Sit Down Shut Up Mark Out Ep. 106
Darby Allin SHOCKS AEW, Squashes MJF?! Dynasty Fallout & WrestleMania Pressure
Darby Allin is your new AEW World Champion—and he didn’t just edge out MJF, he steamrolled him in one of the most shocking title changes in recent memory. On this episode of Sit Down Shut Up Mark Out, Blade Daily and Books and Bodyslams dig into the decision from every angle: was this a bold, necessary jolt to AEW’s main event scene, or a baffling call that undercuts one of the company’s biggest stars? With the result sending shockwaves through the fanbase, the conversation quickly turns to what this means for both men moving forward—and whether AEW just rewrote its own hierarchy overnight.
Adding to the chaos, Blade was live in the building and brings firsthand perspective on the crowd reactions, the energy in the arena, and how the moment felt in real time versus on screen. The duo also unpacks the broader fallout from Dynasty, examining booking patterns and momentum shifts coming out of the show. And looming over it all is the bigger industry question: has AEW raised the stakes just enough to put pressure on WWE heading into WrestleMania? Whether it was genius, madness, or something in between, this episode leans all the way into the debate.
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Hello everybody and welcome to yet another edition of sit down shut up mark out a pro wrestling podcast about pro wrestling
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I'm blade daily
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And I'm joined by my returning guest co-host
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Books and body slams books. Hello. Hello. You forgot our third co-host. Oh
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God
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What up blade? Oh
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My god, it's it's like a different voice than it was the last time and it's just as bad though
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Um
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Hello stuffed Kenny
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Wow books, how have you been
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I'm good, you know, no complaints. I mean, I I'm drinking iced coffee at 6 p.m. My time. So that should
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And did you not tape a podcast last night as well? Oh I did I had I was drinking coffee at
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11 p.m. Last night to stay awake Wow. Wow
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Disregard disregard what I just said, no, we we will always have an open forum here
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Okay, like we will always have an open forum
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Starting a paytex service like Mercedes. Oh
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You know just you know what you could probably attract the VIN cells and they just have you
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Degrade them like, you know, um, I'm not joking. I low-key joked about becoming a humiliation
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Humiliating themselves so much. Yeah. Well, they clearly enjoy being humiliated. I mean they
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Keep coming back for more
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Also last thing before we get started here, I just want to say that next week
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I will be taking the week off from sit down. Shut up mark out because I
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Am preparing to launch
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pro wrestling forever my new show with
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That I'm the co-host of with the host professor degree the toast of the third coast as he would annoyingly say and
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We are just in the final stages of getting everything put together
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But I want to put all my focus there so that when we do our first episode which is gonna happen a week from this Monday
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At the same same time that we do it here. So on Mondays, you'll have pro wrestling forever, which is a complete exploration
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exploration of wrestling fandom by two middle-aged white guys very unique I know and
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We are going to launch that a week from this Monday
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Like I said, that would be Monday April 27th
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If you could in addition to subscribing to us here, please go to our you the pro wrestling forever YouTube
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pro wrestling forever pot, so
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that is
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What's up my people but yeah, so I went to dynasty on
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Sunday a couple days went by then I went to
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There you go, there you go
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Doing some vanna shit right now that that's right. That's right
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Yeah, blurry line very correctly points out and I agree, you know middle-aged white men are such an underserved demographic
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It's about time someone catered to that niche. It's such an
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underserved
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Yeah, and like, you know
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Sometimes I wondered myself like what would a middle-aged white guy think about this and then I just asked myself because that's what I am
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so
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Yes, so I am old and go into these AEW shows two huge shows a pay-per-view and
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Then like I went to a combined dynamite and collision taping. That was probably only an hour shorter than the pay-per-view. Okay
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It kicked my ass but what a wonderful ass-kicking it was books
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How are you away my question because well, I know you and that I would be sleeping. I
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Was a zombie yesterday, okay
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And I was a zombie on Monday when I did tape that that review of dynasty with degree
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Which you can listen to on our channel anywhere you want. I'm gonna listen to it next. Oh, thank you books
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Thank you watching the Hornets play. Oh
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Nice nice. How are the Hornets doing this year?
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We're in the next round of the pre playoffs or so. I I don't know all I know is
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My favorite player from UNC is now on the Hornets
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Okay, okay, so I'm very happy
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Okay. All right. That's just like keeping it in the family kind of thing, huh? Yeah
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For dynasty I went with my best friend Matt
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We went and we we had a great time together in Vancouver for dynamite. I went alone solo mono
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mono
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Emono, but not facing anybody anyway, so I
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went and
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You know when you do this kind of stuff, you don't know
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What it's gonna be like like am I gonna be sitting in front or behind a gigantic person?
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What I did this time that was different was I forgot where my seats were and I forgot how much I paid for them
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Okay, so
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Got to the place. I went to my seat. I'm in the front row of the elevated section. Okay and
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Sitting right next to me is this guy
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Shout out to BJ. This guy ended up becoming a good buddy of mine
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Just over the course of the evening because we were just geeking the fuck out over AEW together the entire night
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Yeah, yeah, it's one of those just great wrestling moments where it's just you know
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you run into somebody who's as big of a dork as you and
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so shout out to BJ your your rad, dude and
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What I would do is I would go buy merch bring it back show him what I got and then he'd get jealous and go
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Buy the same thing. So it was pretty fun
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Did I did so he had I mean he had shit that I wish I had like he had the Bryan Danielson
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Jacket that I never got
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Me when I get that I will be paying overpriced for
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Probably probably yeah, I went and bought a bandito mask
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And I bought the the most wanted poster of bandito signed
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Haven't put it up, but I did put it in the frame. All right
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Yeah, so I'll be I'll be putting that up later today and then
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after
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Dynamite was over. I got like I need to buy more so I got up and I went and bought a Darby shirt cuz duh
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And I bought the for it's for the sickos shirt the the barbed wire one
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I mean, that's a great shirt like it is I I have the one from blood and guts
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That says it goes and
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Probably one of my favorite shirts ever
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Yeah, yeah. No, it's really good. There was that first one that they put out when they were in Philly
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That's a direct copy of an ECW shirt
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And then they put out an updated one that said it's for the sickos on the back and you know what's funny
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I think on whatnot
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Mr. Books just got me the Philly one. Oh
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Nice. Nice. Okay
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Fantastic skewered universe podcast in the house. What up, buddy? What up buddy? Good to have you with us
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we were just talking about the underserved demographic of middle-aged white men and
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You know how we should really consider them more in our programming
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So, yeah, I ended up sitting to the next of this cool dude, I got a bunch of cool merch
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AW kind of took a piece of my ass financially, but damn it
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AW can have my ass whenever you again
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It's time for AW to have like an affiliate program and start paying us for all the money and time and effort
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We put into this company, but I digress
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Yes, and and eventually I'm gonna take y'all on a little tour of my wrestling room
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Okay, I have a room dedicated solely to pro wrestling in my own
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okay, because I'm determined to be single for the rest of my life and
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Books you're raising you yes books you have quite a variety of merch
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I have those young bucks figures that you have back there that I only have Nick because that's
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I found them at a secondhand shop and they only had oh Nick. Oh
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Okay. Well, I'm talking about the
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The big rubber buttons. Oh, yeah, I have those too. I have those. Yeah, I have those
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I have that Nick as well
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Yeah, I also got a cool
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Make Foley book over the weekend and uh, oh my god, I'm people are gonna make fun of me
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I got a Dave Meltzer book a
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Dave Meltzer book. Yeah
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What is it about? Um, it's a it's like a history of like
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like
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deceased wrestlers, so oh
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Okay. Yeah
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Well, I think we're gonna post it cuz it was kind of cool like
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Some people have me
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Yeah, yeah, totally, but Dave Meltzer is a great resource for stuff like that. Yeah, like modern-day opinions, but
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He's he's very weird about women's wrestling and he's very not in the breaking news business anymore
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And he should stay away from it because he's been on the lot
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Like let let Sean Ross app deal with that shit and then you be the historical perspective, you know
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Much in the same way people would say like Jim Cornett's a great historian
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It sucks that he's such an asshole Dave isn't an asshole like that and he's a great historian. So
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He's very much worth it for that
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I subscribe to the Observer for a very long time and
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Brian Alvarez drove me away. Sorry. I know some people who are friends with them, but Brian you're a miserable fuck. Okay
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so
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Having been fresh off dynasty, you know you go to a pay-per-view
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You see big things happen. You're like, well, let's see if big things happen at this dynamite collision, right?
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Mm-hmm. I got to say it was just as much fun and maybe even a little more fun than dynasty
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So let's get to that. Shall we? Yeah
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Books last year in the run-up to all-in a ton of people thought Darby was going to disappear
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To train to climb Mount Everest and then climb it and then come back and then win the AEW men's world title
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from John Moxley
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Not me. I always thought that sounded insane
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Like you don't just come back from Mount Everest and just like go
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Not after the work hangman was doing right, right and so
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So I think that
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They made the correct call to have Darby factor into the match but not you know be in the match, you know
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So, you know, he came back to make his presence known
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But that was it and then
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After Moxley dropped the belt him and this is where I first thought the death writers were gonna break up
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I'm like, ooh, this is genius
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So they're gonna have hangman take the belt off Moxley, but Darby's the one who's gonna take out the death writers, right?
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Insane and sing and so
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That seemed like a really sensible plan
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No
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Darby did beat mox
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A couple I think a couple times maybe at least well at least once they had some really gross matches against each other
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Okay, Claudio press land him
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from the ring onto a table at one point
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and
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Mox and Darby, you know, he was drowning Darby in a fish tank at one point
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I was like if that fish tank breaks, you're both gonna get cut so bad
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These two are psychos and they should be kept away from each other is what I've realized
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Because they will kill each other and then themselves
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So yeah
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then Darbs
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After the mox thing Darbs got a bit sidelined with like Gabe kid
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and it kind of felt like he was doing side quests for a while with the other death writers and then
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He just kind of seemed like he was on ice. Maybe you know, just not you know
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Not on you know, not on
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My cousin Tony's in the chat blade did you see that match it was good. Oh Tony. Um, okay. Anyway
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All right
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So then it seemed like he was kind of on ice and then a few weeks before dynasty just kind of randomly Darby
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Starts calling out MJF and saying he's coming for the belt. Well, this is while Kenny is also coming for the belt
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This is while swerve was in the running at least to be considered for the belt
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This is when they're talking about Andrade being in the running for the belt
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and MJF makes this deal with
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Darby that essentially if he can beat his chosen member of the Don Callis family
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That Darby will get a world title shot. Now. That was my one complaint about this whole thing is MJF made the stipulation
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That's already a post Kenny stipulation
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And even though Kenny said he would honor the stipulation
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I'm like, yeah, but still like MJF making the deal kind of you usually have the guy who makes the deal
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Finish the deal. You know what? I mean, that's just wrestling 101 shit
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so I felt like that was a bit of a
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Bit of a spoiler
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but they still ended up making me feel like Kenny was gonna win and then he didn't and then my hopes were crushed and
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I was deflated and ruined as a human being for several days after that books
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Mr. I love Don
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Talking to me. Yeah, I
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Mean, yeah, I love Don but I mean that doesn't mean I love don't love Kenny
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Don't even have anything to do with that match. Okay, I was written for Kenny against MJF
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Just hoping he wouldn't be disrespectful to Don afterwards. So I didn't have to root against him, you know
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whoo
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Slim Pickens in the chat. What's up, buddy? It's been a minute. Glad to see you
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Glad to see you see your name in the chat
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I
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Bleary line sets. I don't didn't mind it too much because in the mentality of MJF
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He already thinks he's won the match
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So wouldn't mind make a deals that assume he won good point fair point fair play
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It wasn't a bit anyway, you know, it wasn't like a huge deal to me either
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But I felt like it served as a bit of a spoiler
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Darby because he wants to challenge MJF to then they had a match and Darby beat Andrade and then Andrade
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Because he he shook Darby's hand, you know, did the you know, hey this guy, you know
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Did the point the triple H point at him and
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Didn't what I didn't hear when I was at dynasty
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They didn't show was that Renee interviewed Darby during the pay-per-view and he said I want
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Whoever wins this match. I want you at dynamite. Yeah, so I didn't know that they had made that match
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After I got home hella late like two in the morning
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What do I do? Well, I had missed one match
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So I made sure to go watch it like a dutiful podcaster, right?
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Because I don't want to review a show where I didn't see every goddamn minute of that show
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which was the Jericho match which I did go get merged during but
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And I was like, wait a minute
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They're they're doing Darby versus MJF in Everett, which I'm a Washingtonian
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I know the difference between Everett and Seattle. Okay, like Everett is where Darby trained
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Okay, that is like his actual home base
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Yeah, the Buddy Wayne Academy was based in Everett, right?
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So that was wild. Okay. I'm like that is interesting. That is very interesting. Also, it's WrestleMania week
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Even more interesting if they were gonna do something crazy
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They would be a Wednesday before WrestleMania
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So I that got me humming I was like I think there's a pretty decent chance that Darby could win this
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Yeah, so a whole bunch of experts saying
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Don't worry guys. He's not gonna win. It's a whole bunch of people saying Darby shouldn't win it. Mm-hmm. I
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Didn't feel that Darby shouldn't win it, but I definitely felt like they had not
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Explained Darby well enough if he was going to win
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Yeah, I mean like I don't know Darby well enough. What I do know is that he's crazy
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That he will die for AEW that he put a flag on Mount Everest
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That's he climbed Mount Everest. I know that he climbed Mount Everest. I know that he climbed Mount Everest as well. And then um,
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I've watched him just do a ton of crazy shit over the years, right? Oh, no, he's gonna be
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Also, he climbed Mount Everest. Did you hear that? I said he's gonna
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Okay. Okay. Oh, I see. Okay. All right, you know the green little
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Guy that's like made of rubber. I know who Gumby is
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I'm already there. I mean worried me there
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I definitely know who Gumby is and then it's like horse pokey. Did I age myself out?
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No, I don't I don't really think so. I mean you're younger than me. So I consider you young
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And really when I look at the analytics of this our listenership there
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They're a little younger than me, but they're they're around my age ish
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Before we get too deep, let's let's just see what the people are saying slim pick and says good to see y'all
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Hope the week has treated you guys. Well, and may I just say congrats to our new champ
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Secured universe. I think even if Andrade stays a heel nobody's going to boom. Nobody's gonna do Andrade. That gimmick is just a baby face gimmick
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Love it. The ladies love Andrade
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Bleary line TK needs to license by Santana and Rob Thomas for Andrade's baby. Okay. All right, get out
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Leave like I I don't I have that song in my head now bleary line there. That's not fair
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Scare glow Darby squashing MJF totally makes sense
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MJF can't handle a match that he doesn't have time to prepare for you can't handle being treated the way he treats others treat
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Others like they treat you
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Great point. I wish I read that later
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But we we're getting there and and you're talking about a lot of things that I want to talk about okay
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This is the main topic of today's show
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Yeah
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Devil dinosaur says I did not catch MJF saying he was going dark that was on social media after
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After the pay-per-view so that was like on Instagram. I saw that
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Final destination says still don't know how I feel about Darby winning fair fair
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Tony my cousin again in what part of Seattle is ever in blades is it next to okay. All right
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Tony Montoya the Roman Coliseum is younger than you are all right. Oh wow. I didn't know you were that old
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Slim Pickens thing was such a great word for him though. Very true. Very true. Great mentor and a final destination
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How do we get to MJF versus Osprey though for the title? They have already fought over titles
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I would say and they have already fought at all in over titles and I don't think it's gonna be Osprey verse MJF
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I don't think it is definitely after what happened this week. That's not where this is going
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No, and and
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We'll get way deeper into this but I've had a great title reign
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He had a great title reign and he did a much better job honestly in this one than he did in the last one
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yeah, I really love the shorter reigns like maybe not as quick as the
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Love I love the shorter reigns
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Changing hands every time they're defended. I mean, it's also just kind of funny and I kind of wish they'd keep doing it at this point
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New Japan does shit like that sometimes where they have it like the never open weight title
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I remember at one point had never been defended more than like three times successfully
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But but yeah, no, I I think the Trito's titles are great for shit like that, you know, I
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Love having them bounce around
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Anyway, um
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So, you know, I saw people saying there's no way Darby's gonna win on TV when MJF had just beaten Kenny
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That was another thing. I heard people saying
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But while I'm sitting here talking to my new friend BJ, right?
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While we're waiting for this show to start they showed that really intense interview Renee did with Darby on YouTube
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and then she did it the day before we were there and
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This was a long interview and Darby basically said all the stuff he said to Max
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He said it to Renee as well, but in a much more like sober reflective way
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And at that point me and BJ looked at each other and we're like, oh he's winning. He is winning for sure
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His promo when he cried I was like this is way too raw
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Mm-hmm. I
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It kind of gave it away in that moment
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But I also loved it because it you can just tell how much it meant to him
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so mm-hmm, I
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think that
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This episode of dynamite
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Was a master class in telling a story throughout the episode
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Showed that they understood people's reservations about Darby
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Yes being the champion and they tried to address all of them as thoroughly as possible before that match
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So show starts I
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Thought it was hilarious that MJF didn't know that one Andrade had lost and two didn't know that Darby had already challenged him and
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That the match was gonna happen right then
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now I
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Know some people have some feelings about the actual match they had but I would not have liked if they made MJF
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wrestle in his street clothes
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Okay, I wouldn't have liked that but
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What happens instead
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As MJF comes out he knows that he's fucked right? He knows he's you know, so he's trying to talk tough
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He's pulling a Trump basically, which is like make a lot of threats out of your ass
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So that maybe they'll believe you and back off, right? He's like I'll sue this promotion
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I'll sue Aubrey Edwards. I'll sue Darby Allen. I'll sue every goddamn fan in this arena
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I'll sue, you know
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He's
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What I was so struck by though was when he says
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He kind of calms down a little bit and he you you know, MJF and Darby know each other
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You know, they know each other in real life. Well
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They wrestled each other on the indies a bunch that headlocked takeover thing dates back to before AEW
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Oh, yeah, this is like an ongoing thing between them, which is yes just love the
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Actual long-term storytelling these yo shit loads of lore
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I've known for two three years that someday Darby Allen will be MJF with a headlock takeover. Mm-hmm, but
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When a bleary line predicted it, I mean I will give him that he straight-up said
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This is gonna end in a headlock takeover like to on Monday
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like he called it and he was 100% right, but
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What I loved was when Max goes but Darby and he starts talking to him more like he like two people who know each other
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He says bud, you're just not ready. And as soon as he says that I think
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That actually triggered something in Darby that really hurts him, you know
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And I think what we saw was more emotion than Darby actually planned to release. Oh, yeah, like
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It was all it hurt it hurt him when MJF said that it hurt him
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Because he's heard that for I've said that I mean a lot of people have said it
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I said it last year after all and I don't think he's ready. Yeah, and I might have thought that on
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Monday when I heard about there a Monday at 1 in the morning when I heard about this
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Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm already changed him his this segment changed my mind
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yep, and so Darby gets so emotional and
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Says, you know, I will I will you know kill myself for this company and I'm like Darby we know we know that part
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You know, but you know, this guy has been homeless at times, you know, so he could train
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AR Fox let him live in his fucking school so that he wouldn't have to sleep in his car
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You know like this is a guy who put it all on the line and when he said
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When he said essentially I said I wouldn't change one thing
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I will either succeed or fail as Darby Allen and I here I am and I haven't changed one thing if I'm not
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Ready now, I'll never be ready
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AW wanted you to put it together. They wanted you to know it if you watch this entire show
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You're gonna see something incredibly special. Yeah, right
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So by this point it's not a mystery right now
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They're just trying to make it compelling enough for you to want to see it, right?
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Made you really want the underdog and even though you knew at this point the underdog was going to win
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It gave you this like like I had hope I
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Was like I kept trying to talk myself out of it. Like no, it's not gonna happen there
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It's way too obvious. Like there's no way they're gonna make it this obvious
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Right
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Let's see what what people are saying here
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Horrible says also the squash was poetic MJF's attitude upon arriving at dynamite was telling he rested on his laurels. Absolutely
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And if his ego is what's gonna keep costing him the title
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Yes. Oh, I mean, that's just character building. That's universe
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But degree and I were talking about
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So, right, right, they don't tell stories or have characters, right?
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Totally a devil dinosaur Darby crying and giving it away actually managed to amp up the excitement. Exactly
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Yeah, like you were supposed to figure it out
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Larry lion MJF only loses squashes. I think it's kind of a defined point of his character Wardlow Brody Darby exactly
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Exactly and slim pick and agreed with that one
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Darby was so emotional that he kind of swirled the result. I mean, yes, but again, I think that was the point
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The scare glow nobody believes in AW more than Darby therefore we believe in him
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Since this guy got put with sting
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He has been built for us to believe that one day. Mm-hmm. He will be a main eventer
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Okay, I'm not sure if it was supposed to happen while Sting was an active competitor, but it's happening now
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Darby is a W he that's what he W stands for and
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How he W presents itself? So I don't think there's anyone more fitting
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Right now I'm in the man climbed Everest and put an a W flag on there
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I think he might love the company more than the people who started the company
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Yeah, it's very possible. It's very possible. So let me pick a great question
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Would you guys say you had more hope in Darby winning compared to the cleaner at dynasty? Yeah, I'm gonna say yes because I thought
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Realistically, I didn't think Kenny like on paper. It didn't make sense for Kenny to win
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on such a short build
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Most of the a paper of you really hadn't been built built, you know
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So they weren't like gonna have a record number of buys or anything, you know
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Kenny's gonna win at a bit at like a with a lot of build
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Right, right and I have my own theory now, so I do as well. I do as well
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Horrible the devil beat the main character in the god of pro wrestling, but he couldn't beat death at the peak of his arrogance
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Mjf's loss is the consequence of his hubris. I laughed and clapped so hard
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So well said yeah, Jesus Christ. That is so well said my god
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RK Rivera theory time dump it on us buddy. Dump it on us. So I want to hear everybody's theories
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We'll read all of them, but I'll talk while we wait for more to come in
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So, yeah
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what
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What happened during this show was nothing short of a master class in storytelling and build so
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So after the in-ring promo, I pretty much knew you know
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I mean there could have been a shadow of a doubt, but I'm like look Tony's been booking for heat so hard. Mm-hmm
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that
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That like you've got to like
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You can't keep doing this. You can't have Darby lose in Everett, you know
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He has now had media training and marketing classes because this was a marketing goal like this was oh
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From a marketing professional this was
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Such a great way to do it. Yes. Yes. And so I think
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You know, this was this was absolutely a way to
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Do a make-good huge feel-good moment, right?
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Mm-hmm, and this is where booking for heat is good, right?
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Because like everybody wants what they want right in the moment, you know, I do we all do right?
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We don't want to wait till next week. We don't want to wait till next month
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We want our guy or our girl or whatever to win, right when we want him to win and
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This just shows that when you booked for the heat when you had all the Canadians lose
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Basically except Kyle O'Reilly at dynasty that there was something in the offing, you know
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And it was because there was gonna be a huge release very soon
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Yeah, so I did see someone say that when Darby was crying
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He reminded them of Jesse Pinkman for Breaking Bad, which if I'm being honest, I have always thought about Darby
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Just it's the way he talks and his size. That's it
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That's he's skinny any and he talks kind of like Jesse Pinkman, but I just thought that was funny
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Okay, so Darby said at the end of that promo he's like, you know
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You know, so MJF says he's not gonna do it then Danielson said I'm getting I was just told by Tony Khan
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He agrees with MJF. He shouldn't have to defend the belt in such a rush
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But he's gonna give you all the time you need which is till the end of the show
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This will be the main event instead and we all go ape shit, right? Like and I know while he's talking
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00:32:37.700 --> 00:32:42.320
There's no fucking way. They're calling this match off, you know, like yeah, there's no fucking way
427
00:32:42.320 --> 00:32:49.380
So the moment MJF threatened to sue Tony Khan, you know, Tony Khan was like little shit's right, but it's happening tonight
428
00:32:49.380 --> 00:32:51.200
You don't try to sue me
429
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:52.960
Right, right
430
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:59.540
So then Darby says I'm good and I'm gonna beat you with a headlocked takeover, right?
431
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.900
And I was the first time I had doubts though. I was like, oh I
432
00:33:04.900 --> 00:33:05.720
was like
433
00:33:06.450 --> 00:33:08.120
You maybe should not have said
434
00:33:09.140 --> 00:33:16.220
Let me just say as a Northwest wrestling fan. Okay, when I was a kid there was no indie wrestling out here at all
435
00:33:16.220 --> 00:33:18.900
Okay, because our laws were super
436
00:33:20.820 --> 00:33:21.940
Regressive towards
437
00:33:21.940 --> 00:33:30.140
Taxing wrestling events and so WWE would come out once or twice a year and that's it. There was nothing then
438
00:33:30.140 --> 00:33:33.440
it wasn't till like 2015 maybe that like
439
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:39.480
A company called three two one battle started going there was a lucha organization for a little while
440
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:44.360
They had they were doing it before the law changed even and you they couldn't charge an admission
441
00:33:44.360 --> 00:33:46.880
So they you can only tip them
442
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:52.620
To go watch these people do lucha libre and then defy came around in like
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00:33:52.620 --> 00:33:55.560
2017 and that's where I saw Darby the first time
444
00:33:56.120 --> 00:34:00.500
But as somebody who grew up with no wrestling being a massive wrestling fan
445
00:34:01.940 --> 00:34:08.600
This was special because it's Bryan Danielson doing the announcement right Aubrey Edwards is in the ring
446
00:34:08.600 --> 00:34:13.780
you know and she's somebody that I saw when her name was girl Hebner, you know and
447
00:34:13.780 --> 00:34:15.159
Darby Allen
448
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:21.280
We're all involved in one of the biggest segments in AEW history. I thought that was so insane and special
449
00:34:22.120 --> 00:34:28.280
And then throughout the rest of the show. They do a ton of segments explaining the rise of Darby is history with MJF then
450
00:34:29.860 --> 00:34:33.420
Leading up to the main event my god
451
00:34:34.139 --> 00:34:39.139
What the fucking fuck? Okay. That's all I got for you. What the fucking fuck
452
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:45.040
Darby's talking to Renee. He looks kind of like intense, but almost maybe a little nervous and scared, right?
453
00:34:46.340 --> 00:34:51.080
And he walks up and he bumps into fucking sting it's sting
454
00:34:52.639 --> 00:35:03.020
Why I knew I was like, yep. Nope. Nope. This is it Darby's winning they have white-haired white beard sting, right and
455
00:35:03.020 --> 00:35:05.080
Stings like you got this man. Go get him
456
00:35:05.080 --> 00:35:10.940
Go do what you do and Darby looks at him and very nervously kind of like looking to him for approval almost says
457
00:35:10.940 --> 00:35:13.220
It's showtime
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00:35:13.220 --> 00:35:18.520
Sting goes no, it's not showtime. It's your time. I cried
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00:35:19.940 --> 00:35:21.220
what I
460
00:35:21.220 --> 00:35:23.020
Cried I was like
461
00:35:24.100 --> 00:35:28.220
Why are you doing this to me AEW? I already had a mental break
462
00:35:28.220 --> 00:35:32.360
I had mental breakdown earlier in the night now you're giving me another one. Thanks
463
00:35:33.540 --> 00:35:34.180
it
464
00:35:34.180 --> 00:35:35.860
was so
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00:35:35.860 --> 00:35:41.240
crazy when he said that stings said so little and yet said the
466
00:35:41.240 --> 00:35:47.040
Most vital thing you could possibly say in that moment with not one
467
00:35:48.420 --> 00:35:49.860
Extra word
468
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:56.120
And not one unnecessary vowel was spoken in that entire thing and
469
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:03.640
When he said it's not showtime. It's your time. This isn't about me. You're not you're not the next me
470
00:36:03.640 --> 00:36:05.580
You're the first you yeah
471
00:36:07.080 --> 00:36:11.980
Sting is the wrestling dad of everyone sting is all of our dad
472
00:36:11.980 --> 00:36:19.100
Okay, that we that we needed that we wanted right to say the thing that we needed to hear. I
473
00:36:19.100 --> 00:36:24.420
Had tears in my eyes, like seriously and my dad and I get along great, but like
474
00:36:24.420 --> 00:36:32.220
What an amazing moment that was so powerful. I got chills explaining that moment, you know, like
475
00:36:32.220 --> 00:36:40.880
Goddamn man, that that's just real shit that just you could take something so real from that, you know and
476
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.040
And the building was going nuts when he said that, you know
477
00:36:45.860 --> 00:36:51.600
So there's nothing more. There's nothing left to do Darby's music hits were clapping in time
478
00:36:52.540 --> 00:36:54.140
Darby Darby Darby
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00:36:55.100 --> 00:36:57.120
MJF comes out looking so smug
480
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.640
But he's shitting himself and you know it right? Oh, yeah
481
00:37:02.260 --> 00:37:06.600
Bell rings Darby turns her back to hand the belt off MJF kicks Darby in the nuts
482
00:37:09.820 --> 00:37:10.260
And
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00:37:10.260 --> 00:37:16.780
He walks around kind of gloating for a second. He turns around Darby pushes him. He almost runs into Aubrey
484
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:22.820
Then he turns around and Darby kicks him in the nuts. Then he hits a scorpion death drop
485
00:37:22.820 --> 00:37:27.520
I'm like, whoa, we're starting kind of fast. Then he hits a fucking coffin drop. I'm like, wait a minute
486
00:37:27.520 --> 00:37:29.980
Then he has another coffin drop. I'm like, whoa
487
00:37:29.980 --> 00:37:37.700
Another coffin drop what you missed a you missed a post Darby then he hits another coffin drop from the post he missed
488
00:37:37.700 --> 00:37:45.580
And then he just headlocked takeovers him and pins him. Yep
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00:37:47.140 --> 00:37:48.820
He wasn't ready
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00:37:48.820 --> 00:37:49.640
Holy
491
00:37:51.820 --> 00:37:54.700
Holy fire fucking shit
492
00:37:55.540 --> 00:37:57.540
There are times in
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Wrestling where you want to see that classic, you know, you want to see that Kenny Omega match you want to see that
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00:38:04.220 --> 00:38:08.520
45 minute masterpiece. This did not need to be a 45 minute masterpiece
495
00:38:09.580 --> 00:38:12.820
Okay, MJF got himself in too fucking deep
496
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:16.740
Darby outsmarted him finally
497
00:38:17.700 --> 00:38:22.080
MJF's outsmarted Darby a bunch of times. Yeah, okay and
498
00:38:22.080 --> 00:38:25.860
Darby when he kicked him in the nuts and he created his own
499
00:38:25.860 --> 00:38:32.120
Distraction and kicked him in the nuts. He showed like I got you tonight. You're done. This is over for you
500
00:38:35.540 --> 00:38:39.120
What'd you think in that moment books? I
501
00:38:39.120 --> 00:38:47.350
Believe I said, holy shit twice in two different thread posts cuz I didn't I knew he was winning the sting
502
00:38:48.390 --> 00:38:55.090
The genuine the authentic emotion. I knew he was what I didn't see a squash
503
00:38:55.710 --> 00:38:58.210
But I loved that it was a squash
504
00:38:59.810 --> 00:39:07.330
Because MJF's biggest fault is always going to be his ego, right? Right and
505
00:39:07.330 --> 00:39:13.530
In telling Darby that he's not ready all this other stuff. He created his worst enemy and
506
00:39:16.710 --> 00:39:18.110
he had like
507
00:39:18.870 --> 00:39:25.730
It was perfect and then I I can't even talk about what happened next because I literally was I was just crying at that point
508
00:39:26.410 --> 00:39:27.010
so
509
00:39:27.970 --> 00:39:30.810
For me it was I remember
510
00:39:31.310 --> 00:39:36.410
This whole episode felt like an attitude era episode and in the good way
511
00:39:36.410 --> 00:39:41.530
Where it's just like you are on the edge of your seat. Anything can happen. You gotta be paying attention
512
00:39:41.530 --> 00:39:43.690
not in a creepy way and
513
00:39:44.750 --> 00:39:51.770
You got to be paying attention and you want to be paying attention because they started the episode off so crazy
514
00:39:51.770 --> 00:39:56.350
That you know something huge at least one huge thing is gonna happen for sure
515
00:39:57.330 --> 00:39:59.850
And maybe a lot more right and
516
00:40:01.690 --> 00:40:08.090
So when this match kicked off, you know, I had no idea what would happen they kicked it off with like
517
00:40:08.870 --> 00:40:16.210
five minutes left in the hour, but a W does long overruns all the time and
518
00:40:16.210 --> 00:40:18.530
When Darby won I
519
00:40:19.290 --> 00:40:24.950
could we were all like our I like I looked at the BJ sitting next to me and I knew my eyes were just
520
00:40:24.950 --> 00:40:26.750
gigantic and we stood and we are
521
00:40:27.010 --> 00:40:32.670
I'm screaming so loud. I can't even hear noise. Like I I don't even know if I was making sound like
522
00:40:32.670 --> 00:40:38.750
It was so crazy to be in that building. We the roof could have literally come off that place. Seriously and
523
00:40:41.510 --> 00:40:42.070
Darby
524
00:40:42.070 --> 00:40:46.930
You know the entire baby face locker room empties. That was so cool
525
00:40:46.930 --> 00:40:50.230
Seeing the outrunners come out the Bucks came out when the
526
00:40:50.230 --> 00:40:50.570
I
527
00:40:52.110 --> 00:40:56.570
Died I was like cuz you know, this was a conversation I had with
528
00:40:57.370 --> 00:41:01.590
Bucks Kenny Tony about that. It's Darby's time and like, yeah
529
00:41:01.590 --> 00:41:07.190
It just them coming out and hugging him was just like they know how much this man loves this company
530
00:41:07.190 --> 00:41:10.110
Yes. Yes, and then
531
00:41:10.930 --> 00:41:14.250
Brody was the first person out and
532
00:41:14.250 --> 00:41:18.590
As somebody who has seen Brody and Darby wrestle a bunch of times in defy
533
00:41:18.590 --> 00:41:21.990
Because Brody wrestled a shitload in Seattle, he's another guy
534
00:41:21.990 --> 00:41:26.090
I almost consider him like an honorary Seattle guy because he was there so much
535
00:41:26.090 --> 00:41:28.590
I'm just saying Brody looks like he's going after Darby
536
00:41:30.190 --> 00:41:36.130
Wouldn't surprise me also you remember at the beginning of the show Champa said like I don't care who wins
537
00:41:36.130 --> 00:41:42.740
I'm coming after whoever. Yeah, I think Darby will definitely be defending against Champa on dynamite at some point in the near future
538
00:41:45.250 --> 00:41:47.360
Yeah, it's it's just crazy so
539
00:41:48.420 --> 00:41:51.580
Let's let's see what the folks are saying here in the chat Devil Dinosaur
540
00:41:51.580 --> 00:41:52.960
Everybody is entitled to an opinion
541
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:58.060
But you can't really talk too much shit about a guy who climbed Mount Everest and wrestles like Gumby's skeleton
542
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.020
Very true Larry line
543
00:42:01.020 --> 00:42:06.040
I have a distinct memory of Will Osprey wrestling Kenny Omega and flossing with the Canadian flag
544
00:42:06.040 --> 00:42:10.580
Currently Will and Kenny are allied in their pursuit of the AEW men's title and we're four months away
545
00:42:11.380 --> 00:42:11.860
Yeah
546
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:18.860
We'll talk more about that later because I thought that promo might end up playing a real big part in where we go
547
00:42:18.860 --> 00:42:21.520
My theory has completely changed because of that promo
548
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:26.100
Yeah, scareglow. I was screaming out the count the building Kenny got a 15 count
549
00:42:26.100 --> 00:42:29.200
He beat MJF five times over in my mind, of course
550
00:42:29.200 --> 00:42:33.460
Yeah, you know he he he hit the one-winged angel and yeah
551
00:42:33.460 --> 00:42:36.420
He got like a 15 count before the ref ran in it was so funny
552
00:42:36.420 --> 00:42:40.680
MJF said, you know, he kicked out of the one-winged angels not even a very effective move if you ask me
553
00:42:40.680 --> 00:42:42.160
You know, he's just
554
00:42:43.200 --> 00:42:48.440
Didn't he roll out before he could even get pinned that was that was on the avalanche
555
00:42:49.040 --> 00:42:54.460
One that he did from the second turnbuckle. I was in and out of sleep on that match, by the way
556
00:42:54.460 --> 00:42:59.860
Yeah, I was I was fighting migraine medicine. So yeah, I still have to realize
557
00:43:00.980 --> 00:43:01.520
Yes
558
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:04.980
Yes
559
00:43:06.260 --> 00:43:10.660
It's such a good match such a Kenny versus MJF was a fantastic match
560
00:43:10.680 --> 00:43:16.500
I rewatched it before we did the review of the show and holy crap. It's a really really good match
561
00:43:16.500 --> 00:43:20.420
Slim picket says my reaction. Oh sugar, honey iced tea. He did it
562
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:27.800
Blurry light seven stinged off the white got a huge pop. So yeah, so
563
00:43:28.700 --> 00:43:31.860
Too fat to cook says old man's thing is the fucking coolest
564
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:34.740
Completely agree completely agree folks
565
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:43.400
He's barely even there anymore and yet when he appears Sting is literally the coolest fucking thing in wrestling
566
00:43:44.120 --> 00:43:48.420
Like at all. He's just the coolest fucking shit. You know what I mean?
567
00:43:48.860 --> 00:43:53.360
So the baby faces come down there celebrating with Darby and then stings
568
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:58.080
I knew stings music was gonna hit and it does he comes down
569
00:43:58.080 --> 00:44:00.240
my god
570
00:44:02.220 --> 00:44:04.720
Unbelievable, you know, they got Darby up all the way
571
00:44:04.720 --> 00:44:09.420
Yeah, they got Darby up on the big screen, you know as with the with the title and oh
572
00:44:09.420 --> 00:44:12.240
It just it really, you know
573
00:44:12.240 --> 00:44:17.280
I heard I saw a lot of people say it felt like Mick Foley winning the world title in the attitude era
574
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:23.540
and I think that's the closest thing you can compare it to by the way that match was a shit show schmoz as well and
575
00:44:23.540 --> 00:44:26.120
Wasn't like a great wrestling match. It just
576
00:44:26.120 --> 00:44:32.080
Was awesome to see Mick win the title and that's what this was as well. So
577
00:44:35.140 --> 00:44:39.820
The baby face locker room empties and surrounds Darby then sting comes out
578
00:44:39.820 --> 00:44:42.580
I have more tears coming down my face at this point
579
00:44:42.940 --> 00:44:47.040
Darby is about to cut a promo and then the feed ends on the show
580
00:44:47.040 --> 00:44:51.140
everybody immediately starts texting me and hitting me up in the discord going
581
00:44:51.820 --> 00:44:56.800
What did he say and I just happened to film it. It's 30 seconds long and it's literally him going
582
00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:58.940
Thank you all but hey, we got a show to do
583
00:44:58.940 --> 00:45:03.360
So please stick around for the people that are gonna wrestle they need you and then he left
584
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:11.080
Real locker room leadership really cool and the Bucs just stay in the ring and they have the next match, right? So
585
00:45:11.080 --> 00:45:15.300
Yes, slim picking. I was their life. I was their life. Holy shit
586
00:45:17.780 --> 00:45:18.260
and
587
00:45:18.260 --> 00:45:25.700
There's all kinds of more shit that can happen because player line reminds us they have a named collision coming up soon. Yes
588
00:45:25.700 --> 00:45:27.820
unbelievable stuff
589
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:32.900
Okay, Rivera's thing is a benchmark for what every legend should aspire to be no whiny
590
00:45:33.560 --> 00:45:38.840
Podcasting garbage just old man. Cool. Exactly. Leave the whiny podcast garbage to me
591
00:45:41.100 --> 00:45:43.180
Like that's that's what I'm here for
592
00:45:43.820 --> 00:45:45.900
Sting you got bigger shit to do
593
00:45:46.620 --> 00:45:51.100
so then there was the reaction that I saw that night and
594
00:45:51.100 --> 00:45:57.440
Then there was the reaction that followed the next day and of course you have your people coming out of the woodwork
595
00:45:57.820 --> 00:46:02.320
To weigh in with their two cents. So let's let's talk about so
596
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:09.120
In addition to all the people that thought it was awesome, which I would say was the vast majority
597
00:46:09.120 --> 00:46:11.700
I think the vast majority were way into it
598
00:46:12.040 --> 00:46:14.980
And I will say I think a lot of the bad reactions are
599
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.460
Bad faith don't watch aew
600
00:46:22.040 --> 00:46:23.580
Just want to complain
601
00:46:24.220 --> 00:46:28.700
So, yes, so i'm going to be speaking of the people whose opinions I at least thought
602
00:46:28.700 --> 00:46:31.380
Came from an honest place. Okay
603
00:46:32.420 --> 00:46:38.900
So some people felt kenny losing to mjf and then darby darby immediately winning was a terrible use of kenny
604
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:43.720
Like you just had kenny lose and then darby beats him
605
00:46:43.720 --> 00:46:47.660
In a squash you just made kenny look like a total loser
606
00:46:48.220 --> 00:46:53.160
No, but that's no, but it's also part of the story happening, right?
607
00:46:53.580 --> 00:46:58.140
But they also didn't make kenny look like a total loser because mjf was worn down from wrestling kenny
608
00:46:58.660 --> 00:47:01.020
Yeah, that's why he was able to
609
00:47:01.820 --> 00:47:06.140
Like also squash him like because kenny beat the shit out of him, too
610
00:47:07.620 --> 00:47:08.140
I
611
00:47:08.140 --> 00:47:14.860
Said very clearly on the review of dynasty that I was sad when kenny lost because I wanted kenny to win not
612
00:47:14.860 --> 00:47:16.900
I didn't make up some bullshit
613
00:47:16.900 --> 00:47:20.340
Excuse for why kenny should have won. I just wanted him to right
614
00:47:20.340 --> 00:47:23.370
I wanted him to win and he lost and it was sad for me, right?
615
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:25.960
Guys, just be honest for all of us
616
00:47:26.580 --> 00:47:33.920
I love kenny omega and I always will he is literally my goat, but he's not above supporting a main event story
617
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:39.710
No, he's just he's just not for the people forget that kenny and the young bucks. They all have
618
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:42.600
bigger stakes in aew and what
619
00:47:42.600 --> 00:47:46.580
Is best for the company outside of what's best for them as wrestlers?
620
00:47:47.580 --> 00:47:52.180
Totally and I don't think we've seen the end of kenny in the main event or as a possible champion either
621
00:47:53.140 --> 00:47:55.400
No, I just think this is a bump in his story
622
00:47:56.020 --> 00:48:01.600
He may be the god of pro wrestling, but he's not jesus christ on the cross relax. Okay
623
00:48:02.720 --> 00:48:04.320
Excuse me then
624
00:48:05.100 --> 00:48:05.940
They're uh, oh
625
00:48:06.620 --> 00:48:13.760
Um, all right. Let's move on. Um, i'm better than jesus. I'm kenny. Oh geez
626
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:16.240
Wow books, wow. Um
627
00:48:16.940 --> 00:48:19.560
Then i've seen some others gonna mop you up
628
00:48:20.140 --> 00:48:21.660
That's true. That's true
629
00:48:21.660 --> 00:48:28.720
He's welcome to try I see some others say darby isn't a quote-unquote believable world champion because he's so small
630
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:36.450
To those people even if they're coming from a good place with it. I'm sorry, but fuck yourselves. Okay, like
631
00:48:37.160 --> 00:48:42.580
Ramis if ray mysterio was a believable world champion darby is easily believable world
632
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:51.800
He's kind of like there's a lot of like while cm punk may have height
633
00:48:54.660 --> 00:48:56.500
They're built kind of similarly
634
00:48:57.200 --> 00:49:00.060
Yeah, oh, yeah, but cm punk is believable
635
00:49:01.620 --> 00:49:02.740
Right, right
636
00:49:03.620 --> 00:49:04.180
um
637
00:49:04.180 --> 00:49:06.340
it's it's
638
00:49:06.340 --> 00:49:11.340
You know, it's they said the same thing about brad hart. They said the same thing about sean michaels
639
00:49:11.340 --> 00:49:15.260
They said and those guys are huge compared to cm punk
640
00:49:15.260 --> 00:49:20.920
Those guys were bigger than him um, and cm punk's much bigger than darby and whatever
641
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:27.020
But cm punk was also one of the you know, these same people who love cm punk are saying darby's not believable, right?
642
00:49:29.240 --> 00:49:29.680
um
643
00:49:29.680 --> 00:49:36.280
Okay, uh blurry line says the only reservation I have is that whilst i'm very happy with what they did from a character tv perspective
644
00:49:37.340 --> 00:49:39.620
Um darby as a human being outside the ring
645
00:49:39.620 --> 00:49:45.140
Has some baggage that is now getting some spotlighting and more attention on it. That was always going to happen
646
00:49:45.260 --> 00:49:46.840
um, and
647
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.610
You know something that I am just going to say is
648
00:49:51.610 --> 00:49:58.950
I'm not saying anything about what darby did or didn't do or any of those things because I don't know
649
00:49:59.550 --> 00:50:06.410
And the the thing is no one ever will it's not possible to know definitively one way or the other
650
00:50:07.170 --> 00:50:07.870
um
651
00:50:07.870 --> 00:50:08.810
but
652
00:50:09.550 --> 00:50:12.140
I can only say that
653
00:50:12.780 --> 00:50:17.100
During the time that you know people's made some pretty serious allegations against darby
654
00:50:18.020 --> 00:50:18.560
um
655
00:50:18.560 --> 00:50:26.100
They were made against others in aew and those people were fired darby wasn't shit at the time like he wasn't a mean event guy
656
00:50:26.100 --> 00:50:30.820
He wasn't with sting there hadn't been a ton of mileage put into him as a character
657
00:50:30.820 --> 00:50:33.700
I'm not saying that that exonerates him
658
00:50:33.700 --> 00:50:36.300
But they did say they looked into it
659
00:50:36.300 --> 00:50:38.540
That's all I know for sure
660
00:50:38.540 --> 00:50:41.080
Okay, if more comes out later
661
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:46.940
Go ahead and I look at too like his like what his ex-wife has said
662
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:51.680
And that they're still very close and just sometimes
663
00:50:52.600 --> 00:50:53.160
people
664
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:54.560
clash
665
00:50:57.060 --> 00:50:58.180
And it's
666
00:50:58.180 --> 00:51:03.060
Unhealthy and toxic together and that's not excusing anything that he did
667
00:51:03.060 --> 00:51:03.920
but
668
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:06.940
He was also very young and I think he grew up
669
00:51:06.940 --> 00:51:10.480
I think he's been honest about going to therapy and getting help and
670
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:17.140
I think that kind of makes a difference is that he's willing to acknowledge what he did and sought help
671
00:51:17.720 --> 00:51:19.340
And not everyone does that
672
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:25.620
Yeah, and I again I'm a little bit more willing to forgive him than I am some other people because
673
00:51:25.620 --> 00:51:26.840
seeking help
674
00:51:28.040 --> 00:51:28.520
Acknowledging
675
00:51:28.520 --> 00:51:33.700
Is if there were a laundry list of people coming out of the woodwork to say shit about him that that'd be a different
676
00:51:33.700 --> 00:51:34.980
thing right like
677
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:39.120
There isn't that i'm you know that i'm aware of so
678
00:51:39.120 --> 00:51:41.020
You know it's
679
00:51:41.020 --> 00:51:45.140
Yeah, it does put a spotlight on that but it always was going to it was and so
680
00:51:46.120 --> 00:51:52.260
You might as well just do it and and have it be done, you know, and and darby
681
00:51:52.260 --> 00:51:55.160
To my knowledge has never spoken about it. So
682
00:51:55.160 --> 00:51:58.160
Other than we just
683
00:51:59.120 --> 00:52:02.580
It's been alluded to that he has sought sought help so
684
00:52:02.580 --> 00:52:06.800
Right, so I don't know what type of guy he is. I'm not vouching for anything
685
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:12.060
I don't you know, i've learned my lesson with all of that. You don't vouch for people you don't know, you know
686
00:52:12.060 --> 00:52:13.080
but
687
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:19.980
As it stands with what I know i'm excited. I'm i'm I think some fresh blood in the main event scene
688
00:52:19.980 --> 00:52:21.680
Yeah, is really really good
689
00:52:21.680 --> 00:52:23.060
Darby, who's he gonna?
690
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:24.800
non
691
00:52:27.980 --> 00:52:30.520
Like someone who this is our first true new
692
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:37.020
A w world champion since um
693
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:39.780
Since uh brian danielson
694
00:52:39.780 --> 00:52:45.160
Yeah, yeah when he lost it to swerve or when he won it from swerve and swerve
695
00:52:45.740 --> 00:52:47.180
Yeah was also a new champion
696
00:52:47.180 --> 00:52:53.080
But yeah, I mean it's pretty much revolved around mox and hangman and joe and you know
697
00:52:53.080 --> 00:52:57.540
Kind of same cast of characters for a while. Yeah, it was time to put it on new blood
698
00:52:57.980 --> 00:53:04.680
Yep. Yep. And and there's a whole bunch of opponents for darby now. Um, so a blurry line about
699
00:53:04.680 --> 00:53:07.540
honoring and
700
00:53:07.540 --> 00:53:10.020
Promoting loyalty, which is darby
701
00:53:10.940 --> 00:53:16.220
I in mjf is who he is but mjf has also been a very loyal person, right? So it was like
702
00:53:16.740 --> 00:53:23.040
Putting putting the championship from one extremely loyal company man to another and well and and
703
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:29.080
Make no mistake darby is over as fuck like it's not just in my hometown
704
00:53:29.080 --> 00:53:35.960
There is a reason there is so much darby merch. There is a reason that they made like seven darby action figures
705
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:36.800
um
706
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:43.940
Even though he's like him like kids love him like a lot of people love darby. He's very much over
707
00:53:43.940 --> 00:53:50.600
And so I saw uh blood and guts had darby face mask paint on or were in darby merch
708
00:53:50.600 --> 00:53:56.480
Yeah, yeah, so it's like this guy sells he makes a lot of money for the company period
709
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:56.920
Yeah
710
00:53:56.920 --> 00:54:01.740
And um, and he gets a lot of notoriety too, you know outside of wrestling for the crazy shit
711
00:54:01.740 --> 00:54:06.960
Does so he's he's brought a lot of attention to aw through various different ways
712
00:54:08.120 --> 00:54:08.660
um
713
00:54:10.160 --> 00:54:11.240
so, uh
714
00:54:11.240 --> 00:54:12.300
Let's see
715
00:54:15.950 --> 00:54:18.790
Let's see what others are seeing how
716
00:54:19.910 --> 00:54:24.850
Our uh, rk. Rivera says I got like four darby action figures. I'm not proud of it
717
00:54:24.850 --> 00:54:30.950
But I kind of am I do too. I collect the toys man. I have so many fucking toys. It's wild
718
00:54:31.690 --> 00:54:32.230
wild
719
00:54:32.230 --> 00:54:35.020
I need to branch out of my
720
00:54:36.570 --> 00:54:37.790
Elite collecting
721
00:54:39.050 --> 00:54:40.450
Right, right
722
00:54:40.450 --> 00:54:41.530
um
723
00:54:42.370 --> 00:54:49.010
Uh, the scare glow says look at mma steroided out guys got get worked by smaller guys. Absolutely happens all the time
724
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:54.270
A real fight like you are it's about how you move how?
725
00:54:55.430 --> 00:54:56.130
like
726
00:54:56.990 --> 00:54:58.350
How you navigate
727
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:01.090
Big ad says hi guys
728
00:55:01.090 --> 00:55:02.010
um
729
00:55:02.010 --> 00:55:05.510
Yeah, so I I think that there's there's like
730
00:55:07.110 --> 00:55:08.490
There's this
731
00:55:09.110 --> 00:55:14.290
There there's these people who think that they can kick darby's ass and it's like no you couldn't like
732
00:55:15.010 --> 00:55:17.370
One he's not afraid of being hurt by you
733
00:55:18.570 --> 00:55:23.810
People who aren't afraid to be hurt are very dangerous. Yeah, right because they will
734
00:55:24.890 --> 00:55:29.090
They're not afraid to be hurt. So they'll just come right at you, you know, um
735
00:55:29.990 --> 00:55:36.650
Yeah guys like we're having some uh, uh action figure talk in the chat here and um guys I have like 400
736
00:55:37.730 --> 00:55:42.950
Wrestling figures right now like it's it's wild. I actually don't know how many I have I have many
737
00:55:43.570 --> 00:55:44.090
many
738
00:55:46.410 --> 00:55:46.930
um
739
00:55:46.930 --> 00:55:51.010
And maybe I should be embarrassed but i'm not
740
00:55:52.130 --> 00:55:52.650
um
741
00:55:52.650 --> 00:55:56.870
So the last thing was that I saw people kind of like with the kenny thing saying
742
00:55:56.870 --> 00:56:00.970
I've also you know that this was a massive misuse of mjf
743
00:56:00.970 --> 00:56:06.430
I also think that's bullshit this rivalry goes back years in aw alone far longer on the indies
744
00:56:06.890 --> 00:56:09.670
Darby's been a huge supporting piece in building mjf
745
00:56:10.650 --> 00:56:14.070
You know what? I mean? Like he played a huge role in the build of mjf
746
00:56:14.650 --> 00:56:20.030
And so it's it's right for max to return the favor. Yeah, um
747
00:56:20.030 --> 00:56:21.410
you know and
748
00:56:21.410 --> 00:56:26.050
Mjf is the kind of person who can lose any kind of way and he's never like done
749
00:56:26.050 --> 00:56:32.170
You know what? I mean, there's no way to kill mjf unless he does it himself, you know
750
00:56:33.350 --> 00:56:37.510
Somehow came back from that weird promo with
751
00:56:38.770 --> 00:56:42.530
Jeff jarrett, so i'm not concerned about mjf
752
00:56:43.650 --> 00:56:45.690
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm
753
00:56:46.350 --> 00:56:50.550
Uh always never in the chat. What's up, buddy? The way darby one was beautiful. That shit was art
754
00:56:50.550 --> 00:56:53.350
I almost cried last time was hangman unlocking the briefcase
755
00:56:53.350 --> 00:56:56.230
I did cry and went swerve beat samoa joe
756
00:56:56.930 --> 00:57:02.110
And then rk revera, uh, I agree mjf is our rick flair. He is yeah. He's like the nature boy
757
00:57:03.670 --> 00:57:04.150
um
758
00:57:05.010 --> 00:57:05.490
um
759
00:57:05.490 --> 00:57:06.370
tony monty
760
00:57:07.210 --> 00:57:07.690
um
761
00:57:07.690 --> 00:57:11.030
Mighty mouse fought at 125 pounds and in an open weight competition
762
00:57:11.030 --> 00:57:14.370
He tapped out the 280 pound heavy. All right
763
00:57:15.250 --> 00:57:15.730
um
764
00:57:15.730 --> 00:57:20.930
And then uh, too fat to cook mjf has been crashing out on how it is a misuse crashing out
765
00:57:20.930 --> 00:57:24.010
Mjf is the best mjf. Yes, it is
766
00:57:24.850 --> 00:57:25.410
um
767
00:57:25.410 --> 00:57:29.910
Just like maybe i'm better chasing the championship. There are just sometimes the
768
00:57:30.590 --> 00:57:33.170
fallout or the build is better than the like
769
00:57:36.090 --> 00:57:41.270
Where they shine he called he called it the seattle screw job, which I hope catches on
770
00:57:41.270 --> 00:57:44.070
Honestly, i'm gonna start calling you that that's hilarious
771
00:57:44.750 --> 00:57:45.310
Yeah
772
00:57:46.610 --> 00:57:47.170
um
773
00:57:47.170 --> 00:57:50.770
Mjf's done such a great job. I think this was a much better title run, honestly
774
00:57:50.770 --> 00:57:54.730
Um, yeah, but some people think so much of him that they kind of throw a fit anytime
775
00:57:54.730 --> 00:57:58.010
He's not the champ or if he has to lose he's had a great reign
776
00:57:58.010 --> 00:58:02.910
He did a great job. And if anything he was heavily protected with the circumstances of the angle
777
00:58:02.910 --> 00:58:04.150
You know
778
00:58:04.150 --> 00:58:07.650
Like he just wrestled a 45 minute match with kenny omega
779
00:58:07.650 --> 00:58:11.870
Three days before he didn't know that he had to wrestle, you know
780
00:58:13.210 --> 00:58:13.690
so
781
00:58:13.690 --> 00:58:16.350
If anything, I think it helped
782
00:58:16.350 --> 00:58:19.130
mjf a lot to to
783
00:58:19.130 --> 00:58:21.130
You know losing a squash sure, but
784
00:58:21.870 --> 00:58:24.290
The squash that was very like
785
00:58:24.290 --> 00:58:27.030
The circumstances were not in his favor. You know what I mean?
786
00:58:28.310 --> 00:58:28.750
um
787
00:58:29.430 --> 00:58:29.870
so
788
00:58:29.870 --> 00:58:35.270
Outside of the arena being there myself this very much felt like mcfoli winning the world championship on raw
789
00:58:35.270 --> 00:58:39.410
There were plenty of people at the time. They they would all pretend they weren't now
790
00:58:39.410 --> 00:58:43.350
But there were plenty of people then who said it was a terrible business decision for wwf
791
00:58:43.350 --> 00:58:46.710
To make and we've seen how that played out. They were wrong
792
00:58:47.270 --> 00:58:52.350
The world championships are important and should be protected, but I think it's okay for them to move around
793
00:58:52.350 --> 00:58:56.610
Aew needs new blood in the world title picture, you know
794
00:58:56.610 --> 00:59:00.130
Look at how boring it gets when the same four people are doing
795
00:59:00.630 --> 00:59:05.150
The same four matches over and over and over again
796
00:59:05.150 --> 00:59:08.850
We don't want random celebrities showing up to make things interesting
797
00:59:09.590 --> 00:59:10.730
Oh my god, great
798
00:59:11.490 --> 00:59:11.970
Um
799
00:59:12.530 --> 00:59:18.030
And you know if darby isn't one of your faves, that's okay, but he is massively over from the beginning
800
00:59:18.650 --> 00:59:23.350
You know, like I said having staying as his mentor was designed to build him up to be a top guy
801
00:59:23.350 --> 00:59:23.970
Yeah
802
00:59:23.970 --> 00:59:30.930
And and again doing this on dynamite immediately makes it feel like anything can happen on dynamite and it makes next week
803
00:59:30.930 --> 00:59:37.430
Feel like a must-watch experience. Yeah, and if so if like if title changes are always held off to a pay-per-view
804
00:59:37.430 --> 00:59:39.370
What's the point of watching the weekly shows?
805
00:59:39.370 --> 00:59:42.070
Yeah, it becomes like repetitive and
806
00:59:44.390 --> 00:59:48.990
You kind of are just like well if I like if I miss it, I miss it now. It's gonna be well
807
00:59:48.990 --> 00:59:50.950
I don't want to miss it
808
00:59:51.490 --> 00:59:57.390
Also, I do need to point out between swerve brian danielson and darby seattle area might have
809
00:59:58.110 --> 00:59:59.070
the most
810
00:59:59.070 --> 01:00:02.470
Men's aw men's world champion so far I could be wrong
811
01:00:02.470 --> 01:00:09.650
But to me again as someone who grew up with zero local wrestling. No, that's pretty fucking cool to have three like washingtonians
812
01:00:09.650 --> 01:00:12.010
as men's world champion
813
01:00:13.450 --> 01:00:20.290
Pretty dope right swerve danielson and darby like wild and we still got nick wane someday
814
01:00:21.010 --> 01:00:21.510
um
815
01:00:21.510 --> 01:00:27.850
Yeah, um, I think in that match he had with mox he showed it. It might be sooner than later. Um
816
01:00:27.850 --> 01:00:29.910
Let's see. Let's see what we got in the chat
817
01:00:30.810 --> 01:00:35.930
2025 mjf versus 2026 mjf is literally a different person who's so fucking bad and lazy
818
01:00:35.930 --> 01:00:40.790
For most of 2025 and and became the best version of himself for 2026
819
01:00:40.790 --> 01:00:43.650
Completely agree. Um, I think that max
820
01:00:44.150 --> 01:00:49.730
It just didn't seem like he was all the way there in 2025 because he wasn't he had movies to promote
821
01:00:49.730 --> 01:00:51.610
He had other shit going on. Yeah, you know
822
01:00:52.390 --> 01:00:54.130
Um his mind was elsewhere and that's okay
823
01:00:54.130 --> 01:00:59.430
Yeah, and I I mean it did come across lazy at times. You know, I get that. Yeah
824
01:00:59.430 --> 01:01:04.010
Always never crash out mjf is only type by determined and angry mjf agreed
825
01:01:04.790 --> 01:01:10.630
Um the scare glow bad faith arguments from fed heads. It's not darby's fault wrestlemania's not garbage buddy
826
01:01:10.630 --> 01:01:14.250
We got we got something coming on just up that alley here in a few minutes
827
01:01:16.050 --> 01:01:19.510
Um slim picking says the obvious thing he'll get it back at some point
828
01:01:19.510 --> 01:01:23.110
No question mjf will probably have more title reigns than anybody else
829
01:01:23.110 --> 01:01:28.010
He's also only 30 which I think people forget like this kid. Yeah young and like wrestling
830
01:01:28.010 --> 01:01:30.750
Like and they'll already pulled it twice
831
01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:35.870
Yeah, and he's younger than darby darby 33 like
832
01:01:37.190 --> 01:01:39.800
Darby will probably be champ this time and maybe
833
01:01:40.590 --> 01:01:44.710
One other twice else. Yeah, if he's ever champion again
834
01:01:44.710 --> 01:01:49.070
Yeah, this could just be the thing to cement his legacy, you know
835
01:01:49.070 --> 01:01:54.940
If mjf hasn't his entire career in aw he will probably hold the title the most
836
01:01:55.690 --> 01:01:58.310
Yeah him or hangman. Yeah. Yep
837
01:01:58.990 --> 01:01:59.550
Um
838
01:02:00.070 --> 01:02:05.710
Tony mjh has more natural talent than rick flair there. I said it. Okay
839
01:02:05.710 --> 01:02:12.070
Um, I think you just typed h by accident. Um, tony. I agree with you cousin. That's a good take
840
01:02:12.710 --> 01:02:14.650
For one. I was waiting for something crazy
841
01:02:15.330 --> 01:02:16.610
Yeah, exactly
842
01:02:17.510 --> 01:02:23.350
Uh big ads mjf is still the longest reigning aw men's world champ ever calm down people exactly. Yeah
843
01:02:23.650 --> 01:02:26.110
Then we're gonna give him another 14 month reign
844
01:02:26.110 --> 01:02:28.870
Okay, that there's too many people in the main event
845
01:02:29.590 --> 01:02:32.490
I think the men's right now needs to like
846
01:02:32.490 --> 01:02:38.690
Go every three or four months. It needs to just cycle right now because there's too many there's too much talent
847
01:02:39.390 --> 01:02:49.090
For a very long time until about 1989 1990 the nwa world championship was the most prestigious championship in wrestling
848
01:02:49.810 --> 01:02:55.030
And tommy rich held it for one week or less than one week. He held it for four days one time
849
01:02:56.470 --> 01:02:56.950
um
850
01:02:56.950 --> 01:03:00.250
jack briscoe dropped it for a week to giant baba twice
851
01:03:00.950 --> 01:03:03.510
Or once and then harley race did the same thing
852
01:03:03.970 --> 01:03:09.210
Okay, giant baba is a two-time nwa world champion and both of his title reigns were one week long
853
01:03:09.210 --> 01:03:11.630
Okay, like
854
01:03:11.630 --> 01:03:17.290
Chillax, you know carrie von eric took it from rick flair for three weeks, you know
855
01:03:17.290 --> 01:03:17.910
so
856
01:03:18.410 --> 01:03:23.170
That's just that's just how it happens ricky steamboat held it for like two months one time, you know, it's
857
01:03:23.810 --> 01:03:25.990
It's not that big a deal. It really isn't
858
01:03:26.750 --> 01:03:33.810
Uh slim picking repetitiveness shows quick and wrestling even with celebrities totally. I mean look at look at fucking new york right now
859
01:03:33.810 --> 01:03:36.090
It's a fucking mess because of that shit, you know
860
01:03:36.630 --> 01:03:39.510
Um people don't want to pay those prices. It's connecticut
861
01:03:42.730 --> 01:03:49.430
Um too bad to cook darb's winning shows that literally anyone can win chomple winning shows that anyone debuting can win
862
01:03:49.430 --> 01:03:52.830
Aw is unpredictable and it's awesome. Well said yeah
863
01:03:53.610 --> 01:03:59.970
Blurry line with the best chat of the night and mother wayne won the championship of our hearts. Jesus christ
864
01:03:59.970 --> 01:04:01.230
It's so true
865
01:04:01.230 --> 01:04:05.850
When moxley was like hey mother wayne won't be down there. I was like, fuck you, man
866
01:04:05.850 --> 01:04:07.890
Why would you do this?
867
01:04:08.190 --> 01:04:09.890
God damn it. We need mother wayne
868
01:04:11.370 --> 01:04:16.250
I know she's beautiful. Okay, like everybody knows she's beautiful. But when you see her in person
869
01:04:16.250 --> 01:04:20.050
That's a beautiful woman. My lord mother wayne is beautiful. Holy god
870
01:04:21.370 --> 01:04:21.850
um
871
01:04:22.590 --> 01:04:22.990
uh
872
01:04:22.990 --> 01:04:26.490
Slim picking do you think god do you guys think wayne did great against mox?
873
01:04:26.590 --> 01:04:30.330
I was shocked in my opinion how well he ended up doing he did a great job
874
01:04:30.790 --> 01:04:35.470
He he grew up in this area, you know, I saw him wrestle when he's like 16 years old
875
01:04:35.470 --> 01:04:36.930
so like
876
01:04:36.930 --> 01:04:42.290
Yeah, he's he's way better than he's had a chance to show and he's only gotten better in that time
877
01:04:42.290 --> 01:04:47.090
He's gonna be in the new japan juniors tournament this year. Watch out. He's gonna be great
878
01:04:47.090 --> 01:04:50.590
Putting him with christian cage was like the best thing they did for his career
879
01:04:51.110 --> 01:04:51.550
Yeah
880
01:04:52.950 --> 01:04:53.390
Yeah
881
01:04:53.390 --> 01:04:59.230
Uh the scare glow. I can't wait to see shows in washington once the orange man gets the boot. God damn right. God damn right
882
01:05:00.950 --> 01:05:01.390
um
883
01:05:01.850 --> 01:05:02.290
Oh
884
01:05:03.830 --> 01:05:04.270
uh
885
01:05:04.270 --> 01:05:10.750
Rk. Rivera nick wayne really showed something in that mox match. That's the future champ. Yes agreed agreed
886
01:05:10.750 --> 01:05:12.750
I mean nick wayne
887
01:05:12.750 --> 01:05:18.110
Could train a lot of the people who are in nxt his dad is buddy wayne. So like
888
01:05:18.110 --> 01:05:21.790
The kid knows how he's known how to wrestle since he's like eight years old like
889
01:05:22.850 --> 01:05:26.110
Unbelievable like a brody like a brody lee jr
890
01:05:27.970 --> 01:05:28.410
Yes
891
01:05:28.410 --> 01:05:33.790
Uh always never. I saw mother wayne at the roh taping. I only regret she stopped wearing the glasses. Sigh
892
01:05:35.010 --> 01:05:38.430
Always never is a nerdy librarian guy. I get it. Okay, um
893
01:05:39.670 --> 01:05:45.050
Big ads mox is for the mothers. He didn't want her catching all that seattle drool. That's okay fair enough
894
01:05:45.050 --> 01:05:49.830
Fair enough, but she lives out here. So I think she catches a lot of it. Anyway, um
895
01:05:50.470 --> 01:05:51.350
All right
896
01:05:51.350 --> 01:05:54.650
So books, um last big topic. Yeah
897
01:05:55.390 --> 01:05:56.910
Before we say anything
898
01:05:56.910 --> 01:06:02.530
More I want to be clear about something even though the chat is friendly if you're listening to the show the first time
899
01:06:02.530 --> 01:06:06.370
I want you to hear me out on this. Okay. I don't watch wwe at all
900
01:06:06.370 --> 01:06:09.950
I might see a clip occasionally on socials or something
901
01:06:10.470 --> 01:06:14.910
It's not for me and it hasn't been for like a decade. I don't like tko
902
01:06:15.050 --> 01:06:18.350
I don't like the mcmahons. I don't like the way that company is run
903
01:06:18.350 --> 01:06:24.930
I don't appreciate the way they've done everything possible to destroy anyone that could remotely be perceived as a competitor
904
01:06:26.290 --> 01:06:26.770
the
905
01:06:26.770 --> 01:06:30.630
Multitude of crimes they've been alleged to have committed right?
906
01:06:31.450 --> 01:06:35.390
But I have zero against the wrestlers themselves because I I don't even see them
907
01:06:35.390 --> 01:06:40.090
Okay, of course, they have a ton of great wrestlers there and talents in the company obviously
908
01:06:40.090 --> 01:06:43.870
So what i'm about to say is not directed at the wrestlers. All right
909
01:06:43.870 --> 01:06:50.780
It's the company itself because I have been laughing my fucking ass off
910
01:06:51.350 --> 01:06:54.450
This entire week listening to paul mcmahon
911
01:06:55.130 --> 01:06:56.930
Dig a hole for himself
912
01:06:57.540 --> 01:06:58.990
so deep
913
01:06:59.870 --> 01:07:04.930
There is no backup cody rhodes there's no backup randy orton. It's like dude you have gunther
914
01:07:05.990 --> 01:07:07.670
It's your job
915
01:07:07.670 --> 01:07:11.300
As the creative head to build
916
01:07:12.200 --> 01:07:14.700
Talent to build the backup roster
917
01:07:21.150 --> 01:07:22.190
This isn't
918
01:07:22.190 --> 01:07:30.290
A real sport paul you have a massive advantage over real sports because you can find you can get people over
919
01:07:30.290 --> 01:07:34.510
Because you're the one who decides who wins and loses and what stories get told
920
01:07:35.410 --> 01:07:39.870
Like what all you do is use the same four talent over and over again
921
01:07:39.870 --> 01:07:43.270
And I won't even go in that he doesn't even say that he has women stars
922
01:07:43.270 --> 01:07:49.210
Like fuck you when the women of wwe have been the best thing about that promotion for the last couple of years
923
01:07:49.210 --> 01:07:53.090
So go fuck yourself paul mcmahon. Go fuck yourself. Yeah, that's right
924
01:07:54.090 --> 01:07:55.290
You've got
925
01:07:55.290 --> 01:08:01.170
Stephanie mcmahon as your headliner for the hall of fame when aj styles is going in
926
01:08:01.170 --> 01:08:04.850
At the same time. Yep. Yeah, there's two
927
01:08:04.850 --> 01:08:07.070
Stephanie mcmahon
928
01:08:07.070 --> 01:08:11.290
Nepo daughter like yeah, there's two stephanie mcmahon
929
01:08:12.130 --> 01:08:14.760
Collectible belts you can buy it right now
930
01:08:15.150 --> 01:08:21.340
And she barely wrestled. Oh, i'm sorry. She did wrestle her dad as less than 30 matches in her entire career
931
01:08:22.310 --> 01:08:25.870
One of them was her father. That's fucking disgusting and creepy
932
01:08:27.090 --> 01:08:31.149
And watching these guys act like arrogant
933
01:08:31.149 --> 01:08:34.010
total arrogant assholes and
934
01:08:34.689 --> 01:08:38.290
You know linda mcmahon being destroying the department of education
935
01:08:38.770 --> 01:08:42.050
Triple h palin around with rfk jr
936
01:08:42.050 --> 01:08:46.310
You know watching these people associate themselves. I already
937
01:08:46.870 --> 01:08:53.430
Pretty much hated them. Okay, but watching them associate themselves with the lowest forms of life on this earth
938
01:08:54.370 --> 01:09:00.090
Really confirmed everything that might have sounded a little crazy for me to say a few years before that right?
939
01:09:00.090 --> 01:09:03.970
Um, I know I just simply remember getting shit for some of the things I said
940
01:09:03.970 --> 01:09:08.870
Yeah, i've just been sitting here sipping my water on my coffee going
941
01:09:10.310 --> 01:09:13.649
I told you guys back in january of 2024
942
01:09:15.010 --> 01:09:16.830
Do I want
943
01:09:16.830 --> 01:09:21.930
Wwe to close. No, I do not okay. It's too big. It would destroy it would really
944
01:09:22.550 --> 01:09:28.210
Have a catastrophic effect on the wrestling business. I do not want that for the people in the business
945
01:09:28.210 --> 01:09:33.050
And that's not just the wrestlers. It's the production people. It's all the people who make it up
946
01:09:33.050 --> 01:09:37.630
It's just like I don't want them to be sold to saudi arabia either. I don't either
947
01:09:37.630 --> 01:09:43.490
Yeah, because that's going to be awful for the business. I do not like I want them to be successful
948
01:09:43.490 --> 01:09:45.010
I want them to
949
01:09:45.010 --> 01:09:49.210
Make a good product because the better their product is the more eyes
950
01:09:49.210 --> 01:09:52.850
These companies get the better it is for the industry
951
01:09:53.729 --> 01:09:56.420
I may hate them, but I don't want to see them dead
952
01:09:57.220 --> 01:09:58.260
Does it
953
01:09:58.260 --> 01:09:59.700
Make me happy
954
01:10:00.260 --> 01:10:07.860
The idea of paul mcmahon getting fired. Yes, but that's because I yeah it does it does it does make me happy
955
01:10:07.860 --> 01:10:14.540
I think that would be hilarious. Yes, I do because I think one there's people who could do it a lot better and two
956
01:10:14.540 --> 01:10:16.180
100 percent
957
01:10:16.180 --> 01:10:16.640
two
958
01:10:17.240 --> 01:10:19.220
I don't like that guy
959
01:10:19.220 --> 01:10:21.480
He's not a good person. Fuck him
960
01:10:22.020 --> 01:10:25.060
You know what paul mcmahon did he's left his way to his role
961
01:10:25.900 --> 01:10:26.520
I mean
962
01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:27.720
Yeah
963
01:10:28.420 --> 01:10:29.060
um
964
01:10:29.060 --> 01:10:35.980
I just the mcmahons are shit. Okay, just get all of them. Just get them the fuck out of the wrestling business
965
01:10:35.980 --> 01:10:38.460
That would be so good for wwe
966
01:10:39.060 --> 01:10:43.440
To have a genuine fresh start. I mean, there's literally people
967
01:10:43.440 --> 01:10:49.020
Who are saying vince should come back because they think paul's so bad that one
968
01:10:49.020 --> 01:10:51.280
That's fucked up on so many levels
969
01:10:52.040 --> 01:10:53.960
Don't get me started on that
970
01:10:54.520 --> 01:11:01.040
If you're actually nostalgic for vince booking like you've lost the plot entirely and I don't know why you're watching the product
971
01:11:01.040 --> 01:11:02.380
You know what I mean?
972
01:11:03.820 --> 01:11:03.900
um
973
01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:05.120
so
974
01:11:05.120 --> 01:11:10.080
Besides the schadenfreude of of watching these guys get what they deserve
975
01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:13.080
These executives looking like morons
976
01:11:14.240 --> 01:11:20.040
The only thing i've heard about wrestlemania this year is the absolute clusterfuck that is the coding roads
977
01:11:20.040 --> 01:11:27.200
Randy orton pat mcafee jelly roll thing right the insane ticket prices and the lack of perceived value for that price
978
01:11:27.720 --> 01:11:29.860
And the consistently bad creative
979
01:11:29.860 --> 01:11:32.780
I think that's the only match I know
980
01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:37.080
Yeah, I mean I know punk and reigns. That's the other match. I know
981
01:11:38.160 --> 01:11:44.980
It is extremely smart for tony con for aew to pull this shocking title change on their show
982
01:11:45.480 --> 01:11:50.940
Where they can dominate the conversation and make wwe prove they deserve
983
01:11:50.940 --> 01:11:55.520
To die like you shouldn't just get to dominate the conversation because it's wrestlemania
984
01:11:55.520 --> 01:12:02.900
Put on a good wrestlemania. You know what I mean? And it shouldn't be that hard if you don't want it like to be criticized
985
01:12:04.160 --> 01:12:07.120
You should just put on a good show and then you won't need to like
986
01:12:08.080 --> 01:12:10.420
Go into the news cycle and have
987
01:12:10.980 --> 01:12:16.500
Your nick con and paul mcmahon make stupid comments left and right so they're
988
01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:20.820
Like I have seen more about darby from wwe fans
989
01:12:21.400 --> 01:12:23.860
Yep, wwe only fans
990
01:12:23.860 --> 01:12:24.680
Yep
991
01:12:25.360 --> 01:12:27.800
Then they have been talking about wrestlemania
992
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:34.120
This was the smartest marketing move tony con has ever fucking made
993
01:12:34.900 --> 01:12:40.040
It's it's tony growing a lot as a leader of aw. It's
994
01:12:40.040 --> 01:12:42.180
You know like
995
01:12:42.180 --> 01:12:48.120
Up to like them them signing the new deal with with wbd. I would say tony
996
01:12:50.180 --> 01:12:53.400
Tony's biggest distinction from aw
997
01:12:54.120 --> 01:12:58.870
To wwe is like the in-ring product, right? We wrestle here. We're you know
998
01:12:59.380 --> 01:13:04.980
People can blow that off so easily, you know, well, you gotta have characters. That's why they don't tell any stories
999
01:13:04.980 --> 01:13:09.120
That's why that stuff became what it did right? It's not like it was tony's fault
1000
01:13:09.120 --> 01:13:13.560
It's just like that's what he knew to to say is but he
1001
01:13:15.400 --> 01:13:20.070
He has now drawn so many distinctions and I gotta hand it to to mcmahon's
1002
01:13:21.150 --> 01:13:24.810
Uh, and and nick con and fucking re emmanuel
1003
01:13:24.810 --> 01:13:26.310
They have helped
1004
01:13:26.310 --> 01:13:28.310
So much, okay
1005
01:13:29.570 --> 01:13:30.310
um
1006
01:13:30.310 --> 01:13:36.070
Because now aw has drawn so many distinctions that separate them from wwe
1007
01:13:36.630 --> 01:13:38.370
um like
1008
01:13:38.370 --> 01:13:45.350
The ticket prices the absence of mega influencers. There's no one from aw in the trump administration
1009
01:13:46.110 --> 01:13:50.290
The creative is at a high in aw instead of at a low
1010
01:13:50.850 --> 01:13:54.670
Um, and aw has been clearly expanding their tent
1011
01:13:54.670 --> 01:14:01.030
I see people on threads all the time saying i'm watching aw for the first time. It's so fucking good, you know
1012
01:14:01.750 --> 01:14:06.710
It's been it's been pretty consistent now for like almost a year that i've seen that
1013
01:14:06.710 --> 01:14:11.690
And then asking to be caught up on stories because they watch for the first time and are going
1014
01:14:11.690 --> 01:14:17.090
What the hef is happening with these stories because they have now learned
1015
01:14:17.830 --> 01:14:19.830
That there is legitimate stories happening
1016
01:14:20.630 --> 01:14:21.710
Mm-hmm
1017
01:14:21.710 --> 01:14:27.360
Mm-hmm and and you know aw is clearly putting on the shows now for these people
1018
01:14:27.790 --> 01:14:32.550
Uh who are coming over but without betraying the the weekly viewers who have been loyal
1019
01:14:32.550 --> 01:14:35.050
They've done a really good job at
1020
01:14:35.050 --> 01:14:38.430
Explaining stories while not making it the whole show of
1021
01:14:38.950 --> 01:14:41.530
Right and putting on the matches we still want to see
1022
01:14:42.130 --> 01:14:48.430
So yeah, so it's like aw is not going to catch wwe like revenue wise or anything anytime soon
1023
01:14:48.430 --> 01:14:50.490
Okay, but that's not even the point
1024
01:14:51.170 --> 01:14:51.730
what
1025
01:14:52.250 --> 01:14:58.690
What it is is this thing with darby was like hey, you're not gonna be the toast of this week
1026
01:14:58.690 --> 01:15:00.870
Unless you earn it. Yeah
1027
01:15:00.870 --> 01:15:04.730
We're not just gonna roll over and let you have wrestlemania
1028
01:15:05.690 --> 01:15:11.710
Because it's wrestlemania put on a good wrestlemania and earn it take it from us
1029
01:15:12.310 --> 01:15:13.490
it's like
1030
01:15:13.490 --> 01:15:18.210
The aw is wanting to push wwe to put on a better show
1031
01:15:18.210 --> 01:15:25.790
Yeah, because I think even tony knows the more successful wwe is the better wwe is doing the better
1032
01:15:25.790 --> 01:15:27.410
It is for the whole business
1033
01:15:28.390 --> 01:15:30.530
Like and not just
1034
01:15:31.750 --> 01:15:34.930
Because tony cares about the business that he cares about wrestling
1035
01:15:34.930 --> 01:15:39.790
He doesn't just care about his business and that's why he works with so many other promotions
1036
01:15:40.390 --> 01:15:45.310
It's why he'll promote so many promotions. He cares about the health of the business
1037
01:15:45.310 --> 01:15:47.250
And I think it's showing right now
1038
01:15:47.250 --> 01:15:48.270
and
1039
01:15:50.260 --> 01:15:52.020
I think what we're seeing
1040
01:15:53.460 --> 01:15:54.020
is
1041
01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:55.200
competition
1042
01:15:55.200 --> 01:16:01.600
This is aw is well known enough now to compete in the perception wars. Okay
1043
01:16:02.180 --> 01:16:09.380
And they had to be around you see how what branding means right like 20 years of unfiltered wwe branding
1044
01:16:09.380 --> 01:16:14.880
With no other national promotion was hard was a very big barrier to overcome
1045
01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:17.520
And they've done what seven years?
1046
01:16:18.080 --> 01:16:18.440
Right
1047
01:16:18.440 --> 01:16:20.960
It took seven years, but here we are
1048
01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:21.680
and
1049
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:22.980
now
1050
01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:25.720
They're in a real battle here
1051
01:16:26.340 --> 01:16:31.140
And this is why competition is good because you know who determines the winner
1052
01:16:31.140 --> 01:16:33.100
Us we do
1053
01:16:34.080 --> 01:16:35.000
Not them
1054
01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:40.600
Wwe doesn't get to tell you they're the winner. All right, they've been telling you they're the greatest. They're the best
1055
01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:42.500
They're the most wonderful thing for
1056
01:16:43.360 --> 01:16:43.820
decades
1057
01:16:44.280 --> 01:16:46.540
And now they have to prove it
1058
01:16:46.540 --> 01:16:47.040
right
1059
01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:52.460
And ww and aw isn't the new kid on the block anymore that you just get to kick around
1060
01:16:52.460 --> 01:16:57.020
They don't know what they're doing. They don't have all these influencers in their pocket anymore
1061
01:16:57.500 --> 01:16:57.960
right
1062
01:16:57.960 --> 01:16:59.240
so like
1063
01:16:59.240 --> 01:17:05.760
Now you got to earn it. Yeah, I don't think leveque. I don't think I don't think paul mcmahon has it in him to earn it
1064
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:10.100
I don't think he does no because he he's a nepo husband who's left his way to the top
1065
01:17:10.100 --> 01:17:13.380
He doesn't I have said this for a while. I think
1066
01:17:14.100 --> 01:17:18.700
Paul mcmahon got very lucky with the first two wrestle manias. He had a built-in story
1067
01:17:19.240 --> 01:17:20.900
yeah, we saw
1068
01:17:20.900 --> 01:17:23.320
it's why there was such a
1069
01:17:24.120 --> 01:17:30.220
High for them story wise because they were already built in stories now that he's had to create stories
1070
01:17:30.980 --> 01:17:34.920
It has been he has shown that sure he did well on nxt
1071
01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:37.720
NXT is a different ball game
1072
01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:41.200
He is not able to play with the in the big leagues
1073
01:17:41.200 --> 01:17:43.640
and creating compelling stories
1074
01:17:43.640 --> 01:17:44.340
like
1075
01:17:45.120 --> 01:17:49.240
Meanwhile tony con is like, I mean, uh, I know this is like
1076
01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:53.800
Big talk, right? I know to some people this will sound ridiculous and I don't care
1077
01:17:54.880 --> 01:18:01.080
Like degree and I were talking about this like tony con is literally like creating his own wrestling logic
1078
01:18:01.740 --> 01:18:07.760
I said basically to degree. I said he is the best dungeon master i've ever seen in my life
1079
01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:11.120
This guy created an entire universe of his own
1080
01:18:12.160 --> 01:18:15.760
Darby winning creates ripples throughout the entire promotion
1081
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:20.170
There's all everybody's story will be affected by darby winning, you know
1082
01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:25.220
Like he is pulling wrestling forward and demanding it be better
1083
01:18:25.220 --> 01:18:27.040
Than it has been
1084
01:18:27.040 --> 01:18:33.900
As slim pickin said aw reminds me of mcu story mcu with his long-term storytelling and with darby winning
1085
01:18:33.900 --> 01:18:35.880
We have just hit the multiverse
1086
01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:38.300
Yeah, because that's what happened
1087
01:18:39.070 --> 01:18:39.960
Let's see what the chat
1088
01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:42.200
Tony con does better
1089
01:18:43.080 --> 01:18:48.220
Yeah, well, yeah exactly what we what we learned from marvel is that
1090
01:18:48.220 --> 01:18:51.320
Multi-verses aren't understood super well by the average person
1091
01:18:52.320 --> 01:18:53.940
uh blurry line
1092
01:18:55.640 --> 01:19:02.020
Triple h needs to take whatever media class tk took after 2022. I don't think that would that would work honestly
1093
01:19:02.020 --> 01:19:03.500
I don't think he's
1094
01:19:03.500 --> 01:19:05.280
I think it's
1095
01:19:05.280 --> 01:19:06.660
an entitlement to work
1096
01:19:06.660 --> 01:19:12.800
No, I I don't think he can I I don't think he's ever really been that deserving of what he has and so he's
1097
01:19:13.840 --> 01:19:19.300
Uh, it's not to say that he's he's like a completely worthless human being. I don't know the guy i'm just saying like
1098
01:19:20.080 --> 01:19:24.140
He was never a main event caliber performer in my opinion
1099
01:19:24.940 --> 01:19:25.460
um
1100
01:19:26.160 --> 01:19:26.680
and
1101
01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:33.500
You know, he's inherited this head of creative thing from from vince and he was vince's protege and
1102
01:19:34.100 --> 01:19:36.180
You know you can look at
1103
01:19:36.180 --> 01:19:38.840
The style of booking vince did successfully
1104
01:19:39.540 --> 01:19:45.480
And where that ended and it's very commensurate with the rise of triple h as the main guy on raw
1105
01:19:45.480 --> 01:19:51.720
You know, it just is uh big death big ads, uh triple h the future endeavored assassin
1106
01:19:54.260 --> 01:19:58.860
Blurry line, maybe he stood close to rfk jr and the worm crawled out of rob's ear and into
1107
01:20:01.660 --> 01:20:04.640
Always never ton of talent i'll never know I don't watch the fed
1108
01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:08.220
He still books like the old man apparently set sure sounds like it
1109
01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:13.080
No women and uh, lots of countouts and disqualifications as I understand it
1110
01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:16.180
Uh too fat to cook bailey come over to aew
1111
01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:23.120
That would be maybe the premier get for them at this point. I have I have to believe mercedes is in her in her ear
1112
01:20:23.120 --> 01:20:26.360
Oh, yeah, duh. She's
1113
01:20:26.360 --> 01:20:29.560
Mercedes was doing it publicly like of course
1114
01:20:30.320 --> 01:20:33.960
She like when they go on lives together mercedes bullies her
1115
01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:35.300
On lives
1116
01:20:35.300 --> 01:20:40.440
To get her to come and I think that's why she doesn't get pushed the way she is anymore. So
1117
01:20:40.440 --> 01:20:47.540
Yeah, blurry line says they announced the san jose pay-per-view forbidden door and bailey's contract is coming up around the same time
1118
01:20:48.120 --> 01:20:54.200
Like can you imagine bailey premiering on forbidden door because that would actually literally break the forbidden door
1119
01:20:55.000 --> 01:21:02.680
Oh having an ex wwe person premiere on make their debut on forbidden door book it tony book it
1120
01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:08.360
It would be so I have to believe they're in conversation now with two months out. They're 100 for sure
1121
01:21:08.360 --> 01:21:12.200
They're definitely having below the radar talks for sure. Yeah
1122
01:21:12.200 --> 01:21:16.020
Um, yeah, too fat to cook last. I heard her contracts up in june. Yep
1123
01:21:16.020 --> 01:21:17.480
It's always never
1124
01:21:18.120 --> 01:21:22.220
I rarely have wanted fed talent to come over to aew. I want them to have fun in new japan stardom
1125
01:21:22.220 --> 01:21:29.400
But bailey, please bailey. Yeah exactly bailey would 100% do the stardom new japan
1126
01:21:29.400 --> 01:21:30.940
like cmll stuff too
1127
01:21:31.500 --> 01:21:32.700
So like
1128
01:21:32.700 --> 01:21:37.500
I couldn't 100 think that cmll will try and get her on the joint contract. What do I?
1129
01:21:37.860 --> 01:21:38.300
Yeah
1130
01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:40.260
uh the scare glow
1131
01:21:42.020 --> 01:21:46.500
Uh wwe is the worst thing that happened to pro wrestling every time I watch dark side of the ring or read books about wrestling
1132
01:21:46.500 --> 01:21:50.360
I hate that company more sports entertainment sucks aw for life
1133
01:21:50.360 --> 01:21:54.060
You know a lot of people will say it's stupid shit like
1134
01:21:54.660 --> 01:21:58.320
Well, if not for vince mcmahon, we wouldn't have wrestling. Yeah, we would
1135
01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:01.440
It still would have hit it would have hit differently
1136
01:22:01.440 --> 01:22:06.480
He wasn't the first person to try and go national. He was just the one who was successful
1137
01:22:06.480 --> 01:22:13.120
Because he was always like yeah, but there were other promotions trying to do the same thing. So like
1138
01:22:14.280 --> 01:22:14.760
it's
1139
01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:17.420
I you know, they wouldn't maybe not have done it the same
1140
01:22:17.420 --> 01:22:22.580
Maybe they wouldn't have been as successful but pro wrestling's been around for like 150 years
1141
01:22:22.580 --> 01:22:25.500
It's not it's not new vince didn't create it
1142
01:22:26.040 --> 01:22:30.940
Big ads for the last 15 odd years all I've wanted wwe to do is be better and they just haven't
1143
01:22:30.940 --> 01:22:34.980
Not for a prolonged period at least the last seven years. I haven't needed to care if they've been better
1144
01:22:34.980 --> 01:22:41.020
You know, i'll be honest when aw started. I was going to watch all of it. I was going to watch wwe
1145
01:22:42.480 --> 01:22:42.920
and
1146
01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:43.620
aw
1147
01:22:43.620 --> 01:22:48.740
And after like two weeks, I just was like, you know what actually fuck wwe. I'm bored watching that
1148
01:22:49.460 --> 01:22:54.820
And like i'm i'm having a blast. I'm having a blast watching aw like i'll just stick with that
1149
01:22:54.820 --> 01:22:57.960
I remember timing the start of a raw once
1150
01:22:57.960 --> 01:23:00.720
And it took 45 minutes
1151
01:23:01.860 --> 01:23:04.980
For a match start and I was just like i'm over this
1152
01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:07.560
Yeah, this is not fun
1153
01:23:08.380 --> 01:23:12.760
And this is gonna sound like a diss on her and it's not as a diss on them is like I saw page
1154
01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:14.500
You know, it's rumored. She's signed
1155
01:23:14.500 --> 01:23:16.120
To uh ww
1156
01:23:16.120 --> 01:23:20.020
She's perfect, right? I don't think she even wants to wrestle
1157
01:23:20.020 --> 01:23:25.200
And she's a good comedy character that can like choke down like
1158
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:29.340
15 minutes of time so they don't have to wrestle on raw
1159
01:23:29.340 --> 01:23:32.260
They want you to be on the mic for 15 minutes like
1160
01:23:32.660 --> 01:23:36.400
Trying to entertain the crowd because god forbid you actually watch wrestling at a wrestling show
1161
01:23:38.160 --> 01:23:43.460
The the raw this raw that just happened at 35 minutes of wrestling for three and a half hours
1162
01:23:43.460 --> 01:23:45.900
I understand it's the monday before
1163
01:23:45.900 --> 01:23:52.500
WrestleMania but there's enough talent in the locker room that's sitting in catering that could have loved the opportunity to have a match before
1164
01:23:52.500 --> 01:23:58.560
Wrestlemania. Oh, yeah 35 minutes of wrestling for a three-hour show or two and a half whatever it was
1165
01:24:00.380 --> 01:24:01.260
35 minutes
1166
01:24:01.260 --> 01:24:04.740
Slim pigging with a fair point. Does it really fall onto paul though think dwayne?
1167
01:24:04.740 --> 01:24:09.640
I can only imagine how much bs he has regarding creative decisions fuck paul though. No doubt
1168
01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:15.880
I mean, it's a fair thing to say but he is the head of creative in wwe. I have to hold him responsible
1169
01:24:15.900 --> 01:24:16.740
literally
1170
01:24:17.820 --> 01:24:21.780
My conspiracy theory is is that tko wants to blame?
1171
01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:24.160
paul
1172
01:24:24.160 --> 01:24:26.320
Because they're not seeing
1173
01:24:26.320 --> 01:24:30.420
Bottom line and paul wants to blame tko because he doesn't want to be the bad guy
1174
01:24:30.420 --> 01:24:33.700
Well, and I think that t I I think that aria manuel
1175
01:24:33.700 --> 01:24:39.640
Sees wwe as a breeding ground for like stars and stuff because at the end of the day, don't forget
1176
01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:42.200
He's a talent agent. That's what it's all he cares about
1177
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:44.960
Like pat mcafee is his client
1178
01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:49.560
Like he doesn't care if it makes for a great wrestlemania moment
1179
01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:53.900
He's like pat mcafee is trying to get into acting and this will boost his profile
1180
01:24:53.900 --> 01:24:59.840
So like that's what wwe is to him. He had cody rhodes come out as the street fighter character the other day
1181
01:24:59.840 --> 01:25:01.080
For what reason?
1182
01:25:03.340 --> 01:25:05.960
To amuse me
1183
01:25:06.620 --> 01:25:10.740
Yeah, you'll make is like actually like doing the void like
1184
01:25:11.740 --> 01:25:16.540
The motion capture for one of them you don't see him doing that
1185
01:25:18.080 --> 01:25:18.520
Yes
1186
01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:23.800
Um blary line also, we need to blame wwe more for portraying trump as a baby face agreed
1187
01:25:24.420 --> 01:25:24.860
agreed
1188
01:25:24.860 --> 01:25:26.380
My god
1189
01:25:26.380 --> 01:25:29.640
Scareglow the argument that wwe makes more money is a bad argument
1190
01:25:29.640 --> 01:25:34.740
Is our favorite band movie or book the one that makes the most money or is it the art that speaks to you?
1191
01:25:34.740 --> 01:25:38.740
I've been saying that as a you know, a guy who's put out a lot of records and stuff
1192
01:25:38.740 --> 01:25:44.420
I've been saying that for years. Yeah, the velvet underground sold zero records in their own time
1193
01:25:44.420 --> 01:25:50.400
And they're one of the most legendary bands of all time the stooges made zero dollars in their own time
1194
01:25:50.400 --> 01:25:52.760
One of the most influential punk bands of all time
1195
01:25:53.980 --> 01:25:54.500
um
1196
01:25:54.500 --> 01:25:56.000
Yeah, yeah
1197
01:25:56.620 --> 01:25:57.540
um guys
1198
01:25:57.540 --> 01:26:04.020
I hate to do this. I got it. I got kind of a heart out today because I have uh some stuff happening tonight
1199
01:26:04.840 --> 01:26:05.360
so
1200
01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:09.280
We're gonna just keep reading and then we're gonna sign out. Is that cool with you books?
1201
01:26:10.040 --> 01:26:11.020
Yeah, that's fine
1202
01:26:11.020 --> 01:26:14.060
You got anything more you wanted to get in before before I start reading
1203
01:26:15.630 --> 01:26:19.210
Like are you reading comments? Are we going into our our then?
1204
01:26:20.170 --> 01:26:23.150
Oh, we oh shit. Yeah, we didn't talk about our our connection
1205
01:26:23.870 --> 01:26:24.330
Okay
1206
01:26:25.030 --> 01:26:29.110
So before I read more comments, let's make our last point here
1207
01:26:29.630 --> 01:26:30.090
Yes
1208
01:26:30.090 --> 01:26:33.590
Kenny and will had an incredible promo together
1209
01:26:34.230 --> 01:26:38.070
I think this is the best acting i've ever seen from kenny omega. Oh my goodness
1210
01:26:38.070 --> 01:26:40.930
I so good very mad. I was upset
1211
01:26:41.630 --> 01:26:42.970
I'm still not okay
1212
01:26:44.210 --> 01:26:51.730
So will is talking to kenny comes into the trainer's room will is in there and they're both kind of lamenting losing right?
1213
01:26:53.530 --> 01:26:54.050
and
1214
01:26:54.850 --> 01:26:57.610
Oh boy, you have kenny again. Um
1215
01:26:57.610 --> 01:26:58.630
and so
1216
01:26:58.630 --> 01:27:00.070
He's just here
1217
01:27:00.070 --> 01:27:04.410
Okay, and so it's an emotional support kenny nice. Um
1218
01:27:04.410 --> 01:27:06.390
so then
1219
01:27:06.870 --> 01:27:07.350
kenny
1220
01:27:07.350 --> 01:27:09.690
and will you know
1221
01:27:09.690 --> 01:27:12.050
Will's like, you know, we got to get back on the
1222
01:27:12.810 --> 01:27:16.770
The horse, you know and and kenny goes, I don't I don't know that I have more time
1223
01:27:17.570 --> 01:27:19.750
and will goes hey mate, you know like
1224
01:27:21.090 --> 01:27:22.770
We're we both have more time
1225
01:27:22.770 --> 01:27:26.990
We both have we both have to get back there and do this and kenny's like
1226
01:27:26.990 --> 01:27:32.150
I don't know and will kisses him on the head and says you're my hero and walks out of the room
1227
01:27:33.170 --> 01:27:38.230
And kenny just kind of like he's got tears in his eyes and he goes i'm your hero
1228
01:27:41.210 --> 01:27:46.670
Maybe maybe I can't give up in the arena as this is happening
1229
01:27:47.570 --> 01:27:51.630
We are booing kenny when he's like talking about giving up
1230
01:27:51.630 --> 01:27:54.950
And then when he's like, maybe I can't give up we
1231
01:27:55.530 --> 01:27:56.850
popped huge
1232
01:27:59.030 --> 01:28:00.290
is this
1233
01:28:00.990 --> 01:28:03.630
The main event of all in I think so
1234
01:28:04.210 --> 01:28:07.350
My is this foreshadowing the main event of all in yes
1235
01:28:07.890 --> 01:28:12.830
So this is my new theory one kenny needs the young box more than he thinks
1236
01:28:14.430 --> 01:28:17.150
The young bucks need kenny more than they think
1237
01:28:19.050 --> 01:28:23.330
That's going to help kenny refine his kenny-ness
1238
01:28:24.410 --> 01:28:24.930
um
1239
01:28:24.930 --> 01:28:26.730
but I think
1240
01:28:27.750 --> 01:28:33.300
I do think now it's going to be kenny beating will at all in
1241
01:28:35.950 --> 01:28:38.030
You think kenny's gonna beat will
1242
01:28:38.770 --> 01:28:39.310
Yeah
1243
01:28:39.310 --> 01:28:43.160
I was gonna get that. I think will might beat darby and kenny will beat will
1244
01:28:44.250 --> 01:28:47.950
See I see it the other way. I see kenny beating darby
1245
01:28:50.510 --> 01:28:51.950
um, I
1246
01:28:51.950 --> 01:28:54.330
Think it's going to
1247
01:28:55.010 --> 01:28:59.590
Um, yeah, that's I i'm with clear the line here. It's going to be kenny's gonna help will
1248
01:28:59.590 --> 01:29:01.750
It's going to
1249
01:29:02.690 --> 01:29:05.370
It can I think kenny's going to win as a heel
1250
01:29:07.150 --> 01:29:07.710
Oh
1251
01:29:09.020 --> 01:29:11.420
Okay, okay
1252
01:29:12.060 --> 01:29:14.060
Interesting. I hadn't even thought of that
1253
01:29:14.500 --> 01:29:16.900
Because I mean kenny's not winning as a base
1254
01:29:16.900 --> 01:29:22.180
Kenny's been a heel many times. I mean, yeah, he's not winning as a base. So
1255
01:29:22.180 --> 01:29:23.040
Wow
1256
01:29:24.240 --> 01:29:25.840
Wow, wow. Wow
1257
01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:30.500
Will at all in would give him such
1258
01:29:30.900 --> 01:29:36.110
It would give him heat but in the best way not in a crowd actually hates him
1259
01:29:37.860 --> 01:29:44.000
So you think will he turn heel in the match to beat will yeah, I think so
1260
01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:46.250
I also think kenny is going to win the owen
1261
01:29:47.480 --> 01:29:49.680
And that's going to help him
1262
01:29:52.370 --> 01:29:57.670
I really like find himself again because I think that would if I
1263
01:29:57.670 --> 01:29:59.330
was martha
1264
01:29:59.330 --> 01:30:01.790
I would want someone like kenny
1265
01:30:01.790 --> 01:30:06.270
To have that lineage of like kenny's name to be in that lineage
1266
01:30:07.350 --> 01:30:09.770
Guys i'm not in control of my body at the moment
1267
01:30:09.770 --> 01:30:15.410
Like i'm just dancing in my chair because I really really like this for a long time and i'm like
1268
01:30:16.290 --> 01:30:22.170
I I would put kenny's name in the owen heart like lineage. Yeah
1269
01:30:23.330 --> 01:30:23.810
Yeah
1270
01:30:24.470 --> 01:30:29.570
Kenny also he'll wipe his ass with the british flag at wembley like will did in canada bleary line says
1271
01:30:29.570 --> 01:30:33.570
It would just I think it would just like refuel that
1272
01:30:35.590 --> 01:30:36.630
Rivalry too
1273
01:30:36.630 --> 01:30:39.990
Uh-huh a little bit and I think I don't like kenny may not
1274
01:30:40.590 --> 01:30:41.810
Keep it that long
1275
01:30:41.810 --> 01:30:43.810
But I think it would
1276
01:30:43.810 --> 01:30:49.330
Kenny is a better champion as a heel not as a baby face. Oh, I agree. I agree well and also
1277
01:30:51.310 --> 01:30:56.030
Kenny turned heel during the match with mox where he won the title. Yeah
1278
01:30:56.870 --> 01:30:57.390
so
1279
01:30:58.170 --> 01:31:00.270
My god that
1280
01:31:01.170 --> 01:31:07.530
That is delicious. That is a delicious theory. You guys are way smarter than me. Wow
1281
01:31:11.670 --> 01:31:15.630
But i'm just saying like i'm looking at like if this is penny's last run
1282
01:31:15.630 --> 01:31:21.470
I would if I was martha, I would want kenny's name in the i would want kenny's name to be attached to the owen heart
1283
01:31:22.030 --> 01:31:24.210
mm-hmm found it like
1284
01:31:24.210 --> 01:31:25.050
Mm-hmm
1285
01:31:25.650 --> 01:31:28.290
Like I would want that name to be attached like
1286
01:31:30.090 --> 01:31:33.570
And I think it would be a really interesting kenny
1287
01:31:35.490 --> 01:31:42.130
Will wins kenny is his hero like this is the first time like will has like acknowledged kenny outside of like
1288
01:31:42.590 --> 01:31:46.850
Like will was his protege right and now will is saying like okay. Not only was I your protege
1289
01:31:46.850 --> 01:31:49.730
You were my hero. You are someone I look up to you are like
1290
01:31:51.450 --> 01:31:52.030
Oh
1291
01:31:52.030 --> 01:31:55.530
It would be like mariah and tony but somehow
1292
01:31:55.530 --> 01:31:57.270
so different
1293
01:31:57.890 --> 01:32:05.370
And like so good on a different level. I'm just thinking about that promo now through this perspective and i'm like, oh wow
1294
01:32:06.080 --> 01:32:10.390
You can see how they set it all up. I immediately caught that I was like, oh
1295
01:32:10.390 --> 01:32:11.190
Oh
1296
01:32:11.190 --> 01:32:14.170
I see I can see where this could be going
1297
01:32:14.170 --> 01:32:17.880
And that's great will because will's more motivated right now, right?
1298
01:32:18.420 --> 01:32:23.220
Uh-huh, so will will put maybe beat darby at like double or nothing
1299
01:32:24.320 --> 01:32:26.560
or forbidding doors something like that
1300
01:32:29.120 --> 01:32:30.080
And then
1301
01:32:30.900 --> 01:32:33.620
Usually the owen heart is that for all a so
1302
01:32:33.620 --> 01:32:38.400
Right. Well, they and they do it a double or nothing and then they build it for the whole summer, you know, yeah
1303
01:32:41.040 --> 01:32:41.520
hmm
1304
01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:42.940
You're welcome
1305
01:32:43.680 --> 01:32:46.020
Jesus christ, holy shit. I hope you're right
1306
01:32:46.860 --> 01:32:50.920
Um, I hope so too. I'm like this this would be
1307
01:32:50.920 --> 01:32:55.350
Wild everybody get your chats in we're we're gonna be reading through these
1308
01:32:56.140 --> 01:32:57.440
Uh ori by
1309
01:32:58.060 --> 01:33:04.820
Oribile I want to get this off my chest whenever they get the chance wwe celebrates the military in attendance. Imagine being from the
1310
01:33:04.820 --> 01:33:06.820
Global south and watching this streamed
1311
01:33:07.660 --> 01:33:12.910
Uh, yes, exactly. I mean imagine you're like in a place the wwe like
1312
01:33:13.660 --> 01:33:15.480
or the that the u.s is
1313
01:33:16.340 --> 01:33:19.760
Invading or like yeah occupying. Yeah, absolutely
1314
01:33:21.320 --> 01:33:22.360
um, it's
1315
01:33:22.360 --> 01:33:22.660
Yeah
1316
01:33:22.660 --> 01:33:28.720
Uh big ads all he did on nxc was take talents and stories that worked in japan or roh and repackaged them to fed heads
1317
01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:35.700
Who hadn't seen any of it exploitative is the word exactly. You don't think sammy zane and kevin owens had ever feuded anywhere else before?
1318
01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:37.000
um
1319
01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:38.500
I'm really sorry
1320
01:33:39.060 --> 01:33:44.980
I just got tagged in something at darby posted this like I don't know when but mjf is texting him
1321
01:33:44.980 --> 01:33:50.820
You cheated giving my belt back block me as many times as you want. I'm gonna keep contacting you
1322
01:33:50.820 --> 01:33:55.900
I got mad burners. You hit me in the nuts. You little sheep shit. You're a fucking nobody
1323
01:33:55.900 --> 01:33:59.120
You don't deserve that belt. Give it back
1324
01:34:03.860 --> 01:34:09.160
I take my belt back. I'm gonna send you a video of me thanking her. She's
1325
01:34:09.160 --> 01:34:10.340
She's ugly
1326
01:34:12.820 --> 01:34:19.490
I'm really sorry. I had to I had to stop because that is hilarious
1327
01:34:19.490 --> 01:34:20.030
Uh
1328
01:34:21.290 --> 01:34:28.110
The scare glow i'm canadian and I hate nickelback. I believe this was in response to a different comment that I skipped over. Sorry
1329
01:34:28.110 --> 01:34:31.930
Always never I love that tony doesn't lean on all the usual wrestling trips
1330
01:34:31.930 --> 01:34:35.210
I love how unpredictable the product has been the past two years
1331
01:34:35.810 --> 01:34:39.430
I feel like he listened a lot from both stuff, which I love
1332
01:34:39.990 --> 01:34:44.750
I feel like he listened to the early episodes of this show and was like oh you fucking smart asses think you know
1333
01:34:44.750 --> 01:34:46.330
so much fuck you
1334
01:34:46.890 --> 01:34:54.370
And then he just has humiliated me and dunked on me for two years, um slim pick and i'm scottish and black and I do too
1335
01:34:56.270 --> 01:34:58.430
Um the scare glow hell, yeah
1336
01:35:01.900 --> 01:35:07.680
Some pick, uh, okay. We're talking amongst ourselves here. Uh always never I never liked paul and I like him less now
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01:35:07.680 --> 01:35:11.060
And I never liked the mcmahon's I feel vindicated. Hell. Yeah
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01:35:11.060 --> 01:35:12.680
Uh, hell, yeah
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01:35:13.160 --> 01:35:16.600
Uh scare glow my wife and I were in vancouver. We would have went to washington
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But we are boycotting the states for now, which is sad. My mom was born in seattle
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I don't blame you don't blame me at all
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01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:25.640
All right, let's um
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01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:33.580
So, yeah blurry line says kenny's gonna help will win the title then turn on him because he feels like he needs every advantage
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to help him
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01:35:35.680 --> 01:35:36.120
um
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01:35:36.120 --> 01:35:38.480
Get one last rain. Ah
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01:35:38.480 --> 01:35:40.840
Yeah, um
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01:35:40.840 --> 01:35:43.140
Oh, that's good shit scare glow
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01:35:43.140 --> 01:35:47.940
I love how aw can elevate their stars when they lose kenny will mox roderick strong, etc
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01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:54.260
Totally slim pick and heel kenny sign me the fuck up. Yep. Yeah agreed. We definitely need a heel kenny
1351
01:35:54.900 --> 01:35:56.740
Yeah, it's been way too long
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01:35:56.740 --> 01:36:03.000
The scare glow i'd love to see kenny as the cleaner again, please like one big crazy heel run with the title
1353
01:36:03.540 --> 01:36:06.220
That'd be fun. That'd be damn fun. He's sephiroth
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01:36:06.220 --> 01:36:12.420
Like you don't have the one wing angel as your thing and you don't have like a heel theme and you don't be heel
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01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:13.520
like
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01:36:14.380 --> 01:36:21.420
Well, even so a great comment from blurry line here aew and will and kenny in particular do not forget anything
1357
01:36:21.420 --> 01:36:24.500
did you notice in the mjf match like
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01:36:25.140 --> 01:36:32.560
They almost did a re they did a replay basically of what happened with swerving kenny when he pulled obri in front of the v
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01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:33.520
Trigger
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01:36:33.520 --> 01:36:37.020
Mjf pulled the ref in front of and that was where kenny was doomed
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01:36:37.020 --> 01:36:42.080
Like that happened in the swerve match. He was screwed and it happened in the mjf match
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01:36:42.420 --> 01:36:47.400
That's where he got screwed. It's there's this poetry to everything kenny omega does
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01:36:47.400 --> 01:36:49.140
that is
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01:36:49.140 --> 01:36:55.220
I mean, he's so much more than just like a great athlete, you know, he's one of the greatest storytellers ever
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01:36:56.480 --> 01:36:56.960
um
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01:36:56.960 --> 01:37:01.700
Uh big ads, I think kenny versus will is the owen final winner will face mjf at all in after he gets the belt back
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01:37:01.700 --> 01:37:04.600
From darby interesting blurry line there
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01:37:05.200 --> 01:37:09.080
Yeah, I mean I can see that happening blurry line seven
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01:37:09.080 --> 01:37:11.820
They remember every detail that that could be picked up on
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01:37:11.820 --> 01:37:18.300
You know the bucks are that way too. Um, every time the bucks have ever beaten fdr matt jackson loses one of his shoes
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01:37:19.660 --> 01:37:20.120
um
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01:37:20.120 --> 01:37:24.940
Seriously, he loses one of his shoes and super kicks a guy with his bare foot and pins him
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01:37:24.940 --> 01:37:29.100
It's uh, it's it's just wild wild
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01:37:31.340 --> 01:37:31.800
um
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01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:37.180
Kenny is watching the guy he entrusted new japan to after he left the guy who hill entrust aw2 when he retires
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01:37:37.180 --> 01:37:38.240
He's not ready
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01:37:40.380 --> 01:37:45.520
Um slim picking i'll show the fuck out after this when you think we will get jay and buddy returning
1378
01:37:45.520 --> 01:37:47.820
Let's not give it up on jay white. I
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01:37:49.220 --> 01:37:56.200
I'm not talking about it. Um bex has put out a missing poster for jay white because we're just we need
1380
01:37:56.200 --> 01:37:58.280
We need jay white back so bad
1381
01:37:58.280 --> 01:38:01.600
because jay needs to be an aw world champion like
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01:38:02.700 --> 01:38:08.440
And buddy, you know, it turned out his foot was in real bad shape. He had nerve damage in his foot
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01:38:08.440 --> 01:38:13.620
So hopefully he can return hopefully he's the same guy when he does and same for jay
1384
01:38:13.620 --> 01:38:17.800
I know jaya ended up with shoulder surgery, which is very serious surgery
1385
01:38:17.800 --> 01:38:20.620
It sounds like ria's going through some stuff to you right now
1386
01:38:20.620 --> 01:38:23.320
So I wouldn't be surprised if that affects
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01:38:23.320 --> 01:38:28.280
Yes, buddy returning and props to ria by the way for being so open about what she's going through
1388
01:38:28.280 --> 01:38:34.080
You can listen to me rant about it when folks and bex comes out. So yeah, fuck all the people
1389
01:38:34.080 --> 01:38:39.740
On ria, she's like she didn't owe you guys an explanation in the first place, but um
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01:38:40.500 --> 01:38:41.520
huge huge
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01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:45.260
Guts to to be able to talk about that
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01:38:45.260 --> 01:38:45.860
Yeah
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01:38:47.960 --> 01:38:48.600
um
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01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:52.700
Uh blurry line seven. I got mad burners is fucking iconic of an mjf line
1395
01:38:52.700 --> 01:38:57.760
Yeah, I actually like mjf had mad have mad burners, too. So
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01:38:57.760 --> 01:38:58.440
Ah
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01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:05.940
Blurry line seven the scare glow claims he woke up one morning and discovered the truth america stinks the brat heart quote. Yes
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01:39:05.940 --> 01:39:08.780
I love that. Yeah
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01:39:08.780 --> 01:39:14.800
Slim pick and fyi the scottish and black comment was regarding nickelback and how just because a band has the most money
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01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:16.960
doesn't make it the best just
1401
01:39:16.960 --> 01:39:22.520
Yes. Yes. Yes. Just want to let you know. Yeah, I I agree like I nickelback sucks
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01:39:22.520 --> 01:39:24.000
um, but also
1403
01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:26.260
most of the things that are hugely popular
1404
01:39:26.820 --> 01:39:32.880
Are not good. They're just popular, you know, and that's something that I feel like
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01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:36.800
you know, it's not like people who are younger don't realize this it's just like
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01:39:36.800 --> 01:39:38.040
You know
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01:39:38.040 --> 01:39:41.640
I'm like right on the cusp of gen x. I'm a zennial, right?
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01:39:42.680 --> 01:39:43.940
cusp of gen x
1409
01:39:43.940 --> 01:39:45.740
Uh very beginning of millennials
1410
01:39:46.260 --> 01:39:50.380
but like being a rebel or being like non-commercial was like
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01:39:50.820 --> 01:39:53.080
a goal, you know and like
1412
01:39:53.980 --> 01:40:01.720
It's it's been so weird watching the aew conversation over the last seven years with people just like bootlicking corporatism, you know
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01:40:03.340 --> 01:40:03.860
um
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01:40:03.860 --> 01:40:04.880
Yeah, anyway
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01:40:05.860 --> 01:40:06.380
um
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01:40:06.380 --> 01:40:07.020
Tino
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01:40:07.020 --> 01:40:08.100
Tino my man
1418
01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:12.880
Just coming in don't know what we're talking about books is right and blade is wrong. Well, fair enough
1419
01:40:12.880 --> 01:40:13.580
probably
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01:40:13.580 --> 01:40:18.540
Actually probably correct on that one. Oh, he's never I love how aew doesn't forget shit
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01:40:18.540 --> 01:40:22.720
We don't need long promos. We have years of stories to pull from very good point
1422
01:40:23.080 --> 01:40:27.820
Very good point and in the odd time you do get a long promo. There's a good reason for it
1423
01:40:27.820 --> 01:40:31.880
Yeah, I think I one of the earlier episodes on here. I said
1424
01:40:31.880 --> 01:40:35.260
to me aew storytelling is reminiscent of like a
1425
01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:37.560
A tolkien a game of thrones
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01:40:38.720 --> 01:40:43.040
on how a small detail from a random sentence and
1427
01:40:43.560 --> 01:40:47.520
One book will be so important like eight books later
1428
01:40:47.520 --> 01:40:52.280
And as we've gotten I feel like that's now like a year later
1429
01:40:52.840 --> 01:40:58.120
Since I said that and i'm like i'm like they've proved it over and over again
1430
01:40:59.420 --> 01:41:03.420
Tina ibara nickelback is canadian creed and vice versa
1431
01:41:04.460 --> 01:41:07.820
In our last comment who is it from oh
1432
01:41:08.580 --> 01:41:11.400
It's from my cousin. I won't hear this slander about nickelback
1433
01:41:11.960 --> 01:41:15.200
I'm gonna mind my business and look at this photograph
1434
01:41:16.320 --> 01:41:22.020
From that video now i'm sadly now i'm singing this song instead of oh god. Oh no
1435
01:41:22.020 --> 01:41:23.640
I don't want that song stuck in my head
1436
01:41:24.220 --> 01:41:24.740
tony
1437
01:41:24.740 --> 01:41:31.260
I knew when we were talking about the nickelback slander tony was gonna get upset and they are his favorite band and
1438
01:41:31.880 --> 01:41:37.780
I'm sorry, man. I definitely got more tolkienian with leo golem rush. Very true
1439
01:41:37.780 --> 01:41:39.520
We didn't get to talk about that
1440
01:41:39.520 --> 01:41:45.480
We will talk about that when I come back in two weeks because next week i'm taking it off because i'm getting prepared
1441
01:41:45.480 --> 01:41:50.600
To launch pro wrestling forever. Make sure you search for pro wrestling forever pod
1442
01:41:50.600 --> 01:41:53.400
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1443
01:41:54.100 --> 01:42:00.680
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01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:02.720
Books, where can the people find you?
1445
01:42:03.040 --> 01:42:05.900
I'm at books and body slams everywhere
1446
01:42:07.660 --> 01:42:08.200
everywhere
1447
01:42:09.980 --> 01:42:13.720
Everywhere and i'm i blade daily everywhere and
1448
01:42:14.580 --> 01:42:19.820
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01:42:19.820 --> 01:42:23.160
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1450
01:42:23.160 --> 01:42:25.500
And until next time i'm blade daily
1451
01:42:27.120 --> 01:42:28.120
And i'm bucks
1452
01:42:28.780 --> 01:42:33.660
Oh, wait, wait. I'm also kenny. No one kicks out of the one wings angel
1453
01:42:35.620 --> 01:42:36.960
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