:33.290

    And, you know, Mascara Dorado is in Stardom.

    748

    00:39:33.390 --> 00:39:33.910

    Right.

    749

    00:39:34.190 --> 00:39:34.610

    Right.

    750

    00:39:34.610 --> 00:39:39.590

    And so you've got people who are going to stay in the system.

    751

    00:39:40.190 --> 00:39:47.450

    And even when Tony has signed people away, like Will Ospreay or Okada, those guys were leaving one way or the other.

    752

    00:39:47.670 --> 00:39:48.670

    They had to.

    753

    00:39:48.890 --> 00:39:50.370

    They had to go after the big bag.

    754

    00:39:50.550 --> 00:39:50.950

    Right.

    755

    00:39:51.210 --> 00:39:51.690

    Yes.

    756

    00:39:52.010 --> 00:39:52.970

    They'd be stupid.

    757

    00:39:53.330 --> 00:39:55.190

    Especially Okada at his stage in his career.

    758

    00:39:55.230 --> 00:39:55.910

    He's what?

    759

    00:39:56.110 --> 00:39:57.190

    In his mid 30s.

    760

    00:39:57.310 --> 00:40:00.630

    He's done everything literally in New Japan.

    761

    00:40:00.670 --> 00:40:01.670

    What do you want to be?

    762

    00:40:01.670 --> 00:40:10.150

    And who just sold out the Tokyo Dome with Hiroshi Tanahashi, Kazuchika Okada.

    763

    00:40:12.120 --> 00:40:18.160

    So Tony has been pretty fair with the way that he's he's retained a lot of that talent.

    764

    00:40:18.220 --> 00:40:20.080

    They were going to lose one way or the other.

    765

    00:40:20.220 --> 00:40:20.440

    Right.

    766

    00:40:20.660 --> 00:40:21.040

    Yes.

    767

    00:40:21.160 --> 00:40:23.460

    And then he's let them use that talent again.

    768

    00:40:23.620 --> 00:40:26.340

    So, like, it's not a bad deal.

    769

    00:40:26.660 --> 00:40:29.400

    All things considered, it's still less than ideal.

    770

    00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:34.380

    I wish New Japan had the payroll to just pay these people what they wanted.

    771

    00:40:34.700 --> 00:40:35.180

    Right.

    772

    00:40:35.860 --> 00:40:36.660

    But you're right.

    773

    00:40:36.740 --> 00:40:41.680

    Okada, like, even if they did, he would still be the same guy.

    774

    00:40:42.080 --> 00:40:43.040

    He'd still be the same guy.

    775

    00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:52.520

    Even if they paid him what he was worth, it still wouldn't have been enough, I think, at that stage in his career to prevent him from coming to America.

    776

    00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:57.720

    And I'm just glad AW was here to get him, not the other place.

    777

    00:40:57.740 --> 00:40:58.460

    Oh, my God.

    778

    00:40:58.460 --> 00:40:58.960

    Yeah.

    779

    00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:04.340

    Yes, it was always going to happen.

    780

    00:41:04.420 --> 00:41:07.480

    I wish New Japan would get it.

    781

    00:41:07.500 --> 00:41:08.740

    I think they are.

    782

    00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:11.460

    I think it's going to start turning around.

    783

    00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:12.960

    There was a big turnout for downtown.

    784

    00:41:13.380 --> 00:41:19.560

    The wrestling has been really good this year, even though night one, I say you can skip to the last.

    785

    00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:21.480

    The show is not a bad show.

    786

    00:41:21.520 --> 00:41:23.560

    No, no, it's tag heavy.

    787

    00:41:23.740 --> 00:41:27.100

    And there's a few featured matches or whatever.

    788

    00:41:27.100 --> 00:41:27.520

    Yeah.

    789

    00:41:27.580 --> 00:41:33.320

    But I'd be like, it's something I throw on a Sunday afternoon and halfway watch.

    790

    00:41:34.060 --> 00:41:52.940

    But I feel like with the inclusion of stardom and with the improvement in the wrestlers that they have in their own company,

    791

    00:41:52.940 --> 00:42:04.000

    not the dual contractors, that it's going to not only increase profits locally, it's going to increase the revenue of Forbidden Door,

    792

    00:42:04.340 --> 00:42:08.800

    which increases the revenue for what New Japan receives from that.

    793

    00:42:09.120 --> 00:42:16.120

    Well, and I think that if you look at the partnership with CMLL, particularly this last year,

    794

    00:42:16.120 --> 00:42:24.480

    I've watched more Lucha in this last year than I had ever watched before in my life because I had a good idea of what their roster was.

    795

    00:42:24.780 --> 00:42:30.560

    Right. I kind of usually only watch Fantastica Mania, New Japan and CMLL.

    796

    00:42:30.660 --> 00:42:35.900

    But that's the only time I admit it and I am being better about it.

    797

    00:42:35.940 --> 00:42:38.020

    Hey, we only got so much time.

    798

    00:42:38.060 --> 00:42:39.500

    Watch wrestling when you can.

    799

    00:42:39.540 --> 00:42:41.360

    Right. That's the most I can ask of you.

    800

    00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:44.860

    Right. Even if you only watch AEW, just watch something.

    801

    00:42:45.640 --> 00:42:53.260

    But what I would say is like New Japan is going to have that same effect if they are able to work more with AEW.

    802

    00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:57.400

    AEW is a proven winner when it comes to bringing new eyes to people's product.

    803

    00:42:59.080 --> 00:43:03.460

    And anytime the AEW people are announced for a CMLL show, the show sells out.

    804

    00:43:04.300 --> 00:43:08.360

    And they're getting to that point where they can actually claim that now.

    805

    00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.080

    So when Takeshita is on a show, I think they sell more tickets.

    806

    00:43:15.700 --> 00:43:18.500

    Certainly when Okada is on a show, they sell more tickets.

    807

    00:43:19.080 --> 00:43:21.420

    Yes, I think Okada is the outlier.

    808

    00:43:22.020 --> 00:43:27.480

    Takeshita, I kind of felt for a little bit, it definitely was half and half.

    809

    00:43:29.660 --> 00:43:33.600

    And you have to ingratiate yourself in the right type of way.

    810

    00:43:33.620 --> 00:43:38.920

    And I think that he has and Don Taku kind of proved it.

    811

    00:43:39.080 --> 00:43:41.100

    He's definitely going in a new direction.

    812

    00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:44.780

    He's baby facing all the way.

    813

    00:43:45.140 --> 00:43:47.540

    He is absolutely baby facing all the way.

    814

    00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:51.020

    And they're going to reap the rewards of this.

    815

    00:43:51.180 --> 00:43:53.180

    It's just taking a long damn time.

    816

    00:43:53.740 --> 00:43:56.000

    Yeah, yeah. So that was the other thing I was going to talk about.

    817

    00:43:56.140 --> 00:44:03.460

    So with the other foreign stars, you know, you have Bolton Oleg, who's like very good, fantastic wrestler.

    818

    00:44:03.720 --> 00:44:05.000

    Very good, big man.

    819

    00:44:05.340 --> 00:44:05.900

    I really enjoy him.

    820

    00:44:06.200 --> 00:44:09.280

    The only wrestler from Kazakhstan.

    821

    00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.260

    The only wrestler from Kazakhstan, which is kind of his gimmick.

    822

    00:44:12.260 --> 00:44:14.540

    He's like, I'm from Kazakhstan and I'm very large.

    823

    00:44:14.980 --> 00:44:19.940

    I would love to hear him do an interview or something, even if it needed to be translated or whatever.

    824

    00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:23.460

    Just so you have a better idea of who he is.

    825

    00:44:24.060 --> 00:44:26.380

    Yes, he speaks perfect Spanish.

    826

    00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:29.560

    He speaks perfect Japanese in the backstage interviews.

    827

    00:44:29.720 --> 00:44:34.860

    I've never heard him speak his native language or English, but just Japanese.

    828

    00:44:34.860 --> 00:44:38.720

    Yeah, yeah, but I've been very impressed by him.

    829

    00:44:39.700 --> 00:44:50.880

    So but the foreign talent is somewhat lacking when you have to have Chase Owens as your opponent for a pay-per-view against Kanosuke to catch the chase.

    830

    00:44:51.040 --> 00:45:01.200

    I can see that as a tag team match, maybe or maybe even let's go with no, I can't.

    831

    00:45:01.200 --> 00:45:05.580

    No, no, that was not.

    832

    00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:12.940

    I love Chase and it's no disrespect to the chase and his longevity.

    833

    00:45:13.420 --> 00:45:18.520

    He's the only one who saw all the errors of the Bullet Club or one of the only ones.

    834

    00:45:20.140 --> 00:45:22.480

    But Kanosuke to catch the dessert better.

    835

    00:45:23.200 --> 00:45:25.960

    Yeah, he needs he needs a better opponent than Chase Owens.

    836

    00:45:25.980 --> 00:45:26.480

    I'm sorry.

    837

    00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:32.200

    It's just, you know, you got I think Justin just said exactly what we're all thinking.

    838

    00:45:32.220 --> 00:45:33.580

    I didn't want to say.

    839

    00:45:33.580 --> 00:45:34.640

    Uh huh.

    840

    00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:35.480

    Uh huh.

    841

    00:45:36.460 --> 00:45:38.620

    Justice says Chase should just go.

    842

    00:45:38.640 --> 00:45:43.940

    Larry Lyons says Chase Owens continued employment as a marvel of modern wrestling, modern wrestling.

    843

    00:45:44.300 --> 00:45:47.380

    And oh, gosh, the other one.

    844

    00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:48.100

    Oh, yeah.

    845

    00:45:48.100 --> 00:45:49.440

    I can't move.

    846

    00:45:49.500 --> 00:45:50.780

    I don't even move anymore.

    847

    00:45:51.640 --> 00:45:52.160

    Yeah.

    848

    00:45:52.160 --> 00:45:52.840

    Oh, God.

    849

    00:45:53.220 --> 00:45:53.880

    You draw.

    850

    00:45:54.060 --> 00:45:55.160

    Oh, you draw.

    851

    00:45:55.340 --> 00:45:56.280

    All right.

    852

    00:45:56.720 --> 00:45:59.660

    That dude is literally one of the worst wrestlers I've ever seen.

    853

    00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:01.020

    He just sucks.

    854

    00:46:01.940 --> 00:46:07.280

    And I remember he was in a G1 years ago because they were really scraping the bottom

    855

    00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:08.840

    of the barrel during COVID.

    856

    00:46:10.220 --> 00:46:12.380

    And he had a match with Shingo.

    857

    00:46:12.900 --> 00:46:19.260

    And I remember I noticed Shingo had to slow everything he does down.

    858

    00:46:21.720 --> 00:46:25.520

    So that Takahashi knew where to be and knew how to take it.

    859

    00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:31.460

    Like, yes, I know exactly what you mean because I might have to disagree with you a little

    860

    00:46:31.460 --> 00:46:37.260

    bit on the pandemic thing just because the pandemic actually strengthened my love

    861

    00:46:37.260 --> 00:46:38.480

    for New Japan.

    862

    00:46:40.260 --> 00:46:45.420

    Because of that reason, they scraped the barrel and had to and still somehow made

    863

    00:46:45.420 --> 00:46:45.900

    it work.

    864

    00:46:46.040 --> 00:46:46.380

    Yeah.

    865

    00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:48.840

    Well, they I mean, they had good good things.

    866

    00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:52.900

    It was that G1 where it was like four brackets or four.

    867

    00:46:53.200 --> 00:46:53.700

    Yes.

    868

    00:46:53.780 --> 00:46:54.500

    Four brackets.

    869

    00:46:54.700 --> 00:46:56.980

    It was it was kind of a messy G1 that year.

    870

    00:46:57.180 --> 00:47:03.760

    And so and and yeah, Yuzuru just that man belongs nowhere near a G1.

    871

    00:47:04.060 --> 00:47:07.700

    I mean, it's like watching the Brooklyn Brawler in a G1.

    872

    00:47:07.860 --> 00:47:09.480

    Like he just it doesn't.

    873

    00:47:10.740 --> 00:47:13.700

    In fairness, he's probably a better wrestler in the Brooklyn Brawler.

    874

    00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:17.140

    Definitely a little bit better, a little bit better.

    875

    00:47:17.140 --> 00:47:19.360

    You heard it here first, folks.

    876

    00:47:19.560 --> 00:47:24.440

    Yuzuru Takahashi is definitely a little bit better than the Brooklyn Brawler.

    877

    00:47:24.460 --> 00:47:24.920

    Yes.

    878

    00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:33.480

    Justin says, only thing we need for TK is to formalize TJPW DDT partnership as

    879

    00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:33.840

    well.

    880

    00:47:34.140 --> 00:47:38.280

    They've collaborated collaborating so many times that I'm surprised that no former

    881

    00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:41.120

    partners, no formal partnership has been established.

    882

    00:47:41.680 --> 00:47:42.280

    Agreed.

    883

    00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.400

    Because they have they have worked together.

    884

    00:47:45.200 --> 00:47:46.300

    I agree.

    885

    00:47:46.300 --> 00:47:50.440

    I would love to see check no conflicts with the other JP promotions, too.

    886

    00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:51.500

    So that's even better.

    887

    00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.400

    I would love to see Tokyo Joshi Pro thrown in.

    888

    00:47:55.540 --> 00:48:00.620

    To be honest for me, if I could pick any one of the other ones, it would be Marigold.

    889

    00:48:01.500 --> 00:48:01.980

    Yeah.

    890

    00:48:02.080 --> 00:48:07.340

    But I think they did let go Tommy Hayashi stuff, and I might have to change my mind

    891

    00:48:07.340 --> 00:48:07.780

    on that.

    892

    00:48:07.860 --> 00:48:08.340

    Yeah.

    893

    00:48:08.340 --> 00:48:12.360

    Well, and I think Rossi is going to make that impossible.

    894

    00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:17.680

    I don't think I don't think anybody wants to work with Rossi.

    895

    00:48:17.780 --> 00:48:22.220

    And even the other Japanese promotions don't really want to work with Rossi.

    896

    00:48:22.220 --> 00:48:23.660

    He can stay in the bag.

    897

    00:48:24.020 --> 00:48:24.500

    Yeah.

    898

    00:48:25.040 --> 00:48:26.660

    He needs to go the fuck away.

    899

    00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:28.340

    Retire old hat man.

    900

    00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:29.400

    Retire.

    901

    00:48:29.780 --> 00:48:30.800

    Women suffer.

    902

    00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:34.520

    It truly felt like they'd kind of pushed Okada to be old before his time.

    903

    00:48:34.520 --> 00:48:35.780

    It did in New Japan.

    904

    00:48:35.780 --> 00:48:37.800

    It did because he had done everything.

    905

    00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:39.760

    It wasn't that he was actually old.

    906

    00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:41.180

    It was just that like.

    907

    00:48:41.180 --> 00:48:42.040

    Yeah.

    908

    00:48:42.420 --> 00:48:45.340

    He can't just be the guy forever.

    909

    00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:50.180

    When he came from TNA back to Japan and started, what was he?

    910

    00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:54.620

    19, 20, 21, 20 something.

    911

    00:48:54.700 --> 00:48:55.520

    He was young.

    912

    00:48:56.100 --> 00:48:57.500

    He won the world title.

    913

    00:48:57.680 --> 00:48:59.500

    He had to have been older than Callum.

    914

    00:48:59.780 --> 00:49:00.560

    Callum's 23.

    915

    00:49:00.600 --> 00:49:00.900

    Yeah.

    916

    00:49:00.900 --> 00:49:01.120

    He was.

    917

    00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:03.300

    He was definitely older than Callum.

    918

    00:49:03.930 --> 00:49:04.700

    24, 25.

    919

    00:49:05.080 --> 00:49:05.520

    Yeah.

    920

    00:49:05.740 --> 00:49:06.320

    Yeah.

    921

    00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:13.140

    So I don't want to say oversaturation, but it was oversaturation though.

    922

    00:49:13.140 --> 00:49:13.960

    It was.

    923

    00:49:14.180 --> 00:49:15.480

    And it's not Okada's fault.

    924

    00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.800

    It's like he just kept getting pushed as the unbeatable guy.

    925

    00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:23.500

    And that gets old after a while.

    926

    00:49:23.500 --> 00:49:29.460

    Wrestling is about time and timing, you know, and Hiroshi Tanahashi kind of,

    927

    00:49:29.460 --> 00:49:34.260

    in my opinion, actually got pushed down the card a little before that you had to.

    928

    00:49:34.260 --> 00:49:38.220

    And that's not a bad thing.

    929

    00:49:39.180 --> 00:49:43.760

    That's not a bad thing necessarily because you never got sick of him being the top guy.

    930

    00:49:45.540 --> 00:49:48.360

    But Okada like took his job from him.

    931

    00:49:48.500 --> 00:49:51.880

    Basically, you know, like on his first day.

    932

    00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:52.160

    Yeah.

    933

    00:49:52.160 --> 00:49:53.100

    On his first day.

    934

    00:49:53.140 --> 00:49:53.300

    Yeah.

    935

    00:49:53.300 --> 00:49:57.920

    New kid walks in the office, shoves his nuts in your face and dances for you.

    936

    00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:01.440

    And then you have to sniff them every day for the rest of your life.

    937

    00:50:01.740 --> 00:50:02.120

    Right.

    938

    00:50:02.120 --> 00:50:03.340

    There's no happy ending there.

    939

    00:50:03.340 --> 00:50:04.040

    There's no happy ending.

    940

    00:50:05.500 --> 00:50:06.160

    No revenge.

    941

    00:50:06.500 --> 00:50:07.860

    That works on so many levels.

    942

    00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:14.820

    Blarry Line, like he had that last New Japan run where he was just kind of this embittered vet who smashed up the Alliance.

    943

    00:50:15.680 --> 00:50:16.500

    You know what, Joe?

    944

    00:50:16.620 --> 00:50:17.540

    You know what, Blarry Line?

    945

    00:50:17.700 --> 00:50:21.120

    I will absolutely agree with you 100%.

    946

    00:50:21.740 --> 00:50:28.040

    That's a great astute observation because he was a surly asshole that last year.

    947

    00:50:28.260 --> 00:50:29.680

    But I kind of liked it.

    948

    00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:35.400

    Because it wasn't it wasn't normally what he was.

    949

    00:50:35.980 --> 00:50:40.460

    And you could tell that all these young people coming in were just pissing them off.

    950

    00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:41.240

    Yeah.

    951

    00:50:41.640 --> 00:50:43.800

    And it was time for him to go.

    952

    00:50:43.860 --> 00:50:49.620

    But I'm glad he's kind of brought some of that over to AEW and kept the heel.

    953

    00:50:49.940 --> 00:50:50.600

    Mm hmm.

    954

    00:50:50.860 --> 00:50:51.740

    Mm hmm.

    955

    00:50:52.220 --> 00:50:53.800

    Jumping ahead in the chat a little bit.

    956

    00:50:53.940 --> 00:50:57.620

    Justin says, I will never forgive House of Torture for what they did to Son of Strong Style.

    957

    00:50:57.620 --> 00:50:59.600

    Ren Narita agreed.

    958

    00:51:00.040 --> 00:51:01.220

    Rest in power, Ren.

    959

    00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:02.640

    Rest in power.

    960

    00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:05.920

    It's been a long time now, too.

    961

    00:51:06.080 --> 00:51:06.900

    It's been a long time.

    962

    00:51:07.080 --> 00:51:09.280

    You know, the one talent is gone.

    963

    00:51:09.420 --> 00:51:13.620

    The one person that I do feel they've helped actually is show.

    964

    00:51:13.980 --> 00:51:16.500

    And not because he wrestles better.

    965

    00:51:17.160 --> 00:51:20.880

    It's because he has an actual character that he can express clearly.

    966

    00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.730

    OK, that does make them more employable.

    967

    00:51:24.340 --> 00:51:26.460

    And you can always use you.

    968

    00:51:26.460 --> 00:51:31.800

    And when he's done in House of Torture, I would love it if he left House of Torture and killed the rest of them.

    969

    00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:38.840

    Not really killed them, but like just destroyed the rest of the group and then had a great career after that because he's good.

    970

    00:51:39.140 --> 00:51:39.920

    He's such a weasel.

    971

    00:51:40.020 --> 00:51:50.220

    He is so good, but he's such he's so great at playing a weasel that if you can't help kind of laugh at him, if he turned face and did that, I would be heavy.

    972

    00:51:50.220 --> 00:51:53.740

    I saw the first.

    973

    00:51:55.260 --> 00:51:58.120

    The first round of the Super J Cup, the last one they did.

    974

    00:51:58.140 --> 00:51:59.180

    I was front row.

    975

    00:51:59.380 --> 00:52:02.260

    It was Liger's last time in North America.

    976

    00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:06.240

    And I saw Osprey versus Amazing Red.

    977

    00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.140

    But I also saw show beat.

    978

    00:52:11.220 --> 00:52:12.340

    Oh, God damn it.

    979

    00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:14.340

    What am I? What is it with me in names today?

    980

    00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:17.000

    The Bone Soldier.

    981

    00:52:18.160 --> 00:52:19.980

    Oh, my God.

    982

    00:52:20.200 --> 00:52:23.240

    How did I for this is a comedy of errors here.

    983

    00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:24.200

    I need you more.

    984

    00:52:24.560 --> 00:52:25.100

    Is she more?

    985

    00:52:25.240 --> 00:52:28.660

    Yes, I saw a show in Ishi Mori Russell and show beat each morning.

    986

    00:52:29.020 --> 00:52:31.520

    And it was real good.

    987

    00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:32.460

    Like it was.

    988

    00:52:32.460 --> 00:52:33.960

    That was a fantastic match.

    989

    00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:35.680

    I also saw Mystico.

    990

    00:52:35.740 --> 00:52:40.580

    But at the time he was Christico live at that time.

    991

    00:52:40.580 --> 00:52:42.000

    It was very good.

    992

    00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:42.600

    Blair line.

    993

    00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:43.840

    Hey, you're right.

    994

    00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:47.680

    At least Tonga Loa will soon be a free agent so he can tear it up in the G one.

    995

    00:52:49.980 --> 00:52:55.720

    Now, I'm going to welcome him back with open arms because his usage, what they did,

    996

    00:52:56.060 --> 00:52:58.600

    I don't know what they thought they were going to get.

    997

    00:52:58.600 --> 00:52:59.820

    I understand money.

    998

    00:52:59.820 --> 00:53:04.360

    And it must have been just the money because they did nothing with them.

    999

    00:53:04.700 --> 00:53:05.220

    Nothing.

    1000

    00:53:05.460 --> 00:53:09.720

    I think with Tonga Loa, him without Tama is a mess.

    1001

    00:53:09.720 --> 00:53:12.620

    Like, he's not very good.

    1002

    00:53:13.340 --> 00:53:15.740

    Yes, Tama was the one.

    1003

    00:53:16.980 --> 00:53:18.160

    Let me make sure Tama.

    1004

    00:53:18.260 --> 00:53:19.740

    Tama has the curly hair, right?

    1005

    00:53:20.100 --> 00:53:21.100

    So, yeah, Tom.

    1006

    00:53:21.340 --> 00:53:23.400

    He was more breaking.

    1007

    00:53:24.160 --> 00:53:26.140

    He was the original OG Bullet Club guy.

    1008

    00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:26.880

    Okay.

    1009

    00:53:26.940 --> 00:53:28.960

    We had the stuff originally.

    1010

    00:53:30.100 --> 00:53:30.600

    Yeah.

    1011

    00:53:30.680 --> 00:53:31.080

    Mm hmm.

    1012

    00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:34.080

    And Tonga Loa was in NXT as Camacho.

    1013

    00:53:34.660 --> 00:53:38.340

    And then he got released and he came over and they formed God.

    1014

    00:53:40.640 --> 00:53:45.300

    So Tonga Loa is the bigger one, basically.

    1015

    00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:46.820

    Tonga Loa is the bigger one.

    1016

    00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:49.720

    Tama Tonga is the one who had the better singles career.

    1017

    00:53:50.220 --> 00:53:52.900

    He had a singles career and he's good.

    1018

    00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:53.920

    Yeah.

    1019

    00:53:54.140 --> 00:53:54.920

    He's very good worker.

    1020

    00:53:54.940 --> 00:53:55.500

    Yeah.

    1021

    00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:57.920

    So I do agree.

    1022

    00:53:58.420 --> 00:54:00.880

    Tonga Loa is going to have a bit of a struggle.

    1023

    00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:09.100

    He started to a little bit with, I believe it was the New Japan Cup

    1024

    00:54:09.100 --> 00:54:14.260

    and I got to see him a little bit, but he's going to have a hard time.

    1025

    00:54:14.340 --> 00:54:14.580

    Yeah.

    1026

    00:54:14.580 --> 00:54:15.780

    If he comes back.

    1027

    00:54:17.300 --> 00:54:19.360

    I hope he's made a bunch of money, man.

    1028

    00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.740

    I just hope he did, too.

    1029

    00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:24.840

    GOG hasn't been gone very long.

    1030

    00:54:25.040 --> 00:54:25.520

    You know what I mean?

    1031

    00:54:25.640 --> 00:54:29.920

    Unless one of my homies in the chat have a suggestion.

    1032

    00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:32.800

    I mean, I don't see a reason to bring Tonga Loa back.

    1033

    00:54:33.040 --> 00:54:33.780

    Hang it up, bro.

    1034

    00:54:35.980 --> 00:54:39.300

    Damien directly says the fact that Shingo, who is borderline weight class

    1035

    00:54:39.300 --> 00:54:42.600

    for a while and fighting cruiserweights in Dragon Gate, had to dull his edge

    1036

    00:54:42.600 --> 00:54:46.400

    that much just so Yujiro Takahashi could look somewhat decent is sad.

    1037

    00:54:46.820 --> 00:54:50.000

    Look, Shingo is the man.

    1038

    00:54:50.300 --> 00:54:53.400

    OK, he is my favorite guy in New Japan.

    1039

    00:54:53.660 --> 00:54:54.060

    All right.

    1040

    00:54:54.120 --> 00:54:57.060

    He had to do the same a little bit for Callum Newman.

    1041

    00:54:57.600 --> 00:54:59.960

    Yeah, he did last year during the G1.

    1042

    00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:00.800

    Yeah.

    1043

    00:55:00.980 --> 00:55:01.660

    Mm hmm.

    1044

    00:55:01.660 --> 00:55:03.940

    And he lost to him, too.

    1045

    00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:12.060

    Shingo is he's one of the biggest just wow out of nowhere when he joined

    1046

    00:55:12.060 --> 00:55:15.040

    a L.I.J. I loved him immediately.

    1047

    00:55:15.040 --> 00:55:16.660

    And he was a cruiserweight.

    1048

    00:55:17.300 --> 00:55:19.820

    That's what people don't use a light heavyweight.

    1049

    00:55:20.700 --> 00:55:24.880

    And he was kicking ass that much and then got all the way to heavyweight.

    1050

    00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:29.220

    And he's still kicking ass that much and still can move exactly the same.

    1051

    00:55:29.220 --> 00:55:32.460

    Well, and Shingo's Shingo and I are close in age.

    1052

    00:55:32.860 --> 00:55:34.600

    So this dude is as good as he is.

    1053

    00:55:34.600 --> 00:55:37.160

    And he's like 45 years old, I believe.

    1054

    00:55:37.460 --> 00:55:37.900

    Yeah.

    1055

    00:55:38.560 --> 00:55:40.540

    You got a few years and that's it.

    1056

    00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:42.880

    But God damn, give him a go to run.

    1057

    00:55:43.180 --> 00:55:43.800

    You know what I mean?

    1058

    00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:44.700

    You could do it for God.

    1059

    00:55:44.780 --> 00:55:46.600

    You can't do it for Shingo.

    1060

    00:55:47.040 --> 00:55:51.480

    That's why I am putting the kibosh on the title versus title

    1061

    00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:57.580

    and the winners of those titles because of him specifically and go to also

    1062

    00:55:57.580 --> 00:56:00.440

    the Revolutionary Army didn't form for nothing.

    1063

    00:56:00.740 --> 00:56:01.920

    Mm hmm.

    1064

    00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:03.040

    All right.

    1065

    00:56:03.040 --> 00:56:03.760

    Let's see.

    1066

    00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:05.180

    We're in the chat here.

    1067

    00:56:05.220 --> 00:56:05.540

    Wow.

    1068

    00:56:05.680 --> 00:56:07.360

    We kicked off this New Japan stuff.

    1069

    00:56:07.460 --> 00:56:08.400

    We don't talk New Japan.

    1070

    00:56:08.520 --> 00:56:09.280

    I love it.

    1071

    00:56:09.420 --> 00:56:10.340

    I love it.

    1072

    00:56:10.420 --> 00:56:14.760

    There's the chap like begging us like Taiji Ishimori.

    1073

    00:56:14.860 --> 00:56:15.520

    I know.

    1074

    00:56:15.660 --> 00:56:17.300

    That's all that.

    1075

    00:56:18.020 --> 00:56:18.680

    Thank you.

    1076

    00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:19.620

    I appreciate you.

    1077

    00:56:19.620 --> 00:56:20.680

    Yeah, I appreciate you.

    1078

    00:56:20.700 --> 00:56:21.000

    Yeah.

    1079

    00:56:21.260 --> 00:56:23.660

    I also need to point out that William Regal said he was the most

    1080

    00:56:23.660 --> 00:56:26.800

    talented guy in NXT during his first run as Kamacho.

    1081

    00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:30.280

    He called Tonga Loa the most talented guy in NXT.

    1082

    00:56:31.140 --> 00:56:35.560

    I saw him in NXT and he sucked then when he was Kamacho.

    1083

    00:56:36.160 --> 00:56:37.760

    William Williams should know better.

    1084

    00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:38.800

    William Schmillium.

    1085

    00:56:39.620 --> 00:56:40.100

    Okay.

    1086

    00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:40.900

    The guy.

    1087

    00:56:40.900 --> 00:56:42.560

    Look, he's great at a lot of things.

    1088

    00:56:42.660 --> 00:56:43.960

    Maybe not scouting talent though.

    1089

    00:56:45.120 --> 00:56:45.640

    No.

    1090

    00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:48.180

    Tama and Towa together.

    1091

    00:56:48.180 --> 00:56:49.040

    I saw them in London.

    1092

    00:56:49.060 --> 00:56:49.940

    They were fucking sick.

    1093

    00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:50.360

    Yeah.

    1094

    00:56:50.460 --> 00:56:52.660

    Thomas got awesome together.

    1095

    00:56:53.720 --> 00:56:54.700

    They are so great.

    1096

    00:56:54.700 --> 00:56:56.880

    I love the Gorillaz of Destiny to me.

    1097

    00:56:57.020 --> 00:57:00.080

    When they work together, the Gorillaz of Destiny were the best

    1098

    00:57:00.080 --> 00:57:04.660

    damn tag team in the world hands down.

    1099

    00:57:04.660 --> 00:57:05.460

    They're a lot of fun.

    1100

    00:57:06.060 --> 00:57:09.320

    And that's where Tonga like somebody like that is going to

    1101

    00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:15.400

    succeed with aura and presence because you can have, you know,

    1102

    00:57:15.580 --> 00:57:19.980

    you can have Tama Tonga in there doing all the actual work and

    1103

    00:57:19.980 --> 00:57:22.980

    then have him come in and just do a hot tag,

    1104

    00:57:22.980 --> 00:57:25.520

    hit some big moves and get the fuck out of the ring again.

    1105

    00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:26.140

    You know,

    1106

    00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:27.840

    Flex some muscles.

    1107

    00:57:27.940 --> 00:57:28.860

    Yeah, exactly.

    1108

    00:57:29.100 --> 00:57:30.220

    He's cause he's scary.

    1109

    00:57:30.460 --> 00:57:31.360

    That's for sure.

    1110

    00:57:31.740 --> 00:57:32.640

    It's very scary.

    1111

    00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:35.840

    Damien directly Tonga Lois ceiling is a floor right now.

    1112

    00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:37.800

    That is very true.

    1113

    00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:39.260

    It's so true.

    1114

    00:57:39.260 --> 00:57:42.120

    It is actually kind of sad, but it's true.

    1115

    00:57:42.700 --> 00:57:43.300

    My friend,

    1116

    00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:45.020

    BJ Dixon in the chat.

    1117

    00:57:45.020 --> 00:57:47.020

    What up, brother?

    1118

    00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:48.280

    Good to see you, man.

    1119

    00:57:49.460 --> 00:57:51.560

    Justin Shingo deserves a title run with people cheering,

    1120

    00:57:51.560 --> 00:57:52.680

    not just COVID clapping.

    1121

    00:57:53.080 --> 00:57:53.420

    Come on.

    1122

    00:57:53.540 --> 00:57:54.400

    Yes. Amen.

    1123

    00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:57.060

    That's, that's really how it should have been said.

    1124

    00:57:57.440 --> 00:57:59.420

    We've been, we've been waiting for the way.

    1125

    00:57:59.860 --> 00:58:03.440

    Justin, you have saved us all because nobody was cheering.

    1126

    00:58:03.680 --> 00:58:05.520

    And that hurt my heart for Shingo.

    1127

    00:58:06.020 --> 00:58:08.240

    Cause I loved that title run.

    1128

    00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:10.340

    I think why I love the,

    1129

    00:58:10.340 --> 00:58:15.440

    the wrestling itself during COVID was from new Japan was

    1130

    00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:15.700

    amazing.

    1131

    00:58:16.160 --> 00:58:16.580

    It was.

    1132

    00:58:16.720 --> 00:58:19.820

    So he deserves to be in front of people and had that title

    1133

    00:58:19.820 --> 00:58:20.600

    around his waist.

    1134

    00:58:20.600 --> 00:58:24.620

    Do you remember him in Tana Hashi having a five star match in

    1135

    00:58:24.620 --> 00:58:26.860

    front of like, I, there were actually people there.

    1136

    00:58:26.860 --> 00:58:29.880

    It was like in front of like 300 people or something in a

    1137

    00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:30.120

    huge.

    1138

    00:58:30.220 --> 00:58:32.860

    Yeah. That's when they started to bring people back just a

    1139

    00:58:32.860 --> 00:58:33.540

    little bit,

    1140

    00:58:33.680 --> 00:58:37.980

    but they had just on like one of Tana Hashi's last,

    1141

    00:58:38.180 --> 00:58:41.320

    like truly fantastic matches.

    1142

    00:58:41.420 --> 00:58:44.400

    I have to go back and look through what I,

    1143

    00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:45.780

    I know they had multiple,

    1144

    00:58:45.780 --> 00:58:46.400

    multiple,

    1145

    00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:50.360

    multiple five star matches during the pandemic.

    1146

    00:58:51.240 --> 00:58:53.080

    That weren't seen by anybody.

    1147

    00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:55.420

    Unless you were watching.

    1148

    00:58:55.700 --> 00:58:57.520

    I would read about, I would, you know,

    1149

    00:58:57.520 --> 00:59:00.180

    I would get updates on what happened and then I go watch the

    1150

    00:59:00.180 --> 00:59:01.260

    matches that I wanted to see.

    1151

    00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:02.400

    I wouldn't watch whole shows.

    1152

    00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:04.080

    Cause it was a little weird.

    1153

    00:59:05.040 --> 00:59:07.360

    Two clear Wessels X Tungalow will do fine in TNA.

    1154

    00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:10.500

    Probably they would bring them in as a huge star.

    1155

    00:59:10.540 --> 00:59:12.280

    That's not a bad idea. Honestly.

    1156

    00:59:12.820 --> 00:59:14.060

    That's actually not.

    1157

    00:59:14.060 --> 00:59:17.680

    You know, him and Alistair black could form a hell of a team.

    1158

    00:59:18.200 --> 00:59:18.800

    Okay.

    1159

    00:59:19.660 --> 00:59:23.440

    So NJPW currently navigating a post bullet club roster is very,

    1160

    00:59:23.460 --> 00:59:25.580

    very interesting to see unfold a hundred percent.

    1161

    00:59:25.580 --> 00:59:27.700

    It has been, it has been.

    1162

    00:59:27.780 --> 00:59:31.400

    And they're kind of plugging United empire into that bullet club

    1163

    00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:32.000

    sized hole.

    1164

    00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:33.180

    You know,

    1165

    00:59:33.720 --> 00:59:34.560

    Cause it's,

    1166

    00:59:34.560 --> 00:59:38.300

    it's very massive to not have the guy Jen stable there.

    1167

    00:59:39.120 --> 00:59:43.540

    That are heels to help play off of that.

    1168

    00:59:43.540 --> 00:59:46.240

    And I think that the rest of the roster can always go to instead

    1169

    00:59:46.240 --> 00:59:47.620

    of fighting each other.

    1170

    00:59:47.640 --> 00:59:48.080

    Yeah.

    1171

    00:59:48.500 --> 00:59:49.600

    A hundred percent.

    1172

    00:59:49.600 --> 00:59:50.420

    A blurry line said,

    1173

    00:59:50.460 --> 00:59:52.860

    hearing ain't nobody realer than grill has seen those two come

    1174

    00:59:52.860 --> 00:59:55.000

    out with the heavyweight tag titles and Tom will be in the

    1175

    00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:55.320

    mouthpiece.

    1176

    00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:57.840

    There was so much more than the sum of their parts.

    1177

    00:59:57.840 --> 00:59:58.400

    A hundred percent.

    1178

    00:59:58.400 --> 00:59:59.540

    They really were.

    1179

    00:59:59.660 --> 01:00:00.700

    They had a presence.

    1180

    01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:03.900

    They had an aura when they were in the bullet club as

    1181

    01:00:03.900 --> 01:00:05.320

    great as Kenny was.

    1182

    01:00:05.860 --> 01:00:07.020

    And excuse me.

    1183

    01:00:07.140 --> 01:00:08.300

    If books is here.

    1184

    01:00:08.620 --> 01:00:12.680

    Great as Kenny is great as the bucks are.

    1185

    01:00:14.140 --> 01:00:20.900

    And I actually do believe that it was the presence of the

    1186

    01:00:20.900 --> 01:00:25.000

    gorillas that helped to bring them along and let them realize

    1187

    01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:27.360

    that they can shine as well.

    1188

    01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:34.400

    And I loved watching them actually mentor in sort of a way

    1189

    01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:38.160

    and also have like a gentleman's rivalry against the

    1190

    01:00:38.160 --> 01:00:38.440

    bucks.

    1191

    01:00:39.380 --> 01:00:39.580

    Yeah.

    1192

    01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:40.180

    Yeah.

    1193

    01:00:40.180 --> 01:00:40.440

    Well,

    1194

    01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:42.120

    I mean, that was what was cool about bullet club.

    1195

    01:00:42.300 --> 01:00:45.640

    I have to say for a faction that got as large as they did,

    1196

    01:00:46.900 --> 01:00:50.540

    they had rivalries with each other in the grid.

    1197

    01:00:50.560 --> 01:00:51.620

    You know, that was cool.

    1198

    01:00:51.820 --> 01:00:53.520

    That was a lot of fun.

    1199

    01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:55.900

    A blurry line echoing a lot of my sentiments here.

    1200

    01:00:55.980 --> 01:00:58.140

    Shingo is my new Japan forever goat.

    1201

    01:00:58.580 --> 01:01:00.700

    I remember the first Russell kingdom I saw live had the

    1202

    01:01:00.700 --> 01:01:02.100

    Shingo versus Jeff Cobb match.

    1203

    01:01:02.620 --> 01:01:05.760

    And even my brother who had never saw NJPW before was

    1204

    01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:06.140

    amazed.

    1205

    01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:09.580

    Shingo is one of the greatest workers I've ever seen.

    1206

    01:01:09.580 --> 01:01:10.540

    Just period.

    1207

    01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:16.940

    And that is actually not any sort of stretch of an

    1208

    01:01:16.940 --> 01:01:18.040

    imagination at all.

    1209

    01:01:18.140 --> 01:01:19.880

    Like there's no hyperbole.

    1210

    01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:20.320

    Right.

    1211

    01:01:20.820 --> 01:01:23.640

    That guy can get a crowd into anything that he's doing

    1212

    01:01:23.640 --> 01:01:25.520

    no matter who his opponent is.

    1213

    01:01:25.980 --> 01:01:28.320

    And that's my guy.

    1214

    01:01:28.860 --> 01:01:28.960

    Yeah.

    1215

    01:01:29.180 --> 01:01:29.460

    Yeah.

    1216

    01:01:29.660 --> 01:01:30.960

    And I,

    1217

    01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:33.840

    I have the last especially the last 10 years that I

    1218

    01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:38.800

    have seen Shingo Takagi is one of the absolute greatest

    1219

    01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:39.380

    of all time.

    1220

    01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:40.640

    And I don't even think it's debatable.

    1221

    01:01:40.680 --> 01:01:41.220

    Like he is.

    1222

    01:01:41.220 --> 01:01:42.900

    He's just fantastic.

    1223

    01:01:43.180 --> 01:01:44.040

    He's fantastic.

    1224

    01:01:44.140 --> 01:01:45.020

    Never be number one.

    1225

    01:01:45.060 --> 01:01:46.040

    There's always some now.

    1226

    01:01:46.140 --> 01:01:47.540

    He named Tetsuya Naito that.

    1227

    01:01:50.500 --> 01:01:50.980

    Nice.

    1228

    01:01:51.260 --> 01:01:51.640

    Nice.

    1229

    01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:54.060

    Plus his match at Royal quest three against Ishii

    1230

    01:01:54.060 --> 01:01:56.480

    literally got four standing ovations when I was there.

    1231

    01:01:56.740 --> 01:01:57.420

    That's dope.

    1232

    01:01:57.600 --> 01:01:58.460

    He saw that live.

    1233

    01:01:58.660 --> 01:01:59.840

    That's I love those.

    1234

    01:01:59.920 --> 01:02:01.680

    You saw that live.

    1235

    01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:02.700

    That rules.

    1236

    01:02:02.860 --> 01:02:03.540

    That rule.

    1237

    01:02:03.580 --> 01:02:04.940

    I love those world quest shows.

    1238

    01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:07.400

    They always are so wild.

    1239

    01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:09.540

    The crowds are crazy.

    1240

    01:02:10.500 --> 01:02:12.020

    One of my favorite matches,

    1241

    01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:15.600

    if I may, is were you there?

    1242

    01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:19.860

    I don't think it was at three for the Minoru Suzuki

    1243

    01:02:19.860 --> 01:02:22.280

    Kazuchika Okada title match.

    1244

    01:02:22.740 --> 01:02:25.640

    That was my favorite match at Royal quest.

    1245

    01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:26.820

    Wasn't that the three?

    1246

    01:02:26.940 --> 01:02:28.320

    I think it was one or two.

    1247

    01:02:30.100 --> 01:02:30.660

    Yeah.

    1248

    01:02:32.710 --> 01:02:33.690

    That was a great match.

    1249

    01:02:33.770 --> 01:02:34.750

    I do remember that.

    1250

    01:02:34.890 --> 01:02:35.730

    I do remember that.

    1251

    01:02:35.730 --> 01:02:39.350

    Nuclear Wessel's ex thought Osprey further injured Danielson's neck.

    1252

    01:02:39.490 --> 01:02:41.390

    Then Mox finished Brian Danielson's career.

    1253

    01:02:41.750 --> 01:02:44.370

    Now Mox is helping Osprey come back from a neck injury.

    1254

    01:02:45.270 --> 01:02:45.870

    Interesting.

    1255

    01:02:46.150 --> 01:02:47.290

    That's a little bit of story.

    1256

    01:02:49.770 --> 01:02:50.970

    That's interesting.

    1257

    01:02:51.690 --> 01:02:52.730

    Very interesting.

    1258

    01:02:53.330 --> 01:02:56.650

    That just put my career at an end.

    1259

    01:02:58.070 --> 01:03:00.430

    But like he almost did the same thing to Osprey,

    1260

    01:03:00.450 --> 01:03:04.550

    but he's actually making the opposite decision to like

    1261

    01:03:04.550 --> 01:03:07.030

    redeem himself maybe a little bit.

    1262

    01:03:07.530 --> 01:03:08.130

    Who knows?

    1263

    01:03:08.610 --> 01:03:09.270

    Who knows?

    1264

    01:03:09.750 --> 01:03:12.210

    Just don't let him poke you in the tummy.

    1265

    01:03:12.370 --> 01:03:13.550

    That seems lethal.

    1266

    01:03:14.150 --> 01:03:15.210

    Like when Mox was like,

    1267

    01:03:16.970 --> 01:03:18.210

    to pack.

    1268

    01:03:18.550 --> 01:03:20.190

    That was really weird.

    1269

    01:03:22.130 --> 01:03:25.410

    Look, and I'm a weird person and I love weird.

    1270

    01:03:25.810 --> 01:03:27.090

    But that was definitely weird.

    1271

    01:03:28.230 --> 01:03:28.510

    Okay.

    1272

    01:03:29.190 --> 01:03:30.070

    I'll tell you my language.

    1273

    01:03:30.390 --> 01:03:31.250

    Out of character.

    1274

    01:03:33.090 --> 01:03:34.590

    Weird can be good or bad.

    1275

    01:03:34.690 --> 01:03:36.330

    It just depends on the context.

    1276

    01:03:37.210 --> 01:03:40.130

    Shingo versus ZSJ during the pandemic was a low key banger.

    1277

    01:03:40.330 --> 01:03:41.110

    It absolutely was.

    1278

    01:03:41.310 --> 01:03:41.930

    Yes, it was.

    1279

    01:03:42.270 --> 01:03:43.230

    Zach Sabre Jr.

    1280

    01:03:43.790 --> 01:03:45.350

    has a way and he's one of,

    1281

    01:03:45.450 --> 01:03:51.010

    I mean he made like long form technical matches.

    1282

    01:03:51.890 --> 01:03:53.790

    One of the coolest things in the fucking world.

    1283

    01:03:55.170 --> 01:03:58.090

    Something to do that.

    1284

    01:03:58.110 --> 01:04:00.510

    He made them something that is cool again.

    1285

    01:04:00.770 --> 01:04:01.290

    Yeah.

    1286

    01:04:01.290 --> 01:04:04.790

    Well, but it's only him that can really do it that way.

    1287

    01:04:05.230 --> 01:04:05.650

    Right.

    1288

    01:04:06.290 --> 01:04:09.650

    We're talking about in a day and age of very short intention spans

    1289

    01:04:09.650 --> 01:04:11.770

    and he can make a 45 minute match

    1290

    01:04:11.770 --> 01:04:13.750

    and have me sitting on my hands like this

    1291

    01:04:13.750 --> 01:04:15.290

    looking at the TV or my laptop.

    1292

    01:04:15.590 --> 01:04:17.510

    That match him and Ricochet had

    1293

    01:04:17.510 --> 01:04:20.530

    when he was the champion at Dynasty.

    1294

    01:04:22.610 --> 01:04:23.450

    Not Dynasty, I'm sorry.

    1295

    01:04:23.530 --> 01:04:25.790

    It was New Japan, AEW.

    1296

    01:04:25.870 --> 01:04:26.550

    Was it Dynasty?

    1297

    01:04:28.070 --> 01:04:29.530

    What was that joint show they did?

    1298

    01:04:29.710 --> 01:04:30.630

    It was Dynasty.

    1299

    01:04:30.630 --> 01:04:33.150

    It was Dynasty, but it's not AEW Dynasty.

    1300

    01:04:33.370 --> 01:04:36.570

    It was New Japan X AEW Dynasty,

    1301

    01:04:36.990 --> 01:04:40.030

    but they did that and that match

    1302

    01:04:40.030 --> 01:04:42.670

    where Ricochet and Zach went at each other

    1303

    01:04:42.670 --> 01:04:45.010

    was my favorite match on the show.

    1304

    01:04:45.190 --> 01:04:46.710

    Aside from Kenny and Gabe,

    1305

    01:04:47.130 --> 01:04:50.350

    but like that was so fucking good.

    1306

    01:04:50.910 --> 01:04:51.650

    That was great.

    1307

    01:04:52.630 --> 01:04:53.570

    I love anytime Trevor.

    1308

    01:04:54.250 --> 01:04:55.250

    I would go ahead.

    1309

    01:04:55.290 --> 01:04:56.410

    I would actually agree with you.

    1310

    01:04:56.410 --> 01:04:58.850

    I think that was the second best match on the show.

    1311

    01:04:58.850 --> 01:05:00.410

    Besides the obvious one.

    1312

    01:05:00.870 --> 01:05:03.090

    That was just a masterpiece of a match.

    1313

    01:05:03.670 --> 01:05:04.670

    But like, shit.

    1314

    01:05:04.930 --> 01:05:06.650

    I mean, to be on that same show

    1315

    01:05:06.650 --> 01:05:08.670

    and be in the same ballpark,

    1316

    01:05:08.870 --> 01:05:10.250

    pretty good, pretty good.

    1317

    01:05:10.910 --> 01:05:11.570

    You did pretty good.

    1318

    01:05:12.370 --> 01:05:13.010

    Let's see.

    1319

    01:05:13.810 --> 01:05:15.030

    So what in the world is going on

    1320

    01:05:15.030 --> 01:05:16.310

    with Unbound Company again?

    1321

    01:05:16.930 --> 01:05:17.950

    They exist.

    1322

    01:05:18.630 --> 01:05:20.650

    They're Hontai under a different name, right?

    1323

    01:05:21.390 --> 01:05:23.170

    They're Unbound Company.

    1324

    01:05:23.970 --> 01:05:26.610

    They're pretty much the remains of L.I.J.

    1325

    01:05:26.610 --> 01:05:28.350

    and the Bullet Club.

    1326

    01:05:29.610 --> 01:05:31.830

    And kind of sort of thrown in there

    1327

    01:05:31.830 --> 01:05:35.490

    with Daiki Nagai and Gaido.

    1328

    01:05:35.990 --> 01:05:40.190

    And it's this cauldron of stuff

    1329

    01:05:40.190 --> 01:05:41.790

    they're trying to make work.

    1330

    01:05:42.150 --> 01:05:42.570

    I don't know.

    1331

    01:05:42.790 --> 01:05:46.530

    I haven't gotten into the...

    1332

    01:05:46.530 --> 01:05:47.970

    It's led by Yota Tsuji.

    1333

    01:05:48.050 --> 01:05:49.530

    That's Yota Tsuji's group.

    1334

    01:05:50.610 --> 01:05:53.330

    And Gabe Pitt was a part of that group.

    1335

    01:05:54.250 --> 01:05:55.910

    Which is more...

    1336

    01:05:55.910 --> 01:05:58.330

    It's always been more face,

    1337

    01:05:58.390 --> 01:06:01.050

    more friendly now when they combine together.

    1338

    01:06:01.310 --> 01:06:04.010

    So how's that going to work when it's not?

    1339

    01:06:04.490 --> 01:06:04.970

    Right.

    1340

    01:06:06.910 --> 01:06:07.150

    All right.

    1341

    01:06:07.150 --> 01:06:08.170

    I'm going to read a few more chats

    1342

    01:06:08.170 --> 01:06:10.350

    and then we got a few more things to cover here.

    1343

    01:06:10.870 --> 01:06:15.350

    What a great fucking audience chatters we've had.

    1344

    01:06:15.530 --> 01:06:16.630

    This is so much fun.

    1345

    01:06:17.370 --> 01:06:18.410

    I'm just so happy.

    1346

    01:06:18.610 --> 01:06:19.510

    Is this your first one?

    1347

    01:06:19.570 --> 01:06:21.570

    Is this your first live stream?

    1348

    01:06:22.010 --> 01:06:23.770

    Live stream being asked questions, yes.

    1349

    01:06:23.890 --> 01:06:24.170

    Yeah.

    1350

    01:06:24.170 --> 01:06:25.430

    I think this is the first one.

    1351

    01:06:25.470 --> 01:06:27.110

    I couldn't remember if it was.

    1352

    01:06:28.330 --> 01:06:30.070

    I love that we moved to this format

    1353

    01:06:30.070 --> 01:06:31.170

    because I think that it...

    1354

    01:06:31.170 --> 01:06:31.610

    I really do.

    1355

    01:06:31.770 --> 01:06:32.650

    I think it's done.

    1356

    01:06:33.610 --> 01:06:36.410

    The format and the type of people we are

    1357

    01:06:36.410 --> 01:06:38.590

    and like to communicate with.

    1358

    01:06:39.470 --> 01:06:40.170

    It's involvement.

    1359

    01:06:40.690 --> 01:06:40.950

    Yeah.

    1360

    01:06:41.310 --> 01:06:42.630

    It's community, baby.

    1361

    01:06:42.950 --> 01:06:43.390

    It's community.

    1362

    01:06:43.490 --> 01:06:44.630

    We got each other.

    1363

    01:06:45.290 --> 01:06:46.730

    Okada was not there at three.

    1364

    01:06:47.330 --> 01:06:48.290

    It was the summer.

    1365

    01:06:48.310 --> 01:06:49.370

    He was really banged up.

    1366

    01:06:49.410 --> 01:06:51.010

    So that would have been...

    1367

    01:06:51.010 --> 01:06:51.990

    Ok.

    1368

    01:06:52.310 --> 01:06:52.650

    Gotcha.

    1369

    01:06:52.930 --> 01:06:55.410

    That would have been two.

    1370

    01:06:57.090 --> 01:06:58.990

    I think it was two or one.

    1371

    01:07:00.830 --> 01:07:02.670

    It was one or two.

    1372

    01:07:02.730 --> 01:07:03.630

    I can't remember.

    1373

    01:07:03.870 --> 01:07:05.990

    I'm not going to fight it

    1374

    01:07:05.990 --> 01:07:07.690

    because it's going to take me five minutes.

    1375

    01:07:08.370 --> 01:07:08.810

    All right.

    1376

    01:07:09.750 --> 01:07:11.830

    Book says long-term storytelling.

    1377

    01:07:12.410 --> 01:07:13.670

    It's a wonderful thing.

    1378

    01:07:14.170 --> 01:07:15.490

    It really is.

    1379

    01:07:16.490 --> 01:07:17.950

    Justin says, just got a shout out.

    1380

    01:07:17.950 --> 01:07:20.070

    ZSJ and Chris Brooks from DDT are helping

    1381

    01:07:20.070 --> 01:07:21.230

    bring some much needed chatter

    1382

    01:07:21.230 --> 01:07:22.950

    about Southeast Asian wrestling.

    1383

    01:07:23.490 --> 01:07:24.450

    They're going back to Manila

    1384

    01:07:24.450 --> 01:07:26.070

    to continue the story versus JDL.

    1385

    01:07:26.210 --> 01:07:27.070

    That's so dope.

    1386

    01:07:27.610 --> 01:07:27.990

    That's so dope.

    1387

    01:07:28.130 --> 01:07:29.890

    We got to get JDL back on the show.

    1388

    01:07:30.830 --> 01:07:32.750

    You know, something that I actually want to point out

    1389

    01:07:32.750 --> 01:07:34.810

    that I had a conversation with.

    1390

    01:07:35.410 --> 01:07:37.610

    Ring of Honor is one of the matches

    1391

    01:07:37.610 --> 01:07:39.990

    at Ring of Honor Supercard of Honor

    1392

    01:07:39.990 --> 01:07:42.590

    is going to be Viva Van versus Red Velvet.

    1393

    01:07:43.150 --> 01:07:46.230

    And I saw Ring of Honor's page on Facebook

    1394

    01:07:46.230 --> 01:07:48.470

    and I just commented because I love Viva Van.

    1395

    01:07:48.470 --> 01:07:52.550

    I can't stand the fact that she always loses.

    1396

    01:07:53.690 --> 01:07:55.710

    And I was just happy and I said,

    1397

    01:07:55.830 --> 01:07:58.930

    hey, Viva Van's finally getting the spotlight

    1398

    01:07:58.930 --> 01:08:00.030

    that she deserves.

    1399

    01:08:00.170 --> 01:08:02.710

    She was belt collecting on the West Coast.

    1400

    01:08:03.450 --> 01:08:07.690

    This woman has brought pro wrestling back to Vietnam.

    1401

    01:08:09.170 --> 01:08:10.610

    So she means something.

    1402

    01:08:11.050 --> 01:08:12.570

    And there was just this idiot

    1403

    01:08:12.570 --> 01:08:14.790

    who just kept going back and forth, just going,

    1404

    01:08:14.790 --> 01:08:15.670

    who?

    1405

    01:08:15.930 --> 01:08:18.370

    I was just like, you're the worst.

    1406

    01:08:19.290 --> 01:08:19.790

    Yeah.

    1407

    01:08:20.890 --> 01:08:21.029

    The worst.

    1408

    01:08:21.689 --> 01:08:24.870

    It's, you know, I posted today

    1409

    01:08:24.870 --> 01:08:28.189

    that WWE thinks that if they get rid of AEW,

    1410

    01:08:28.310 --> 01:08:30.410

    more people will want to consume WWE,

    1411

    01:08:30.649 --> 01:08:32.270

    but less people will watch wrestling.

    1412

    01:08:32.830 --> 01:08:34.029

    And I got, you know,

    1413

    01:08:34.069 --> 01:08:37.250

    so many reply guys just in there trying to tell me.

    1414

    01:08:37.450 --> 01:08:37.490

    Yeah.

    1415

    01:08:37.490 --> 01:08:38.850

    It's like, you know what?

    1416

    01:08:39.350 --> 01:08:41.689

    That's probably true.

    1417

    01:08:42.910 --> 01:08:45.310

    And why does it have to be a fact?

    1418

    01:08:45.770 --> 01:08:49.010

    Well, and the thing is like, I'm not saying you or me.

    1419

    01:08:49.069 --> 01:08:50.850

    I would still want you or me.

    1420

    01:08:50.910 --> 01:08:51.210

    Yeah.

    1421

    01:08:51.590 --> 01:08:54.770

    But just there is a large group of people

    1422

    01:08:54.770 --> 01:08:56.830

    that love AEW that would just stop watching

    1423

    01:08:56.830 --> 01:08:58.670

    because they don't want to watch WWE

    1424

    01:08:58.670 --> 01:09:01.130

    and maybe they don't know the Indies that well,

    1425

    01:09:01.229 --> 01:09:01.590

    you know?

    1426

    01:09:02.810 --> 01:09:05.779

    And so let's power run through a few things here.

    1427

    01:09:06.770 --> 01:09:10.729

    One thing I did notice in light of what happened

    1428

    01:09:10.729 --> 01:09:14.350

    at Dantaku, Yota Tsuji, he looks like a made man

    1429

    01:09:14.350 --> 01:09:16.830

    and ready to be an ace for this company.

    1430

    01:09:17.529 --> 01:09:20.590

    I was surprised to see him lose both those titles so fast,

    1431

    01:09:20.590 --> 01:09:22.250

    but it kind of makes sense too,

    1432

    01:09:23.210 --> 01:09:25.630

    because usually your first title runs kind of short.

    1433

    01:09:26.550 --> 01:09:29.210

    Your first world title run historically,

    1434

    01:09:29.450 --> 01:09:31.250

    like Naito was champion I think for a month

    1435

    01:09:31.250 --> 01:09:32.710

    when he first won the title.

    1436

    01:09:32.890 --> 01:09:33.970

    Yes he was.

    1437

    01:09:33.970 --> 01:09:34.189

    Yeah.

    1438

    01:09:34.390 --> 01:09:36.350

    Also straight at directly at the next pay per year.

    1439

    01:09:36.670 --> 01:09:36.910

    Yep.

    1440

    01:09:37.149 --> 01:09:37.450

    Yep.

    1441

    01:09:37.450 --> 01:09:42.010

    And then he lost both titles pretty quick.

    1442

    01:09:42.810 --> 01:09:43.850

    Quick succession.

    1443

    01:09:44.710 --> 01:09:46.470

    If I may on Yota,

    1444

    01:09:47.090 --> 01:09:52.450

    because you did mention that he seems like he's on his way

    1445

    01:09:52.450 --> 01:09:54.310

    to becoming an ace of the company

    1446

    01:09:54.890 --> 01:09:58.840

    and I can't believe I'm saying it.

    1447

    01:09:58.840 --> 01:09:59.520

    I disagree.

    1448

    01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:04.540

    I think this was a sign to me

    1449

    01:10:04.540 --> 01:10:06.920

    that Yota got some work to do

    1450

    01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:09.540

    because they had to take both of them off of him.

    1451

    01:10:09.540 --> 01:10:13.340

    And I think it's going to help storylines anyway.

    1452

    01:10:14.320 --> 01:10:18.480

    And we needed to freshen up so Callum can grow too.

    1453

    01:10:19.220 --> 01:10:25.620

    But I think it's time for Yota to do more

    1454

    01:10:25.620 --> 01:10:29.460

    without being in the face of the company

    1455

    01:10:29.460 --> 01:10:31.280

    to grow a little bit.

    1456

    01:10:31.480 --> 01:10:34.540

    Kind of almost like Shota but not to that level.

    1457

    01:10:36.080 --> 01:10:37.660

    Yeah, I don't think it's anywhere near

    1458

    01:10:37.660 --> 01:10:38.880

    to the degree of Shota.

    1459

    01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:43.720

    I thought his main event seemed convincing.

    1460

    01:10:44.260 --> 01:10:45.340

    I think that...

    1461

    01:10:45.340 --> 01:10:46.440

    Yeah, they're very good.

    1462

    01:10:47.580 --> 01:10:49.660

    It's just that word, ace.

    1463

    01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:51.500

    Is he ready to be an ace yet?

    1464

    01:10:52.180 --> 01:10:53.580

    If you are,

    1465

    01:10:54.020 --> 01:10:56.300

    I wouldn't think they'd take both titles off of him.

    1466

    01:10:56.580 --> 01:10:58.460

    Well, it's a fair point.

    1467

    01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:00.800

    What I would say is I think they see the money

    1468

    01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:02.520

    in the Callum Will story.

    1469

    01:11:03.080 --> 01:11:04.480

    And that has a lot to do with it.

    1470

    01:11:04.540 --> 01:11:07.120

    And Andrade winning the belt is a part of that story.

    1471

    01:11:07.120 --> 01:11:08.220

    Absolutely.

    1472

    01:11:08.380 --> 01:11:11.040

    Money keeps the company actually running.

    1473

    01:11:12.340 --> 01:11:13.560

    We got to have the money.

    1474

    01:11:14.080 --> 01:11:15.760

    I've been accused in the chat of hating Kenny.

    1475

    01:11:15.980 --> 01:11:19.180

    I think everyone can attest to that not being true.

    1476

    01:11:20.440 --> 01:11:22.400

    He hates Kenny books.

    1477

    01:11:22.420 --> 01:11:23.040

    I'm sorry.

    1478

    01:11:23.320 --> 01:11:23.880

    What?

    1479

    01:11:26.360 --> 01:11:28.180

    I heard it.

    1480

    01:11:28.740 --> 01:11:29.640

    No, no.

    1481

    01:11:29.820 --> 01:11:32.320

    I've never once said I hate Kenneth Durham Omega.

    1482

    01:11:32.400 --> 01:11:33.220

    He's my hero.

    1483

    01:11:33.300 --> 01:11:34.020

    I'm sorry.

    1484

    01:11:34.420 --> 01:11:34.700

    What?

    1485

    01:11:36.280 --> 01:11:36.760

    Wow.

    1486

    01:11:37.320 --> 01:11:38.960

    Do me dirty, man.

    1487

    01:11:40.660 --> 01:11:43.600

    Nuclear Wessex recently watching old WCCW

    1488

    01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:45.400

    and seeing the crowds they pulled in back then.

    1489

    01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:46.080

    Blade is right.

    1490

    01:11:46.360 --> 01:11:46.660

    Yes.

    1491

    01:11:46.860 --> 01:11:47.840

    Less people will watch wrestling.

    1492

    01:11:48.400 --> 01:11:48.880

    Period.

    1493

    01:11:48.980 --> 01:11:50.280

    Less people will watch wrestling.

    1494

    01:11:50.740 --> 01:11:54.720

    And you know freaking Blade loves the elite.

    1495

    01:11:55.820 --> 01:11:58.060

    I annoy the shit out of you with it sometimes.

    1496

    01:11:58.480 --> 01:11:59.400

    I know I do.

    1497

    01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:00.260

    It's OK.

    1498

    01:12:00.360 --> 01:12:00.900

    I know I do.

    1499

    01:12:02.500 --> 01:12:03.940

    I like love them.

    1500

    01:12:03.940 --> 01:12:04.620

    Yeah.

    1501

    01:12:04.620 --> 01:12:05.720

    I like love them.

    1502

    01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:06.300

    I know.

    1503

    01:12:06.300 --> 01:12:06.960

    I know.

    1504

    01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:08.600

    I know the respect is there.

    1505

    01:12:08.900 --> 01:12:12.500

    And I know you get sick of how much everybody else loves them too.

    1506

    01:12:13.100 --> 01:12:14.340

    It's all right.

    1507

    01:12:14.660 --> 01:12:16.680

    Yota Tsuji is so boring in my honest opinion.

    1508

    01:12:16.740 --> 01:12:17.340

    Nuclear Wessex.

    1509

    01:12:17.420 --> 01:12:19.580

    You know, I kind of honestly think he is.

    1510

    01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:22.860

    I think that a part of that actually affects me

    1511

    01:12:22.860 --> 01:12:25.560

    because you win a title with Boston Crab.

    1512

    01:12:27.100 --> 01:12:28.540

    They went too far with that.

    1513

    01:12:29.400 --> 01:12:32.260

    I think a lot of his moves.

    1514

    01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:37.400

    He's a very modern, Americanized wrestler

    1515

    01:12:37.400 --> 01:12:40.540

    without ever having wrestled in the West.

    1516

    01:12:40.900 --> 01:12:43.260

    But he's a very Western style type of wrestler.

    1517

    01:12:44.020 --> 01:12:46.760

    And you're doing the spear and the stomp

    1518

    01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:50.040

    and the Boston Crab for some reason

    1519

    01:12:50.040 --> 01:12:51.800

    is one of your premier moves.

    1520

    01:12:52.060 --> 01:12:52.540

    And you're right.

    1521

    01:12:53.080 --> 01:12:54.720

    They took it too far.

    1522

    01:12:56.360 --> 01:12:56.560

    Yeah.

    1523

    01:12:56.560 --> 01:12:57.860

    I think the crab thing.

    1524

    01:12:57.860 --> 01:12:59.020

    That should have.

    1525

    01:12:59.080 --> 01:13:01.960

    I could see it being that one match where it worked

    1526

    01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:04.160

    because he came up through the New Japan system

    1527

    01:13:04.160 --> 01:13:05.340

    and Takeshita didn't.

    1528

    01:13:05.360 --> 01:13:07.100

    And that's like.

    1529

    01:13:07.440 --> 01:13:08.280

    Yeah, I get that part.

    1530

    01:13:08.420 --> 01:13:08.720

    Yeah.

    1531

    01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:09.840

    There's some poetry.

    1532

    01:13:10.060 --> 01:13:11.200

    I'm bringing a point here.

    1533

    01:13:11.400 --> 01:13:11.840

    Yeah.

    1534

    01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:13.580

    There's some poetry to that.

    1535

    01:13:13.820 --> 01:13:18.060

    But I didn't get it when he was like beating Andrade with it

    1536

    01:13:18.060 --> 01:13:20.140

    and he was beating, you know, like that.

    1537

    01:13:20.220 --> 01:13:21.800

    That's when I was like.

    1538

    01:13:22.100 --> 01:13:23.720

    Like it's a Boston Crab.

    1539

    01:13:24.320 --> 01:13:25.360

    Boston Crab.

    1540

    01:13:25.480 --> 01:13:25.740

    Yeah.

    1541

    01:13:25.740 --> 01:13:26.140

    Come on.

    1542

    01:13:26.140 --> 01:13:26.960

    Come on.

    1543

    01:13:28.460 --> 01:13:29.340

    Let's see.

    1544

    01:13:29.580 --> 01:13:30.540

    Justin says Yoda.

    1545

    01:13:30.660 --> 01:13:33.240

    Maybe the storyline is about him trying to keep the vestiges

    1546

    01:13:33.240 --> 01:13:34.460

    of Nito's L.I.J.

    1547

    01:13:34.780 --> 01:13:35.780

    but failing to do so.

    1548

    01:13:35.780 --> 01:13:37.580

    Hence a little bit of reinvention.

    1549

    01:13:38.040 --> 01:13:40.680

    I feel like Unbound Company is just a transient faction.

    1550

    01:13:41.200 --> 01:13:42.280

    I mean, yeah, it is.

    1551

    01:13:42.980 --> 01:13:46.580

    I will say I agree wholeheartedly with the fact

    1552

    01:13:46.580 --> 01:13:51.500

    that there are a transition faction.

    1553

    01:13:52.380 --> 01:13:52.720

    Absolutely.

    1554

    01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:55.100

    It's where you go when you're between things.

    1555

    01:13:55.100 --> 01:13:56.520

    It's not a stat gap.

    1556

    01:13:57.800 --> 01:13:58.400

    Stop gap.

    1557

    01:13:58.740 --> 01:13:59.420

    Stop gap.

    1558

    01:14:01.540 --> 01:14:04.620

    I don't know what they're going to do,

    1559

    01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:10.300

    but Unbound Company itself as it's constituted will not last.

    1560

    01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:12.120

    No, there's no way.

    1561

    01:14:12.500 --> 01:14:13.680

    It's interesting though,

    1562

    01:14:13.820 --> 01:14:15.740

    because like when they show people in the crowd

    1563

    01:14:15.740 --> 01:14:16.760

    with the signs and stuff,

    1564

    01:14:16.940 --> 01:14:19.660

    there's people with the sign Unbound, you know.

    1565

    01:14:20.860 --> 01:14:22.840

    I like it, but then I can't.

    1566

    01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:23.760

    I see that.

    1567

    01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:26.000

    I see ghetto come out with them all the time.

    1568

    01:14:26.080 --> 01:14:28.140

    I'm like, how long is this?

    1569

    01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:32.300

    Literally fucking hanging out with the fucking devil.

    1570

    01:14:32.300 --> 01:14:35.000

    And you're just like, well, he's not in a faction right now.

    1571

    01:14:35.460 --> 01:14:35.960

    Come on.

    1572

    01:14:36.280 --> 01:14:36.880

    Come on.

    1573

    01:14:37.160 --> 01:14:38.680

    I think Yoda is like mostly there.

    1574

    01:14:38.700 --> 01:14:41.400

    He needs that tiny bit of polish and a bit of a better aesthetic.

    1575

    01:14:41.740 --> 01:14:42.520

    That's fair.

    1576

    01:14:44.740 --> 01:14:47.720

    Oh, books is saying thank you for saying I hate Kenny

    1577

    01:14:48.420 --> 01:14:49.820

    and that I love Don.

    1578

    01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:50.880

    I do love Don.

    1579

    01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:51.940

    Look, the whole thing.

    1580

    01:14:52.460 --> 01:14:53.680

    Like, look, all I'm saying.

    1581

    01:14:54.020 --> 01:14:54.520

    I love Don too.

    1582

    01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:56.940

    I will go ahead and back that.

    1583

    01:14:57.100 --> 01:14:57.700

    I love Don.

    1584

    01:14:58.000 --> 01:14:58.740

    I love Kenny.

    1585

    01:14:59.160 --> 01:15:03.700

    And the thing about it is if Kenny had just given Don a little more respect,

    1586

    01:15:04.360 --> 01:15:05.560

    none of this would have happened.

    1587

    01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:06.780

    It is Kenny's fault.

    1588

    01:15:07.140 --> 01:15:09.700

    But even so, I couldn't forgive the man.

    1589

    01:15:10.120 --> 01:15:10.700

    You know what I mean?

    1590

    01:15:10.900 --> 01:15:11.760

    I love him still.

    1591

    01:15:12.740 --> 01:15:12.880

    Yeah.

    1592

    01:15:12.920 --> 01:15:14.200

    Can we just move on?

    1593

    01:15:14.360 --> 01:15:14.500

    Yeah.

    1594

    01:15:14.500 --> 01:15:15.800

    Can we just move on?

    1595

    01:15:17.580 --> 01:15:18.940

    Justin talking about Yota Tsuji.

    1596

    01:15:18.940 --> 01:15:21.080

    His move set isn't cohesive enough, in my opinion.

    1597

    01:15:21.260 --> 01:15:24.020

    It's as if a powerhouse luchador learned some high flying lucha.

    1598

    01:15:24.340 --> 01:15:26.600

    The only thing that makes sense is his gene blaster spear.

    1599

    01:15:27.700 --> 01:15:28.140

    Lanzarse.

    1600

    01:15:28.320 --> 01:15:29.040

    Lanzarse, eh?

    1601

    01:15:29.400 --> 01:15:29.920

    I don't know.

    1602

    01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:31.480

    Yeah, because of his height.

    1603

    01:15:32.140 --> 01:15:34.100

    He's almost awkward a little bit.

    1604

    01:15:34.180 --> 01:15:35.360

    He's like a football player.

    1605

    01:15:35.440 --> 01:15:36.680

    He's built like a football player.

    1606

    01:15:36.700 --> 01:15:38.280

    Yes, he really is.

    1607

    01:15:38.280 --> 01:15:39.700

    He played American football.

    1608

    01:15:40.280 --> 01:15:41.320

    Yeah, I thought I heard that.

    1609

    01:15:41.400 --> 01:15:41.840

    Yeah.

    1610

    01:15:42.020 --> 01:15:43.720

    I remember when he was Ta-Nehisi's young boy.

    1611

    01:15:44.400 --> 01:15:48.060

    I remember thinking he's way bigger than the other guys.

    1612

    01:15:48.060 --> 01:15:50.320

    He's a big dude.

    1613

    01:15:52.020 --> 01:15:54.280

    Justin says, Tsuji is an ace in training with the Young Lions.

    1614

    01:15:54.600 --> 01:15:54.800

    Acumen.

    1615

    01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:55.520

    This is my...

    1616

    01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:55.960

    Okay.

    1617

    01:15:56.080 --> 01:15:57.440

    That's my entire issue with him.

    1618

    01:15:57.860 --> 01:16:04.100

    Well, I think the thing is when Takeshita did that first G1, he exposed all the

    1619

    01:16:04.100 --> 01:16:05.060

    rising stars.

    1620

    01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:06.480

    He exposed Uminos.

    1621

    01:16:06.480 --> 01:16:06.980

    All of them.

    1622

    01:16:07.200 --> 01:16:09.960

    He exposed Tsuji really bad.

    1623

    01:16:11.020 --> 01:16:16.860

    Tsuji's the only one at that time that I felt like really raised his game to that

    1624

    01:16:16.860 --> 01:16:21.280

    next level after that, because I think Tsuji was the one who really understood he

    1625

    01:16:21.280 --> 01:16:22.000

    got exposed.

    1626

    01:16:24.480 --> 01:16:28.720

    But my guys, those Young Lion guys that I'm really into, are the two that are

    1627

    01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:34.260

    getting the least amount of push, which is Yuya Uemura and Oiwa.

    1628

    01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:35.660

    Those are my guys.

    1629

    01:16:36.740 --> 01:16:40.060

    And that's changing, particularly with shows.

    1630

    01:16:40.180 --> 01:16:41.480

    I watch just constantly.

    1631

    01:16:43.120 --> 01:16:44.480

    Yuya is loved.

    1632

    01:16:44.480 --> 01:16:47.420

    They had a couple of shows in his hometown.

    1633

    01:16:47.460 --> 01:16:49.240

    He got the main event.

    1634

    01:16:49.340 --> 01:16:51.280

    It was just awesome.

    1635

    01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:58.460

    I think Yuya is a better fit right now to lead because he has that charisma.

    1636

    01:16:58.560 --> 01:17:00.500

    Something is missing from Yoda.

    1637

    01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:05.880

    And I think Justin hit probably a male just a little bit perfectly.

    1638

    01:17:06.500 --> 01:17:10.480

    Blurry Lion says, if he loses the Carmen San Diego aesthetic, it doesn't call his

    1639

    01:17:10.480 --> 01:17:12.320

    move the fucking gene blast.

    1640

    01:17:12.320 --> 01:17:14.320

    Still be good, because that means jizz.

    1641

    01:17:18.580 --> 01:17:20.520

    Little life soup there for you.

    1642

    01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:22.000

    Tony Montoya, my cousin.

    1643

    01:17:22.200 --> 01:17:23.480

    Blady talking shit about my boot.

    1644

    01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:24.980

    Kenny Omega is not your boo.

    1645

    01:17:25.620 --> 01:17:26.180

    Okay, Tony.

    1646

    01:17:28.460 --> 01:17:30.400

    And then Book says shame.

    1647

    01:17:30.540 --> 01:17:31.540

    She says shame again.

    1648

    01:17:31.680 --> 01:17:32.480

    She says shame again.

    1649

    01:17:33.320 --> 01:17:37.720

    Justin, talk versus Uemura for the IWGP World Heavyweight title would have been

    1650

    01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:38.520

    a banger.

    1651

    01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:39.800

    Same for Oiwa.

    1652

    01:17:40.480 --> 01:17:41.000

    Agreed.

    1653

    01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:43.840

    Uemura has such Tanahashi vibes to me.

    1654

    01:17:44.540 --> 01:17:48.960

    They don't do the same moves, just like his demeanor is very similar to

    1655

    01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:50.080

    Tanahashi to me.

    1656

    01:17:51.160 --> 01:17:52.480

    And I'm a huge fan.

    1657

    01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:53.760

    Huge, huge fan.

    1658

    01:17:55.740 --> 01:17:58.220

    And I think Oiwa is right there.

    1659

    01:17:58.520 --> 01:17:59.960

    He's got the look already.

    1660

    01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:02.020

    He's getting so close.

    1661

    01:18:02.660 --> 01:18:07.680

    I'm really a fan of them more so than I am of Shota or Yoda.

    1662

    01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:11.180

    I really am in terms of long term prospects.

    1663

    01:18:11.180 --> 01:18:11.900

    I agree.

    1664

    01:18:12.320 --> 01:18:12.660

    I agree.

    1665

    01:18:12.820 --> 01:18:14.880

    And I think all four of them can get there.

    1666

    01:18:15.380 --> 01:18:17.780

    I still think Umino can get there, too.

    1667

    01:18:18.740 --> 01:18:20.720

    I still think Rin Narita can get there.

    1668

    01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:23.180

    Yeah, he's got to have a heel.

    1669

    01:18:23.280 --> 01:18:25.120

    Yeah, he's still young enough to get there.

    1670

    01:18:25.360 --> 01:18:26.720

    Yeah, he's still young enough.

    1671

    01:18:27.440 --> 01:18:28.260

    Gotta have a bad guy.

    1672

    01:18:28.540 --> 01:18:30.640

    Book's presumably talking about Kenny.

    1673

    01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:32.740

    Kenny claims him as her boo.

    1674

    01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:39.280

    Well, this has been a great chat about Yota Tsuji, but it's time to talk

    1675

    01:18:39.280 --> 01:18:41.260

    about something a little different.

    1676

    01:18:41.320 --> 01:18:43.280

    Ted Turner fucking died.

    1677

    01:18:44.020 --> 01:18:44.860

    Onto one.

    1678

    01:18:45.500 --> 01:18:49.340

    And I made a little video and put my thoughts together about it already.

    1679

    01:18:49.480 --> 01:18:52.900

    But I know that you grew up as a WCW kid.

    1680

    01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:54.580

    Yes, I did.

    1681

    01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:55.140

    Yeah.

    1682

    01:18:55.140 --> 01:19:04.280

    I grew up in a household that loved Dusty Rose and Rick Flair and Sting

    1683

    01:19:04.280 --> 01:19:08.080

    and all of those guys, not necessarily the other guys.

    1684

    01:19:09.160 --> 01:19:12.280

    I grew up watching WCW.

    1685

    01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:21.000

    So Ted Turner was a big part of my experience as a young teenager,

    1686

    01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:24.740

    a teenager and a young adult.

    1687

    01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:27.260

    And then poof, gone.

    1688

    01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.820

    I think he's a billionaire.

    1689

    01:19:32.900 --> 01:19:37.700

    There's likely, we always say there's no such thing as a good billionaire,

    1690

    01:19:38.200 --> 01:19:40.860

    but at least you can try to do something good with your money.

    1691

    01:19:41.140 --> 01:19:46.240

    He was a good old boy who loved wrestling, loved it, didn't understand it.

    1692

    01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:49.700

    The business side too much, but I knew he wanted it on his TV.

    1693

    01:19:49.700 --> 01:19:54.320

    I mean, we wouldn't have cable television having so many games on,

    1694

    01:19:54.360 --> 01:19:58.000

    if not for him building the Superstation to begin with.

    1695

    01:19:58.940 --> 01:20:04.680

    Well, and funny story, Ted Turner, you know, obviously grew up.

    1696

    01:20:05.340 --> 01:20:07.160

    I think his dad was a billboard guy.

    1697

    01:20:07.460 --> 01:20:11.220

    Like he owned billboards just all over the place.

    1698

    01:20:12.280 --> 01:20:15.260

    And so he was born into wealth.

    1699

    01:20:16.200 --> 01:20:19.040

    But he took that wealth and did so much more with it, obviously.

    1700

    01:20:19.040 --> 01:20:24.000

    He did change the world with it.

    1701

    01:20:24.080 --> 01:20:24.600

    Really did.

    1702

    01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:26.800

    Changed kids' lives with it.

    1703

    01:20:27.200 --> 01:20:28.060

    Changed my life.

    1704

    01:20:28.140 --> 01:20:28.980

    Point blank.

    1705

    01:20:29.320 --> 01:20:32.820

    I don't look at Ted Turner as a bad billionaire at all.

    1706

    01:20:32.860 --> 01:20:35.380

    Yeah, he's not a saint by any stretch.

    1707

    01:20:36.200 --> 01:20:38.060

    You know, I'm not going to...

    1708

    01:20:38.060 --> 01:20:41.100

    To be a billionaire, I think you got to do some bad things

    1709

    01:20:41.100 --> 01:20:43.100

    to get to be a billionaire, you know what I mean?

    1710

    01:20:44.100 --> 01:20:44.560

    Yes.

    1711

    01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:45.160

    Yeah.

    1712

    01:20:46.100 --> 01:20:52.600

    But as billionaires go, at least he tried to do something good.

    1713

    01:20:52.660 --> 01:20:53.260

    Yes.

    1714

    01:20:53.340 --> 01:20:53.980

    And different.

    1715

    01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:54.780

    Yeah.

    1716

    01:20:54.780 --> 01:20:56.840

    I don't know if you guys remember the Goodwill Games.

    1717

    01:20:56.900 --> 01:20:58.760

    That was a...

    1718

    01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:01.000

    I had to watch the Goodwill Games as a kid.

    1719

    01:21:01.160 --> 01:21:01.560

    Yes.

    1720

    01:21:01.860 --> 01:21:06.040

    And it was really something about unifying the world around sport.

    1721

    01:21:06.040 --> 01:21:06.580

    Right.

    1722

    01:21:07.160 --> 01:21:09.940

    And very similar to the Olympics, but not the Olympics.

    1723

    01:21:10.140 --> 01:21:12.780

    And then, you know, he owned the Falcons.

    1724

    01:21:12.780 --> 01:21:15.740

    He owned the Braves.

    1725

    01:21:15.780 --> 01:21:16.540

    He owned the Braves.

    1726

    01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:19.160

    I mean, how many Braves games did you see part of

    1727

    01:21:19.160 --> 01:21:20.920

    because you were waiting for WCW to come on?

    1728

    01:21:21.240 --> 01:21:23.900

    He's the reason that they have regional sports networks

    1729

    01:21:23.900 --> 01:21:27.980

    and regional sports networks have contracts with the teams

    1730

    01:21:27.980 --> 01:21:30.320

    to be shown on national television.

    1731

    01:21:30.340 --> 01:21:30.680

    Right.

    1732

    01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:33.860

    He did that shit because he turned the Braves national.

    1733

    01:21:34.780 --> 01:21:41.920

    And he also was the first guy to nationalize any pro wrestling at all.

    1734

    01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:42.360

    Okay.

    1735

    01:21:42.360 --> 01:21:46.940

    Way before Vince, it was Ted Turner with WTBS.

    1736

    01:21:47.380 --> 01:21:52.000

    Georgia Championship Wrestling was a national promotion in the 70s.

    1737

    01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:52.700

    Yes, it was.

    1738

    01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:55.540

    Because cable was so hard to get.

    1739

    01:21:55.620 --> 01:21:57.960

    That was the only reason it wasn't a big problem.

    1740

    01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:02.360

    But a lot of people don't know that Georgia didn't just run Georgia.

    1741

    01:22:02.440 --> 01:22:03.700

    They ran a lot in the South.

    1742

    01:22:03.740 --> 01:22:04.460

    They ran Alabama.

    1743

    01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:06.100

    They ran other places.

    1744

    01:22:06.480 --> 01:22:10.880

    But they also ran Ohio because that was an abandoned territory.

    1745

    01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:16.180

    And they were at least able to be watched on TV on TBS.

    1746

    01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:18.360

    So they ran up there.

    1747

    01:22:18.940 --> 01:22:21.520

    And that's Ole Anderson running that shit.

    1748

    01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:21.860

    Okay.

    1749

    01:22:21.920 --> 01:22:23.120

    Way back in the day.

    1750

    01:22:24.020 --> 01:22:28.800

    Then McMahon comes in and buys Georgia Championship Wrestling's time slot.

    1751

    01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:30.800

    That's when you get the Black Friday thing.

    1752

    01:22:31.180 --> 01:22:34.840

    And then McMahon has the programming for about eight months.

    1753

    01:22:35.380 --> 01:22:37.140

    Ted Turner goes, you got to get the fuck out of here.

    1754

    01:22:37.200 --> 01:22:38.620

    You said you were going to give me new programming.

    1755

    01:22:38.900 --> 01:22:40.140

    You're just showing reruns.

    1756

    01:22:40.140 --> 01:22:41.360

    Fuck you.

    1757

    01:22:41.620 --> 01:22:45.160

    Vince sells the time slot to Jim Crockett.

    1758

    01:22:45.260 --> 01:22:47.920

    And that's how Crockett gets his national exposure.

    1759

    01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:56.600

    And Vince uses the money, allegedly uses the money for one million dollars that he got from that sale to do WrestleMania.

    1760

    01:22:57.920 --> 01:23:04.560

    So Ted Turner is the nexus upon which pro wrestling turned for a very long time.

    1761

    01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:10.280

    Especially as it turns into what it stands to the West as it looks today.

    1762

    01:23:11.140 --> 01:23:19.680

    And I thought it was so fucking classy and so fucking cool for AEW to pay tribute to Ted the way they did.

    1763

    01:23:20.620 --> 01:23:23.440

    Again, we're not calling the man a saint.

    1764

    01:23:24.220 --> 01:23:26.060

    You know, I'm sure he did ugly things.

    1765

    01:23:26.080 --> 01:23:28.620

    I'm sure he had some ugly beliefs or whatever.

    1766

    01:23:29.060 --> 01:23:29.540

    Right.

    1767

    01:23:29.540 --> 01:23:35.060

    But man, he made a big difference in the world of professional wrestling.

    1768

    01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:39.040

    And he deserves to be memorialized as such.

    1769

    01:23:39.460 --> 01:23:45.620

    He probably belongs in every wrestling Hall of Fame, you know, because he changed the business.

    1770

    01:23:46.340 --> 01:23:47.200

    He's not Vince.

    1771

    01:23:47.280 --> 01:23:48.000

    That's all I know.

    1772

    01:23:48.280 --> 01:23:49.120

    Yeah, he ain't Vince.

    1773

    01:23:49.300 --> 01:23:49.880

    That's for sure.

    1774

    01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:52.120

    Yeah.

    1775

    01:23:54.080 --> 01:23:55.280

    Like, I swear in London.

    1776

    01:23:55.480 --> 01:23:56.880

    Oh, we're talking about Yoda real quick.

    1777

    01:23:56.880 --> 01:23:58.420

    This is from Blair Lynn.

    1778

    01:23:58.640 --> 01:23:59.220

    Like, I swear in London.

    1779

    01:23:59.280 --> 01:24:00.840

    He came through the crowd to the Death Riders theme.

    1780

    01:24:01.040 --> 01:24:02.240

    And like, everyone was hyped.

    1781

    01:24:02.260 --> 01:24:03.720

    That's where he was around 2023.

    1782

    01:24:04.220 --> 01:24:05.960

    He just seemed like he was on the up.

    1783

    01:24:06.120 --> 01:24:06.780

    A hundred percent.

    1784

    01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:07.180

    Shooter.

    1785

    01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:10.480

    Yes, shooter.

    1786

    01:24:10.900 --> 01:24:12.180

    That was when he was shooter.

    1787

    01:24:12.780 --> 01:24:17.660

    Those fucking promos that Moxley did with him when Moxley was in the G1.

    1788

    01:24:18.080 --> 01:24:18.940

    You can watch him now.

    1789

    01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:20.820

    They are still like gut busting.

    1790

    01:24:21.300 --> 01:24:21.700

    They're awesome.

    1791

    01:24:21.700 --> 01:24:22.480

    They're so fun.

    1792

    01:24:22.580 --> 01:24:23.900

    I'm not going to lie.

    1793

    01:24:23.900 --> 01:24:25.540

    I was thinking about that match.

    1794

    01:24:25.540 --> 01:24:31.100

    Just, you know, the Davis Queen, him, Moxley and Juice Robinson at the G1.

    1795

    01:24:31.400 --> 01:24:34.760

    And how after the match, he grabbed Shota.

    1796

    01:24:34.980 --> 01:24:36.880

    And that was the start of it all.

    1797

    01:24:36.940 --> 01:24:38.440

    And he claimed him as his young boy.

    1798

    01:24:38.740 --> 01:24:40.100

    He's like, you're my young boy.

    1799

    01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:43.880

    And Shooter would just be beaten up and just like could barely stand.

    1800

    01:24:43.980 --> 01:24:46.720

    And Moxley would be talking to him, slapping him on the back and stuff.

    1801

    01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:51.300

    That's some of Mox's best shit he ever did.

    1802

    01:24:51.300 --> 01:24:55.600

    Yeah, he ingratiated himself to the Japanese world in that G1.

    1803

    01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:56.720

    He absolutely did.

    1804

    01:24:57.240 --> 01:25:03.120

    I think a lot of that has to be understood with the partnership too,

    1805

    01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:09.800

    is the fact that Japan and New Japan, they take it very seriously.

    1806

    01:25:09.820 --> 01:25:14.140

    They take it to their heart and they do their traditions are very serious.

    1807

    01:25:15.040 --> 01:25:20.720

    So taking that into account, working with them and being able to honor those is just

    1808

    01:25:20.720 --> 01:25:23.000

    an exceptional, awesome achievement.

    1809

    01:25:23.180 --> 01:25:23.580

    Yeah.

    1810

    01:25:24.140 --> 01:25:24.300

    Yeah.

    1811

    01:25:24.380 --> 01:25:25.040

    For everybody.

    1812

    01:25:27.140 --> 01:25:30.940

    Larry Lyons said, as far as those kind of wealthy people go, he was one of the better ones.

    1813

    01:25:30.980 --> 01:25:31.380

    Totally.

    1814

    01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:34.640

    He was an old school, rich liberal, you know.

    1815

    01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:39.120

    All I know is, yeah, he was just an old school, rich liberal.

    1816

    01:25:39.220 --> 01:25:42.460

    But all I know is, just to make it for a simple conversation,

    1817

    01:25:43.080 --> 01:25:46.420

    I appreciate him for his contributions to professional wrestling.

    1818

    01:25:46.580 --> 01:25:46.980

    100%.

    1819

    01:25:46.980 --> 01:25:50.060

    Because I'm not the same person if that didn't happen.

    1820

    01:25:50.060 --> 01:25:50.660

    Yeah.

    1821

    01:25:50.900 --> 01:25:51.300

    Totally.

    1822

    01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:55.380

    I mean, can you imagine if Jim Crockett went out of business in 1988

    1823

    01:25:55.900 --> 01:26:00.780

    and it just buckled and went under and Ric Flair just goes to WWF

    1824

    01:26:00.780 --> 01:26:03.720

    and maybe the Four Horsemen go to the WWF,

    1825

    01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:07.900

    but most of that roster is just unleashed on the independents.

    1826

    01:26:08.720 --> 01:26:13.220

    And there's no national competition in the 90s.

    1827

    01:26:13.380 --> 01:26:18.140

    WWF may not be around, you know, like they may have gone out of business.

    1828

    01:26:18.900 --> 01:26:19.340

    Yeah.

    1829

    01:26:20.320 --> 01:26:20.760

    Yeah.

    1830

    01:26:21.540 --> 01:26:26.300

    Blair Lyons says, in a world of Musks, Trumps, Bezos's, McMahons, I'd take a Turner every time.

    1831

    01:26:26.580 --> 01:26:27.020

    Yeah.

    1832

    01:26:27.020 --> 01:26:30.760

    You know, so this is kind of a weird point to make.

    1833

    01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:35.560

    And it's not my main point here, but like, yeah, I think about this sometimes.

    1834

    01:26:36.220 --> 01:26:36.660

    Yeah.

    1835

    01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:42.800

    If I was like rich like that, why the fuck would I just want to do what every other rich guy does?

    1836

    01:26:42.900 --> 01:26:45.260

    That's what the Musks and all worry.

    1837

    01:26:45.820 --> 01:26:50.020

    I don't understand why they all do the same thing and they all do it together.

    1838

    01:26:50.660 --> 01:26:52.640

    I get tired of seeing each other.

    1839

    01:26:52.660 --> 01:26:55.240

    It's just a human centipede of rich guys.

    1840

    01:26:55.420 --> 01:26:55.800

    You know what I mean?

    1841

    01:26:55.900 --> 01:26:58.460

    Ted Turner was like, let's do something crazy.

    1842

    01:26:58.660 --> 01:26:59.200

    You know what I mean?

    1843

    01:26:59.440 --> 01:27:02.560

    Like, let's do some crazy ass shit.

    1844

    01:27:02.620 --> 01:27:04.200

    And he did do that, you know.

    1845

    01:27:04.300 --> 01:27:06.260

    He was like an oil salesman.

    1846

    01:27:07.040 --> 01:27:07.920

    Tony Montoya.

    1847

    01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:09.380

    Go Braves.

    1848

    01:27:10.200 --> 01:27:11.220

    They're having a bad year.

    1849

    01:27:11.500 --> 01:27:11.720

    Sorry.

    1850

    01:27:11.820 --> 01:27:12.400

    Go Marlins.

    1851

    01:27:12.400 --> 01:27:13.060

    Yeah.

    1852

    01:27:14.040 --> 01:27:15.200

    I like the Marlins.

    1853

    01:27:15.200 --> 01:27:17.060

    Hey, fucking shout out baseball.

    1854

    01:27:17.740 --> 01:27:19.120

    But shout out to my boys.

    1855

    01:27:19.340 --> 01:27:23.680

    The greatest three pitching, you know, triple threat of pitchers ever.

    1856

    01:27:23.900 --> 01:27:25.660

    Greg Maddux, Tom Glavin and John Smolls.

    1857

    01:27:25.860 --> 01:27:26.840

    Come on.

    1858

    01:27:27.060 --> 01:27:27.220

    Come on.

    1859

    01:27:27.240 --> 01:27:27.800

    You got to give me that.

    1860

    01:27:28.100 --> 01:27:29.140

    They were awesome.

    1861

    01:27:29.540 --> 01:27:32.060

    Greg Maddux might have been the greatest of all time.

    1862

    01:27:32.100 --> 01:27:32.760

    That's all they got.

    1863

    01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:34.000

    Yeah.

    1864

    01:27:34.480 --> 01:27:34.640

    Yeah.

    1865

    01:27:34.780 --> 01:27:38.640

    Plus they went to the playoffs way too many times not to win more World Series.

    1866

    01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:42.180

    Blair Lyon 7 Vince's life work was basically convincing the world that he

    1867

    01:27:42.180 --> 01:27:44.260

    changed the world of wrestling and that Ted did nothing.

    1868

    01:27:44.620 --> 01:27:48.340

    Whereas Ted was arguably leaving an even bigger legacy in wrestling events.

    1869

    01:27:49.100 --> 01:27:52.440

    And wrestling was just like a tiny part of what Ted did.

    1870

    01:27:53.100 --> 01:27:53.680

    You know what I mean?

    1871

    01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:59.260

    I mean fucking Jimmy is the only one that championed having

    1872

    01:27:59.260 --> 01:28:00.400

    wrestling on TV.

    1873

    01:28:00.400 --> 01:28:00.720

    Yeah.

    1874

    01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:01.700

    What's the end particularly?

    1875

    01:28:02.240 --> 01:28:02.760

    Yeah.

    1876

    01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:06.100

    They the younger generation that was coming in.

    1877

    01:28:06.100 --> 01:28:10.100

    Everybody wanted to get rid of WCW.

    1878

    01:28:10.820 --> 01:28:17.400

    It took a corporate merger in which he lost a lot of control of those companies for

    1879

    01:28:17.800 --> 01:28:19.000

    a WCW to die.

    1880

    01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:22.160

    You know, otherwise Ted was all in on it.

    1881

    01:28:22.280 --> 01:28:30.340

    You know, WCW would have never died if Ted would have had the time to find a

    1882

    01:28:30.340 --> 01:28:33.260

    way to ensure it lives on past him.

    1883

    01:28:33.260 --> 01:28:41.260

    But once he died or once he invested away and they were able to get out and

    1884

    01:28:41.820 --> 01:28:43.700

    sell it for a couple million bucks.

    1885

    01:28:43.700 --> 01:28:44.200

    Yep.

    1886

    01:28:45.120 --> 01:28:46.660

    Less than what Kevin Nash was making.

    1887

    01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:47.320

    Yeah.

    1888

    01:28:47.380 --> 01:28:48.490

    I mean, it's just God.

    1889

    01:28:49.260 --> 01:28:49.900

    Yeah, totally.

    1890

    01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:51.100

    That's great point.

    1891

    01:28:52.020 --> 01:28:58.260

    Now, one part that they don't ever say is that Vince agreed to buy a

    1892

    01:28:58.260 --> 01:29:01.400

    certain amount of advertising over a certain amount of years that amounted to

    1893

    01:29:01.400 --> 01:29:04.980

    more like 20 million dollars as part of that deal.

    1894

    01:29:05.060 --> 01:29:06.680

    But it barely matters.

    1895

    01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:09.220

    You know, it was still a pittance.

    1896

    01:29:10.620 --> 01:29:11.580

    All right.

    1897

    01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:15.700

    After hearing you guys talk about him, plus Giovanni's speech before the

    1898

    01:29:15.700 --> 01:29:19.440

    10 bell salute, I think that that was a genuine wrestling person and an

    1899

    01:29:19.440 --> 01:29:21.000

    advocate of the people backstage.

    1900

    01:29:21.040 --> 01:29:21.520

    RIP.

    1901

    01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:22.620

    He really was.

    1902

    01:29:22.920 --> 01:29:23.660

    He really was.

    1903

    01:29:23.780 --> 01:29:25.720

    You know, he had that part.

    1904

    01:29:26.260 --> 01:29:29.880

    And he, you know, when you think of this elite motherfucker, right, who

    1905

    01:29:29.880 --> 01:29:35.060

    like, you know, could just like sit in his ivory tower and never interact

    1906

    01:29:35.060 --> 01:29:37.080

    with the normies ever.

    1907

    01:29:37.420 --> 01:29:38.740

    He could have done just that.

    1908

    01:29:39.180 --> 01:29:40.640

    He wasn't a snob.

    1909

    01:29:40.660 --> 01:29:41.840

    He wasn't a pretentious asshole.

    1910

    01:29:41.980 --> 01:29:43.140

    He's like pro wrestling's awesome.

    1911

    01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:48.760

    He got Jimmy Carter watched wrestling on TBS, like as when he was the

    1912

    01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:49.520

    president.

    1913

    01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:52.280

    That's my type of president.

    1914

    01:29:52.620 --> 01:29:52.960

    Yeah.

    1915

    01:29:53.240 --> 01:29:53.760

    Yeah.

    1916

    01:29:54.200 --> 01:29:54.720

    OK.

    1917

    01:29:54.920 --> 01:29:56.620

    Last bit of speed run here.

    1918

    01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:58.120

    Darby Allen rules.

    1919

    01:29:58.120 --> 01:30:01.100

    He had another incredible match on Dynamite against Kevin Knight.

    1920

    01:30:01.460 --> 01:30:04.380

    The jet was fantastic match.

    1921

    01:30:05.120 --> 01:30:06.120

    Both guys looked amazing.

    1922

    01:30:07.040 --> 01:30:09.020

    Knight is moving up the card so fast.

    1923

    01:30:09.040 --> 01:30:12.800

    I say it every week, but it really is something to behold because it feels

    1924

    01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:13.200

    earned.

    1925

    01:30:13.720 --> 01:30:16.240

    It feels like Tony absolutely earned.

    1926

    01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:21.980

    I don't know what happened between the fact that I used to complain out

    1927

    01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:28.740

    on threads or to myself or to the room that Kevin Knight was not getting

    1928

    01:30:28.740 --> 01:30:31.160

    enough time into Japan even.

    1929

    01:30:31.920 --> 01:30:37.940

    And for it to be like to go from nothing to boom has been.

    1930

    01:30:39.980 --> 01:30:45.240

    It's been one of my favorite developments, especially this year.

    1931

    01:30:45.600 --> 01:30:48.040

    Final Destination says feel sorry for Speedball.

    1932

    01:30:48.160 --> 01:30:48.940

    He's being left behind.

    1933

    01:30:49.140 --> 01:30:50.200

    I don't think he is.

    1934

    01:30:50.200 --> 01:30:54.450

    I think there's something more that's going to happen between those two and

    1935

    01:30:55.140 --> 01:30:55.960

    somebody is going to go.

    1936

    01:30:56.240 --> 01:30:57.100

    It's one of them.

    1937

    01:30:57.100 --> 01:30:59.500

    I'm no longer convinced that it's going to be Kevin Knight.

    1938

    01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:03.200

    I was because of the storytelling at the time with swerve.

    1939

    01:31:03.940 --> 01:31:07.740

    But now I'm like it could go either way because Kevin Knight's really

    1940

    01:31:07.740 --> 01:31:08.300

    popular.

    1941

    01:31:09.200 --> 01:31:14.480

    So I think Speedball could turn honestly to be honest.

    1942

    01:31:14.600 --> 01:31:17.880

    Actually, it made me you made me just think of something.

    1943

    01:31:17.880 --> 01:31:24.600

    I don't know how anybody else felt, but watching the match with AR Fox and

    1944

    01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:29.540

    Speedball, I felt that AR Fox had to slow down for Speedball for most of

    1945

    01:31:29.540 --> 01:31:30.040

    that match.

    1946

    01:31:30.400 --> 01:31:31.080

    They seemed off.

    1947

    01:31:31.600 --> 01:31:33.520

    They seemed off of each other.

    1948

    01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:37.100

    I didn't see that, but I admit I wasn't beginning.

    1949

    01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:39.100

    I don't know why I felt that way.

    1950

    01:31:40.760 --> 01:31:44.860

    Then after this amazing match, they announced that Darby is going to be

    1951

    01:31:44.860 --> 01:31:47.860

    facing Kazuchika Okada next Wednesday on Dynamite.

    1952

    01:31:49.060 --> 01:31:51.860

    Darby Allen versus Kazuchika Okada.

    1953

    01:31:52.820 --> 01:31:53.840

    God bless you, Darby.

    1954

    01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:54.840

    On Dynamite.

    1955

    01:31:55.980 --> 01:31:56.900

    What the fuck?

    1956

    01:31:57.260 --> 01:31:59.460

    And I'm freaking out because this match with.

    1957

    01:31:59.700 --> 01:32:02.280

    Oh, and that's if.

    1958

    01:32:03.080 --> 01:32:05.580

    If he beats Pack this fucking Saturday.

    1959

    01:32:10.830 --> 01:32:12.850

    I don't know what this dude is doing.

    1960

    01:32:13.150 --> 01:32:14.670

    I love that little crazy white boy.

    1961

    01:32:14.850 --> 01:32:15.390

    I swear to God.

    1962

    01:32:15.470 --> 01:32:15.890

    I do too.

    1963

    01:32:16.290 --> 01:32:18.430

    You little fucking crazy white boy.

    1964

    01:32:18.430 --> 01:32:19.290

    That is right.

    1965

    01:32:19.430 --> 01:32:20.310

    Holy shit.

    1966

    01:32:20.990 --> 01:32:22.490

    So you got Darby.

    1967

    01:32:22.490 --> 01:32:26.850

    Allen is on one of the greatest world title runs I've ever seen, and

    1968

    01:32:26.850 --> 01:32:28.690

    he's been champion for like three weeks.

    1969

    01:32:29.790 --> 01:32:31.030

    It's a lot of right.

    1970

    01:32:31.150 --> 01:32:35.050

    It's a lot of fun to watch, you know, and making the most of every

    1971

    01:32:35.050 --> 01:32:38.710

    single second and every one of these matches has been a banger so far.

    1972

    01:32:38.730 --> 01:32:40.410

    You know, these next two are going to be bangers.

    1973

    01:32:41.010 --> 01:32:45.370

    So obviously they're trying to build up to this rematch with them.

    1974

    01:32:45.370 --> 01:32:48.610

    Who's been saying I want to rematch and Darby keeps saying, well,

    1975

    01:32:48.610 --> 01:32:50.250

    I need you to put something up.

    1976

    01:32:50.330 --> 01:32:53.570

    Well, MJF didn't win the TNT title, so he couldn't put that up.

    1977

    01:32:53.850 --> 01:32:55.410

    So he has to think of something else.

    1978

    01:32:55.410 --> 01:32:56.110

    I'll give you money.

    1979

    01:32:56.370 --> 01:32:56.850

    No.

    1980

    01:32:58.990 --> 01:32:59.810

    What do you want?

    1981

    01:33:00.530 --> 01:33:02.130

    I want your diamond ring.

    1982

    01:33:02.450 --> 01:33:03.770

    I'll give you the dynamite diamond ring.

    1983

    01:33:03.970 --> 01:33:07.310

    No, I want your fucking hair.

    1984

    01:33:07.490 --> 01:33:10.150

    And the reaction for Max was so great.

    1985

    01:33:10.890 --> 01:33:11.890

    Max doesn't even say yes.

    1986

    01:33:11.890 --> 01:33:13.890

    He just drops the mic and walks away.

    1987

    01:33:13.890 --> 01:33:16.710

    I'm so glad that he actually just left.

    1988

    01:33:16.710 --> 01:33:18.890

    He didn't say nothing.

    1989

    01:33:19.210 --> 01:33:25.910

    No, and just left it because everybody knows I have never seen somebody

    1990

    01:33:25.910 --> 01:33:30.130

    get a hair transplant who has been more transparent and used it for

    1991

    01:33:30.130 --> 01:33:33.070

    effect more than Max like ever.

    1992

    01:33:33.550 --> 01:33:37.070

    I have never seen a guy who admitted that.

    1993

    01:33:37.110 --> 01:33:38.470

    Yeah, I did.

    1994

    01:33:38.810 --> 01:33:39.150

    Yeah.

    1995

    01:33:39.490 --> 01:33:40.210

    Yeah.

    1996

    01:33:40.210 --> 01:33:41.470

    He did.

    1997

    01:33:42.170 --> 01:33:44.310

    You know, you see pictures of him from two or three years ago.

    1998

    01:33:44.350 --> 01:33:45.010

    It's pretty obvious.

    1999

    01:33:45.210 --> 01:33:45.530

    He did.

    2000

    01:33:45.730 --> 01:33:46.130

    It's obvious.

    2001

    01:33:46.490 --> 01:33:49.250

    And it looks great and everything.

    2002

    01:33:49.470 --> 01:33:52.490

    But like Kenny brought it up.

    2003

    01:33:52.770 --> 01:33:54.250

    Like, oh, the hair plugs look great.

    2004

    01:33:54.370 --> 01:33:57.390

    Max, you know, like, I mean, it's been brought up by a bunch of

    2005

    01:33:57.390 --> 01:33:59.450

    different people for a year, different people.

    2006

    01:33:59.490 --> 01:34:05.150

    And he's been OK with letting them use that and not getting pissed.

    2007

    01:34:05.210 --> 01:34:05.510

    Yeah.

    2008

    01:34:05.610 --> 01:34:07.630

    I'm like, I would be pissed.

    2009

    01:34:08.230 --> 01:34:08.430

    Yeah.

    2010

    01:34:08.430 --> 01:34:12.510

    I would actually be straight up pissed.

    2011

    01:34:12.830 --> 01:34:13.530

    Mm hmm.

    2012

    01:34:13.830 --> 01:34:14.670

    Mm hmm.

    2013

    01:34:14.890 --> 01:34:20.110

    Books and body slam says I will be there live, which lucky lady.

    2014

    01:34:20.630 --> 01:34:22.210

    Which show is that?

    2015

    01:34:22.290 --> 01:34:26.230

    Is that fairway to hell or is that fairway to hell is in Florida?

    2016

    01:34:27.250 --> 01:34:31.550

    And then and then next Wednesday must be in.

    2017

    01:34:31.550 --> 01:34:32.350

    Oh, it's in Carolina.

    2018

    01:34:32.530 --> 01:34:32.830

    Yeah.

    2019

    01:34:32.950 --> 01:34:33.290

    All right.

    2020

    01:34:33.350 --> 01:34:35.410

    So you're going to see Okada and Darby.

    2021

    01:34:35.410 --> 01:34:36.150

    They're not.

    2022

    01:34:36.330 --> 01:34:36.550

    Yeah.

    2023

    01:34:36.690 --> 01:34:37.090

    They're not.

    2024

    01:34:37.770 --> 01:34:38.790

    That's unfortunate.

    2025

    01:34:38.890 --> 01:34:42.110

    I come into Florida because if it was, I'd be there.

    2026

    01:34:42.270 --> 01:34:43.250

    Oh, yeah.

    2027

    01:34:43.470 --> 01:34:44.290

    Hell, yeah.

    2028

    01:34:44.730 --> 01:34:45.690

    Oh, my God.

    2029

    01:34:46.510 --> 01:34:46.750

    Yeah.

    2030

    01:34:47.030 --> 01:34:47.470

    Awesome.

    2031

    01:34:47.710 --> 01:34:48.090

    Yeah.

    2032

    01:34:48.910 --> 01:34:52.370

    Justin says him getting pushed is a great example on how to create stars.

    2033

    01:34:52.550 --> 01:34:55.990

    Being Buddy Wayne and Shabata trained helps a lot, too.

    2034

    01:34:56.290 --> 01:34:56.670

    Yeah.

    2035

    01:34:57.250 --> 01:35:00.690

    And just having the raw physical tools that Kevin Knight has.

    2036

    01:35:01.430 --> 01:35:01.490

    Yeah.

    2037

    01:35:01.930 --> 01:35:03.670

    Having the raw tools that Kevin Knight has.

    2038

    01:35:03.670 --> 01:35:05.290

    I was so lucky.

    2039

    01:35:05.470 --> 01:35:06.570

    I got to see him.

    2040

    01:35:06.930 --> 01:35:15.250

    It was like his last Indy run and him and fucking the time traveler did a little bit.

    2041

    01:35:16.170 --> 01:35:16.770

    Kishida.

    2042

    01:35:17.070 --> 01:35:21.690

    Shida and Kevin Knight team to get the Bollywood boys in a defy show.

    2043

    01:35:22.510 --> 01:35:23.790

    So much fun.

    2044

    01:35:23.910 --> 01:35:24.550

    Oh, my.

    2045

    01:35:24.730 --> 01:35:27.030

    Such a good acting together for years.

    2046

    01:35:27.230 --> 01:35:28.250

    I saw Kevin Knight.

    2047

    01:35:28.250 --> 01:35:29.770

    I'm like third row.

    2048

    01:35:29.950 --> 01:35:32.550

    OK, like I'm 10 feet away from the guy.

    2049

    01:35:32.550 --> 01:35:39.230

    I saw that man hit a standing drop kick and could not believe the fucking height he got.

    2050

    01:35:39.530 --> 01:35:40.830

    It was it was crazy.

    2051

    01:35:41.410 --> 01:35:41.870

    Crazy.

    2052

    01:35:42.910 --> 01:35:49.470

    That's what gets me between him and my homie with the rascals, the height they get.

    2053

    01:35:49.470 --> 01:35:50.110

    Oh, my God.

    2054

    01:35:50.210 --> 01:35:51.950

    Is it Myron that you're talking about?

    2055

    01:35:52.370 --> 01:35:52.950

    Myron Reed.

    2056

    01:35:53.490 --> 01:35:53.990

    Oh, my God.

    2057

    01:35:54.190 --> 01:35:54.670

    Unbelievable.

    2058

    01:35:55.170 --> 01:35:55.430

    Unbelievable.

    2059

    01:35:56.150 --> 01:36:00.410

    Tony Montoya cousin Speedball has an advantage knowing Taekwondo just like me.

    2060

    01:36:00.410 --> 01:36:04.130

    Yeah, you and yeah, you and people are just the same.

    2061

    01:36:04.510 --> 01:36:04.770

    Exactly.

    2062

    01:36:06.490 --> 01:36:10.310

    Whatever scare glow between the match and commentary.

    2063

    01:36:10.390 --> 01:36:12.730

    They told a hell of a story in the Kevin Knight and Darby match.

    2064

    01:36:12.770 --> 01:36:13.390

    They did.

    2065

    01:36:13.810 --> 01:36:14.310

    They did.

    2066

    01:36:14.330 --> 01:36:16.930

    That was a really, really good match.

    2067

    01:36:17.170 --> 01:36:24.790

    What Kevin Knight is that fucking clothesline to the table on Darby from the ropes.

    2068

    01:36:25.490 --> 01:36:27.350

    I just could not believe it.

    2069

    01:36:27.350 --> 01:36:33.490

    And I actually ended up rewinding and watching like half the match again because it was so awesome.

    2070

    01:36:33.490 --> 01:36:33.890

    Me too.

    2071

    01:36:33.890 --> 01:36:44.270

    Like right before that to the segment to that to right after it was just it was all connecting and flowing.

    2072

    01:36:44.330 --> 01:36:47.310

    And the way that flowed was so fantastic.

    2073

    01:36:47.310 --> 01:36:50.790

    That was that's out of this world.

    2074

    01:36:51.590 --> 01:36:55.710

    So Darby Darby says he's going to put the title up against Max's hair.

    2075

    01:36:56.650 --> 01:36:59.890

    Max didn't accept, but we know that's the match, right?

    2076

    01:37:00.070 --> 01:37:03.130

    Like they don't put that out there and Max doesn't do it.

    2077

    01:37:03.930 --> 01:37:09.910

    Does anyone think there's any chance that Darby beats Max?

    2078

    01:37:14.110 --> 01:37:15.410

    Because I do.

    2079

    01:37:16.650 --> 01:37:22.670

    I think there's been thinking about it too much yet.

    2080

    01:37:22.670 --> 01:37:36.670

    But I do think that he has a shot to do this because this is such a good little rivalry between them two.

    2081

    01:37:38.530 --> 01:37:50.550

    And having Darby as champion brings so many different challengers and such a different dynamic for a guy my size trying to go out there and win the world heavyweight title.

    2082

    01:37:50.550 --> 01:37:51.790

    You know what I'm saying?

    2083

    01:37:51.850 --> 01:37:52.810

    That's not normal.

    2084

    01:37:55.070 --> 01:37:58.290

    But I think he has a shot to do so.

    2085

    01:37:58.590 --> 01:38:04.850

    I think they're building up the him having so many matches is like there's no way he's going to be able to beat MJF.

    2086

    01:38:05.030 --> 01:38:11.950

    And that's we're like, hey, MJF, if you've got to cut that shit off, at least you know where you can go to get it done again.

    2087

    01:38:12.210 --> 01:38:13.430

    Yeah. Yeah.

    2088

    01:38:14.110 --> 01:38:15.450

    Scare Glow asks a great question.

    2089

    01:38:15.550 --> 01:38:17.270

    Can you shave hair plugs and do no damage?

    2090

    01:38:17.350 --> 01:38:18.610

    I have no idea.

    2091

    01:38:19.050 --> 01:38:22.890

    But Max is the kind of crazy fucker who would do it.

    2092

    01:38:23.030 --> 01:38:23.270

    Yeah.

    2093

    01:38:23.390 --> 01:38:26.170

    And maybe he's got a movie that he's got to go do where he's got to be.

    2094

    01:38:26.270 --> 01:38:32.150

    We have no problem with just embracing the fact that, you know, it looks good this way.

    2095

    01:38:34.450 --> 01:38:37.970

    Cousin says, yeah, Pops isn't afraid of using science to help his hair.

    2096

    01:38:37.970 --> 01:38:39.690

    What are you talking about?

    2097

    01:38:41.410 --> 01:38:42.210

    Dynamite. Yeah.

    2098

    01:38:42.210 --> 01:38:43.950

    OK, so books is going to Dynamite.

    2099

    01:38:44.090 --> 01:38:45.170

    Also speaking to Darby.

    2100

    01:38:45.290 --> 01:38:49.010

    Justin says, I can't wait for MJF to lose his championship to attempt to plus his hair.

    2101

    01:38:49.610 --> 01:38:50.150

    Yes.

    2102

    01:38:52.090 --> 01:38:54.270

    Justin question for you.

    2103

    01:38:54.670 --> 01:38:59.110

    Did you see Tana Hashi at this last at Don Taku?

    2104

    01:38:59.630 --> 01:39:09.370

    Did this man not go from looking like Hiroshi fucking Tana Hashi in January to looking like battered grandpa in like.

    2105

    01:39:10.210 --> 01:39:16.590

    15 minutes like the minute it was over, he like he just looks he just looks his age.

    2106

    01:39:16.590 --> 01:39:18.170

    I'm not saying he looks bad.

    2107

    01:39:18.870 --> 01:39:19.950

    The man can barely walk.

    2108

    01:39:20.150 --> 01:39:21.610

    He can barely walk.

    2109

    01:39:21.730 --> 01:39:23.450

    He's hunched over his back.

    2110

    01:39:23.450 --> 01:39:24.810

    His body is right.

    2111

    01:39:24.950 --> 01:39:31.210

    When you when you're not doing all that stuff, working out all day, every day, keeping that stuff loose, making the muscles work.

    2112

    01:39:31.210 --> 01:39:31.630

    Yeah.

    2113

    01:39:31.910 --> 01:39:34.810

    They start going, hey, how old are you?

    2114

    01:39:34.890 --> 01:39:35.270

    Really?

    2115

    01:39:35.690 --> 01:39:36.150

    OK.

    2116

    01:39:36.590 --> 01:39:37.710

    Settle into this.

    2117

    01:39:37.710 --> 01:39:40.570

    He's looking like how old is he?

    2118

    01:39:41.210 --> 01:39:42.850

    He's almost he's got to be 50.

    2119

    01:39:42.930 --> 01:39:43.430

    50.

    2120

    01:39:43.610 --> 01:39:45.010

    Yeah, it's got to be.

    2121

    01:39:45.190 --> 01:39:45.570

    Yeah.

    2122

    01:39:45.750 --> 01:39:51.110

    I just like with the haircut and everything, like now it's like, oh, homie is.

    2123

    01:39:51.850 --> 01:39:55.210

    Yeah, homie is looking a little old these days.

    2124

    01:39:55.470 --> 01:39:57.050

    But, you know, I mean.

    2125

    01:39:58.670 --> 01:39:59.790

    I love Tana Hashi.

    2126

    01:40:00.890 --> 01:40:04.310

    You and I did the Tana Hashi tribute episode, you know, like.

    2127

    01:40:04.570 --> 01:40:04.790

    Yes.

    2128

    01:40:05.490 --> 01:40:08.470

    There's one thing that's undefeated by the time.

    2129

    01:40:08.470 --> 01:40:09.910

    Yeah, 100 percent.

    2130

    01:40:10.070 --> 01:40:11.190

    Time does no jobs.

    2131

    01:40:11.450 --> 01:40:15.050

    My favorite and only quote from Bruce Prichard that I ever liked.

    2132

    01:40:16.210 --> 01:40:17.710

    Books of Body Slam says C.N.

    2133

    01:40:17.710 --> 01:40:19.630

    Okada and Darby makes up for no Kenny again.

    2134

    01:40:19.690 --> 01:40:22.350

    I know you have real bad luck with Kenny.

    2135

    01:40:23.270 --> 01:40:23.770

    BJ.

    2136

    01:40:26.210 --> 01:40:28.790

    I was like you ain't missing shit.

    2137

    01:40:29.070 --> 01:40:30.150

    BJ Dixon.

    2138

    01:40:30.610 --> 01:40:31.710

    Max might lose this match.

    2139

    01:40:31.710 --> 01:40:34.930

    He's been referencing a movie with Universal Studios in the last couple of

    2140

    01:40:34.930 --> 01:40:35.730

    interviews he's given.

    2141

    01:40:36.830 --> 01:40:37.310

    Yeah.

    2142

    01:40:37.850 --> 01:40:38.030

    Yeah.

    2143

    01:40:38.030 --> 01:40:40.410

    He has been talking about his opportunities.

    2144

    01:40:43.110 --> 01:40:44.190

    Justin says they better do this.

    2145

    01:40:44.190 --> 01:40:45.250

    I want his hair gone.

    2146

    01:40:46.290 --> 01:40:47.550

    It would be funny.

    2147

    01:40:47.850 --> 01:40:48.890

    It would be funny.

    2148

    01:40:49.610 --> 01:40:51.230

    Max would definitely go through with it.

    2149

    01:40:51.230 --> 01:40:54.750

    I don't if he wins, it's not because he wasn't willing to cut his hair.

    2150

    01:40:55.330 --> 01:40:55.810

    I.

    2151

    01:40:55.810 --> 01:40:56.030

    Yeah.

    2152

    01:40:56.110 --> 01:40:57.290

    That's a commitment.

    2153

    01:40:57.630 --> 01:40:58.290

    He does.

    2154

    01:40:58.390 --> 01:40:58.910

    He does.

    2155

    01:40:58.910 --> 01:41:00.310

    And he loves fucking A.W.

    2156

    01:41:00.370 --> 01:41:00.670

    man.

    2157

    01:41:01.030 --> 01:41:03.530

    That last title run he just had was better than his first one.

    2158

    01:41:03.530 --> 01:41:04.490

    It was half as long.

    2159

    01:41:05.010 --> 01:41:07.010

    Like it was a great title run.

    2160

    01:41:07.590 --> 01:41:08.390

    Tony Montoya.

    2161

    01:41:08.830 --> 01:41:09.050

    All right.

    2162

    01:41:09.150 --> 01:41:09.350

    All right.

    2163

    01:41:09.350 --> 01:41:10.110

    Never mind.

    2164

    01:41:11.190 --> 01:41:11.990

    That 10.

    2165

    01:41:12.450 --> 01:41:14.250

    Gary Parciak.

    2166

    01:41:15.090 --> 01:41:16.890

    Scare Glow thinks Darby's going to beat Max.

    2167

    01:41:17.050 --> 01:41:17.810

    Darby has the heart.

    2168

    01:41:17.870 --> 01:41:18.990

    Everyone is betting against him.

    2169

    01:41:19.010 --> 01:41:20.030

    The pop would be huge.

    2170

    01:41:20.110 --> 01:41:20.850

    It would be.

    2171

    01:41:20.950 --> 01:41:22.270

    It'd be a massive pop.

    2172

    01:41:22.990 --> 01:41:23.390

    Massive.

    2173

    01:41:23.610 --> 01:41:25.070

    In Max's hometown, though.

    2174

    01:41:27.030 --> 01:41:28.390

    There you go.

    2175

    01:41:28.910 --> 01:41:29.350

    Oof.

    2176

    01:41:29.350 --> 01:41:31.530

    Ta-Nehisi needs to start getting stem cells for his knees.

    2177

    01:41:31.550 --> 01:41:32.350

    He does.

    2178

    01:41:32.870 --> 01:41:33.870

    Just walk, brother.

    2179

    01:41:34.010 --> 01:41:34.430

    That's all.

    2180

    01:41:34.430 --> 01:41:34.890

    That's it.

    2181

    01:41:35.930 --> 01:41:38.390

    Oh, I want to get him a cane or something.

    2182

    01:41:39.410 --> 01:41:40.910

    Don't leave my boy alone.

    2183

    01:41:42.850 --> 01:41:45.130

    Justice says, sadly, he looks in suits.

    2184

    01:41:45.410 --> 01:41:45.610

    Yeah.

    2185

    01:41:45.610 --> 01:41:46.350

    Maybe that's it.

    2186

    01:41:46.370 --> 01:41:47.770

    I'm just not used to seeing him in a suit.

    2187

    01:41:47.910 --> 01:41:49.290

    I'm gonna watch y'all get old.

    2188

    01:41:50.210 --> 01:41:50.330

    Both.

    2189

    01:41:50.810 --> 01:41:52.830

    He looks younger than me currently.

    2190

    01:41:53.850 --> 01:41:54.290

    Specifically.

    2191

    01:41:54.630 --> 01:41:55.030

    All right.

    2192

    01:41:55.170 --> 01:41:56.870

    He's only like four years older than me.

    2193

    01:41:56.870 --> 01:41:57.150

    All right.

    2194

    01:41:57.150 --> 01:41:58.730

    He looks younger than I do.

    2195

    01:41:58.850 --> 01:41:59.550

    No question.

    2196

    01:41:59.870 --> 01:42:01.370

    He kicked my fucking ass.

    2197

    01:42:01.490 --> 01:42:02.110

    No question.

    2198

    01:42:02.670 --> 01:42:03.230

    Justin.

    2199

    01:42:03.250 --> 01:42:06.130

    But he's been modeling for athleisure in Japan and he looks great.

    2200

    01:42:06.250 --> 01:42:09.250

    Oh, he's a sexy man.

    2201

    01:42:09.590 --> 01:42:14.130

    Speaking of hair, I guess we need to heavily praise Dante Martin for no longer looking

    2202

    01:42:14.130 --> 01:42:15.350

    like Art Garfunkel.

    2203

    01:42:20.240 --> 01:42:21.140

    I agree.

    2204

    01:42:21.660 --> 01:42:24.100

    I love the haircut that he got.

    2205

    01:42:24.580 --> 01:42:25.520

    Dante's haircut.

    2206

    01:42:26.020 --> 01:42:27.120

    It looks like a grown man.

    2207

    01:42:27.720 --> 01:42:28.920

    And I like that.

    2208

    01:42:28.920 --> 01:42:31.960

    Not like this kid who doesn't know what he's trying to be.

    2209

    01:42:32.880 --> 01:42:34.280

    Like he looks like top flight.

    2210

    01:42:35.520 --> 01:42:37.860

    Just wrestling is an aesthetic business.

    2211

    01:42:38.020 --> 01:42:38.460

    Okay.

    2212

    01:42:38.640 --> 01:42:40.160

    It's just the way it is.

    2213

    01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:42.200

    It's an aesthetic business.

    2214

    01:42:43.200 --> 01:42:44.680

    That haircut made so much look.

    2215

    01:42:44.940 --> 01:42:45.640

    We'll get to you.

    2216

    01:42:45.880 --> 01:42:48.580

    It made so much of a difference just for him cutting the hair off.

    2217

    01:42:48.580 --> 01:42:49.960

    It just made such a difference.

    2218

    01:42:50.580 --> 01:42:51.740

    It looks like a man.

    2219

    01:42:51.860 --> 01:42:52.940

    He looks like it looks like a man.

    2220

    01:42:53.040 --> 01:42:54.080

    Looks like a grown ass man.

    2221

    01:42:54.260 --> 01:42:54.580

    Yeah.

    2222

    01:42:54.780 --> 01:42:55.640

    I want to see top flight.

    2223

    01:42:55.700 --> 01:42:56.760

    Go somewhere this year.

    2224

    01:42:56.760 --> 01:42:57.360

    You know.

    2225

    01:42:57.360 --> 01:42:59.460

    Top flight don't look like kids no more.

    2226

    01:42:59.760 --> 01:43:00.360

    That's right.

    2227

    01:43:01.040 --> 01:43:01.540

    Because they're not.

    2228

    01:43:01.540 --> 01:43:02.320

    They're not children.

    2229

    01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:03.600

    They are young.

    2230

    01:43:04.260 --> 01:43:05.100

    So I expect.

    2231

    01:43:05.260 --> 01:43:05.440

    Yeah.

    2232

    01:43:05.460 --> 01:43:06.320

    That's a good point.

    2233

    01:43:06.660 --> 01:43:10.360

    I expect them over the next few years to start really rising back up.

    2234

    01:43:10.400 --> 01:43:11.200

    Not this time.

    2235

    01:43:11.260 --> 01:43:12.340

    Anytime this year.

    2236

    01:43:13.100 --> 01:43:14.600

    But we got them under contract.

    2237

    01:43:14.960 --> 01:43:15.580

    Thank God.

    2238

    01:43:15.880 --> 01:43:16.420

    Do we.

    2239

    01:43:16.700 --> 01:43:18.660

    Do we like sky flight?

    2240

    01:43:20.220 --> 01:43:20.780

    Yes.

    2241

    01:43:20.780 --> 01:43:22.920

    Because I like my boy.

    2242

    01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:23.480

    Scorpio.

    2243

    01:43:23.760 --> 01:43:24.300

    I like.

    2244

    01:43:24.300 --> 01:43:26.640

    I love Scorpio sky.

    2245

    01:43:26.700 --> 01:43:27.980

    He's one of either.

    2246

    01:43:28.300 --> 01:43:33.440

    He is an original and deserves some some spot on the roster.

    2247

    01:43:33.580 --> 01:43:35.660

    I don't care what it is doing whatever you want.

    2248

    01:43:36.220 --> 01:43:38.380

    And so does.

    2249

    01:43:38.600 --> 01:43:39.600

    So does Vega.

    2250

    01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:40.480

    So does.

    2251

    01:43:40.960 --> 01:43:42.720

    So does the entire group.

    2252

    01:43:42.940 --> 01:43:46.300

    And they get a very good reception.

    2253

    01:43:46.940 --> 01:43:50.680

    When they were there at the Ring of Honor tapings.

    2254

    01:43:50.860 --> 01:43:51.460

    I know that.

    2255

    01:43:51.460 --> 01:43:52.040

    Mm hmm.

    2256

    01:43:52.180 --> 01:43:52.720

    Mm hmm.

    2257

    01:43:52.720 --> 01:43:53.360

    Yeah.

    2258

    01:43:53.360 --> 01:43:53.980

    Zeta Steel.

    2259

    01:43:54.220 --> 01:43:54.520

    I like.

    2260

    01:43:54.860 --> 01:43:56.520

    They're more Zeta Steel.

    2261

    01:43:56.740 --> 01:43:59.400

    I just really, really love her.

    2262

    01:43:59.800 --> 01:44:04.740

    And I think they're going to be in Ring of Honor for a while.

    2263

    01:44:05.300 --> 01:44:06.000

    They sit there.

    2264

    01:44:06.060 --> 01:44:06.760

    They really do.

    2265

    01:44:07.140 --> 01:44:07.240

    They do.

    2266

    01:44:07.240 --> 01:44:07.780

    No, they do.

    2267

    01:44:08.120 --> 01:44:09.020

    And they're young enough.

    2268

    01:44:09.040 --> 01:44:10.640

    You can keep them there for a while.

    2269

    01:44:11.020 --> 01:44:11.340

    All right.

    2270

    01:44:11.340 --> 01:44:14.800

    I got a couple of comments in the chat here and we're going to have to.

    2271

    01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:17.940

    We're going to have to wrap it up here, folks, because I got to mix this shit.

    2272

    01:44:17.940 --> 01:44:20.080

    So it's live tomorrow.

    2273

    01:44:21.480 --> 01:44:22.440

    Scare Glow.

    2274

    01:44:22.600 --> 01:44:24.460

    Beating Max in his hometown is even better.

    2275

    01:44:24.520 --> 01:44:25.680

    He beat Kenny in Canada.

    2276

    01:44:25.780 --> 01:44:26.520

    He deserves it.

    2277

    01:44:26.820 --> 01:44:28.460

    I was thinking the same thing.

    2278

    01:44:29.560 --> 01:44:30.280

    Thinking the same thing.

    2279

    01:44:30.500 --> 01:44:34.640

    Justin says Sky Flight needs an excursion to DDT or Dragon Gate or even

    2280

    01:44:34.640 --> 01:44:38.100

    NJPW versus several units just to rejuvenate.

    2281

    01:44:38.960 --> 01:44:41.060

    I would love to see them in World Tag League.

    2282

    01:44:42.020 --> 01:44:43.280

    I would love to see that.

    2283

    01:44:43.300 --> 01:44:47.820

    But I would like to see them more in Ring of Honor first.

    2284

    01:44:48.460 --> 01:44:54.700

    Let's let's get your feet underneath you and let's get some time where you're

    2285

    01:44:54.700 --> 01:44:59.140

    not injured for an extended period of time before we do that.

    2286

    01:44:59.240 --> 01:44:59.600

    Could they?

    2287

    01:44:59.880 --> 01:45:02.780

    Could they feud with grizzled young vets?

    2288

    01:45:03.140 --> 01:45:04.660

    That'd be a fun feud.

    2289

    01:45:05.060 --> 01:45:05.860

    That's a fun.

    2290

    01:45:06.100 --> 01:45:06.440

    Yeah.

    2291

    01:45:06.900 --> 01:45:07.660

    Those guys are fun.

    2292

    01:45:07.840 --> 01:45:08.720

    Clash of styles.

    2293

    01:45:08.940 --> 01:45:10.120

    Clash of aesthetics.

    2294

    01:45:11.380 --> 01:45:12.340

    Pretty good.

    2295

    01:45:12.440 --> 01:45:16.340

    You know, ghost white Englishmen versus, you know.

    2296

    01:45:19.380 --> 01:45:21.720

    You can't mistake who's who.

    2297

    01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:23.300

    That is for sure, bro.

    2298

    01:45:23.940 --> 01:45:27.580

    I mean, sometimes like I think you probably see grizzled young vets and you're

    2299

    01:45:27.580 --> 01:45:29.680

    like, who brought these ghouls here?

    2300

    01:45:29.780 --> 01:45:32.200

    You're like, what realm are you from, sir?

    2301

    01:45:32.360 --> 01:45:36.460

    And then then they're just like, it's just us the grizzled young vets.

    2302

    01:45:37.320 --> 01:45:37.800

    Okay.

    2303

    01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:43.140

    Well, Antoine, Raffaella, love having you here, buddy.

    2304

    01:45:43.360 --> 01:45:44.940

    And we're going to do this more.

    2305

    01:45:45.200 --> 01:45:45.900

    You know, we will.

    2306

    01:45:46.480 --> 01:45:47.160

    You know, we will.

    2307

    01:45:47.160 --> 01:45:49.480

    Love talking New Japan with you, man.

    2308

    01:45:49.980 --> 01:45:53.200

    I think New Japan and AW, the collaboration is.

    2309

    01:45:53.600 --> 01:45:54.000

    Yes.

    2310

    01:45:54.720 --> 01:46:00.840

    We don't get to talk enough about them in my opinion.

    2311

    01:46:01.820 --> 01:46:02.960

    And so I do.

    2312

    01:46:03.420 --> 01:46:03.780

    Yes.

    2313

    01:46:03.780 --> 01:46:04.260

    Yes.

    2314

    01:46:04.500 --> 01:46:05.240

    Well, I saw that.

    2315

    01:46:05.560 --> 01:46:09.400

    And New Japan is in an exciting position right now.

    2316

    01:46:09.500 --> 01:46:14.080

    You know, I really do love where they're going right now.

    2317

    01:46:14.080 --> 01:46:19.260

    And yes, you see the future happening kind of right before your eyes.

    2318

    01:46:19.260 --> 01:46:20.500

    It's pretty cool.

    2319

    01:46:21.480 --> 01:46:23.500

    We're past the scary part.

    2320

    01:46:23.900 --> 01:46:24.380

    Yes.

    2321

    01:46:24.700 --> 01:46:26.380

    Like what the hell happens next.

    2322

    01:46:26.580 --> 01:46:27.220

    Yeah, totally.

    2323

    01:46:30.780 --> 01:46:34.500

    Anyway, folks, if you haven't already, make sure you subscribe to our YouTube

    2324

    01:46:34.500 --> 01:46:35.300

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    2325

    01:46:35.460 --> 01:46:40.860

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    2326

    01:46:40.860 --> 01:46:42.100

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    01:46:42.100 --> 01:46:46.760

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    2328

    01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:49.840

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    2329

    01:46:49.940 --> 01:46:52.780

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    2330

    01:46:52.780 --> 01:46:54.260

    It tells people we're worth hearing.

    2331

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    We love you guys so much.

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    We appreciate your time so much.

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    Till next time.

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    I'm Blade Daily.

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    And I am Antoine Raphael.

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    Pro Wrestling forever.

I. Blade Daily

I co-host and produce “Sit Down Shut Up Mark Out!” and “The Hard Way with Brett Michelle” podcasts. 12/10 on the Muta Scale.

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