Sit Down Shut Up Mark Out Ep. 111

May 30

AEW's summer landscape changed dramatically in the wake of Double or Nothing. Konosuke Takeshita finally secured the signature victory fans have been waiting years to see, defeating Kazuchika Okada and establishing himself as a true main-event player. Meanwhile, Kevin Knight stunned the wrestling world with a heel turn that immediately elevated his profile and created new possibilities across multiple storylines. Add in the increasingly complicated dynamic between Will Ospreay, Kenny Omega, and Jon Moxley, and AEW appears to be entering one of its most compelling stretches of the year as the road to All In begins.

Yet despite all of the excitement surrounding the men's division, a growing number of fans have become concerned about the presentation of the AEW Women's Division. On a three-hour episode of Dynamite, women received only a brief squash match and a Lights Out match that didn't begin until nearly 11 PM Eastern. With little time devoted to promos, vignettes, or character development, questions about the division's direction have become impossible to ignore. This week, Blade Daily, Books and Bodyslams, and Innitbab discuss whether those concerns are justified, why the topic generates such passionate reactions, and what AEW can do to better showcase one of the most talented women's rosters in professional wrestling.

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Sicko's Club.
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Hey, come here.
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You like pro wrestling?
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We got a little sum-sum for you.
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Two fans, 3,000 miles away.
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We've each been watching for more than 30 years.
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Celebrate the art form.
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The homoeroticism.
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We hate great matches.
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We hate analyzing stories.
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We hate experts.
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We just sit down, shut up, and bark.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to another edition.
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Sit down, shut up, bark out.
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A pro wrestling podcast about pro wrestling.
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Shocking, I know.
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And I'm joined once again, shocking, I know, by my friend, Quix.
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Quix, hello.
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Hello, Slop Tarts.
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Hello, Blade.
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Yes.
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Happy Friday.
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I didn't know if you were talking to me or them when you said Slop Tart, but then you said Slop Tarts.
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And I was like, OK, it's them.
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Well, I figured I'd also give you a special shout out.
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I'm trying to put Slop Tarts back into my vocabulary because not being on TikTok, I've really dropped off on the Slop Tarts talk.
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And man, I love that word.
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It's fantastic.
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It really is fantastic.
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I've seen so much fan art of people referencing Slop Tarts.
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It's just absolutely amazing.
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I can't believe they didn't trademark that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, Tony Storm just gave them so much gold.
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You know what I mean?
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Just like mint money from this.
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So first things first, speaking of Professor Degree, Books Degree and I were live on Monday.
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We did our first episode of Shut Up Forever, the combined show of Sit Down, Shut Up, Mark Out and Pro Wrestling Forever, where we reviewed doubler nothing and books.
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It was a lot of fun.
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We had a great time.
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It was a very long episode, too.
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It was.
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Well, we had a lot to say.
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We had a lot to say.
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You don't have that caliber of pay-per-view and not go on and on and on.
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Yeah, no, totally.
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That's true.
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It was a five hour show and we did a three hour review.
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So, you know, I think that's a pretty good ratio.
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So if you haven't already, please like, subscribe to our channel, please like the video, click the notification bell, leave a comment, tell a friend, tell your grandmother, tell somebody who cares.
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Okay, because we are talking about the wrestling we see on the screen, not the wrestling shit that everybody else talks about that.
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Nobody actually cares about all that much.
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All right.
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We don't care about ticket sales.
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We don't care about pay-per-view buys unless it's a W and they're doing good.
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Then we'll talk about it.
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But if it's bad, we don't talk about it.
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We just move right on.
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But speaking of pro wrestling forever, this Monday, professor degree and I are doing our first episode of into the wrestle verse where we explore the possibility that didn't happen.
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That almost happened of Ric Flair debuting in WWF at summer slam, 1998, which was rumored at the time.
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Would if without Ric Flair, would Ted Turner even by JCP with WCW even exist?
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What would happen to everyone else on the roster?
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Well, how would that impact Savage and Hogan?
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What about Hogan and the warrior on Monday?
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You tune in with us at 6 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Central, 3 p.m. Pacific.
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We'll be talking all about it.
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Yeah, I'm really excited for for you guys to see it all because we've done an unnecessary amount of research to prepare for it.
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Oh, I can't wait to watch.
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Yeah, our fantasy book and little hearts are going to be full when we did that show on Monday books.
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There weren't a ton of show reviews live yet, but it's been pretty much uniform since then.
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People I've seen people call double or nothing the show of the year, AEW's best ever show.
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And some are calling it the best pay per view of all time.
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That's what I've called it.
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And I mean, now, mind you, I haven't seen a lot of WWE things.
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And my only previous one was Halloween Havoc, which was not a pay per view.
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But I'm going to consider it one.
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I would consider this the best pay per view I've ever watched.
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It's yeah, it's I'm trying to let the recency bias subside just a little bit.
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I was actually scared to go back and rewatch any of it because I loved it so much in the moment that I was like, if it's any less than what I remember, I'm going to be so sad.
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And it was just as good.
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In fact, at times better because it wasn't like, oh, what's going to happen.
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It was like just sitting being completely present.
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You know, I watched Okada into cash again.
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Fantastic match.
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Jesus Christ.
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Swerve in Bandito again.
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Holy shit.
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I'm a little surprised Meltzer didn't give either one of those.
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I'm surprised Okada and Takeshita didn't get more than five.
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But yeah, what the hell?
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I didn't I didn't I didn't really see much of the ratings other than that Athena.
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I looked at his women ones and I quickly.
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Dave, you're an asshole.
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Dave is a part of the problem.
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Blair line said having flair and warrior on the same roster feels very wrong.
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And yet they did it twice.
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1992 the ultimate warrior comes back to WWF.
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Rick flair the same night.
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Rick flair loses the world title to Randy Savage and then flair and the warrior wrestle each other on house shows.
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And 1998 warrior comes to WCW while flares there to face the Hulkster.
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Yeah, it wasn't a W's best show ever, but it was a W's most consistent show ever.
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Like there was zero dips.
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Blair line that much.
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I could definitely agree.
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Even the part involving Jericho was good.
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It wasn't it wasn't like a bathroom break, which it wasn't a bathroom break.
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And I I think the construction of this show was perfect because of several things.
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And real quickly, I'm just going to say having some heel turns made a big difference.
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OK, having having Kyle Fletcher do his turn on the pay-per-view was a lot better than waiting to dynamite.
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OK, too often I feel like the big moments get brushed by too quickly on pay-per-views to get to the next match.
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And they didn't do that on this show.
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The Kevin Knight heel turn obviously was like, what the fuck?
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And then the show went off the air.
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But the other thing that I think made a huge difference was Stadium Stampede and having something kind of goofy if it made for a nice change of pace.
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And you don't need to do something that epic and goofy every show.
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But doing it once in a while really added to the presentation, I thought.
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Yeah, there was no there wasn't a pacing issue, which sometimes I think A.W. has a pacing issue with pay-per-views where they'll they just pace wrong.
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But this it was perfectly paced, like one of the few compliments I will give Tony Khan this week.
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Not going to lie, if A.W. are doing shows without Jericho pee break matches, then I want a five minute intermission.
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I missed the first few minutes of mocks and Kyle because I went to get some cake.
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Well, fair enough. And that's a very valid reason.
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It was a long match, as I expected it to be.
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So that was good. That was a good choice.
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But that's not why we're here today, books.
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No, it's not.
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It's not why we're here.
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And unfortunately, while we're here, the main topic of today's session is what the fuck is going on with the A.W. women's division.
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Now, over the last several months, you and I have been noting each and every episode where it feels like there was very few women, barely any women.
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Like two women, three women, four women.
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Right. I've mentioned it on threads a few times, but this episode of Dynamite was so egregious that you in a group chat we were all in got so fucking pissed.
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You're like, I've got to fucking raise hell.
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And you left the group chat and like 15 minutes and I went over on threads and fucking chaos everywhere.
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Just like that city burning meme, like with a little Muppet on it that just says chaos or whatever.
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That's what that felt like because you just tapped into the zeitgeist of how people were feeling in that moment.
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I calculated for on three hour show.
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Women had less than 30 minutes of straight time.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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It was a three hour show.
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Yep. Yep.
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And it was really unevenly distributed in the first place.
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You have the brawling birds have a promo.
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I think at the beginning of our two or something like that, then Ty Jay have like a two minute squash match towards the end of our to 10 o'clock.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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And then you have you have a lights out match at the end of the show for an overrun.
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It was 11 p.m. on the East Coast.
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By the time she didn't start were in the ring.
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Mm hmm. Fucking ridiculous.
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Oh, as someone pointed out that a lot of a lot of like recording like stuff will stop after three hours.
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So there is probably like a good chance that some people didn't actually get to see that match, which is so stupid on all of their parts.
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Yep. Well, and what's what what tells you everything you need to know is think about every other three hour show they've ever done.
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Okay.
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When has the main event the thing they most wanted you to see gone on right at the end of the show?
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It never never. It's always in the first hour or the second hour.
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They're never ever going to put it in the third hour.
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No, and there was there was no reason for that match in particular to be a lights out match at this point.
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This feud is just starting.
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Why are we doing a lights out, which is almost like a final like a like a like the ending to a feud.
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Why is that being done now and not three matches from now?
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Well, and this is where Tony Khan's been a little nefarious recently.
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And Tony, you hurt my feelings this week.
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Okay.
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I'm going to be real.
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I am not used to feeling insulted having my intelligence feel insulted by a W.
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Okay.
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That's always been one of the selling points of a W to me.
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They don't tell me what I want.
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They listen.
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They respond.
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Right.
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But this week and in weeks prior, as we have discussed on other episodes,
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a W has been doing these five minute eliminator matches,
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which when you're barely featuring the fucking women feels like an excuse to only have a five minute match.
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Having a lights out match that wasn't really a lights out match.
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It was just a hardcore match that ended in the ring.
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Just like a hardcore match felt like an excuse to put it on last.
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And that you came up with a stipulation that would like legitimize the need to do that.
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Come on, Tony.
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What fucking bullshit is that?
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That is bullshit, dude.
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Like that match should not have been in that spot.
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It was the best match of the show by far.
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I really, really, really, really like it.
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Sheida and stat went all the way at it.
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They totally stole the show, in my opinion.
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If they put it on, I think, at the end of the first hour, top of the second,
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it would have been there would have been a lot different reaction.
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Yep.
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Online.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Let's see what our sickos are saying right now.
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We got a lot more to say.
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Larry line.
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It was like 200 minutes and we got two women's matches.
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One of them started at the top of the fourth hour.
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Exactly.
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It was a very good match, but like only six psychos would be staying up,
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which Joe is one of those people.
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And I noticed he was talking all about the match the night of it and he lives in the UK.
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So it was much later for him.
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Anthony says, I always get pissed off the way Tony Khan does that to the women.
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I mean, I can't argue with you there.
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Secure Universe podcast, more women's wrestling, less filler content.
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Yeah.
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Devil dinosaur said for the first time and who knows how long social media wasn't
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full of VIN cells and fed heads complaining about a W fortunately was full of
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sickos raging righteously.
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True.
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And that's how you know people are at their breaking point because it is
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the fans complaining.
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Always never says it being a lights out match was bullshit.
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Agreed.
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Agreed.
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Anthony says, I think it has to do with WB, but I'm not sure.
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We're going to get into that.
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Larry line.
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They would have put this match on rampage if it still existed.
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And I'm not meaning that as a compliment to TK.
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That is correct.
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I that is 100% what I that's how I feel about the third hour when they add
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those.
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It's like instead of like dynamite and collision.
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It really feels more like a dynamite and a rampage.
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Yeah, it's a separate show, but it's only an hour long.
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And it has the pacing of a rampage kind of.
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Yeah, they need to bring back a show like rampage.
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They or even dark on YouTube.
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They need an extra hour.
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Their roster is too good and too big to only have four hours of weekly
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television.
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Mm hmm.
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Mm hmm.
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I was never agree.
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Blair line.
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It existing is dope.
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It being in place of another tag singles match.
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Nah.
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So I think that we're going to talk about some of the so many
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angles of this because there's many, many, many angles to this.
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My notes for this, just this topic are so vast because I didn't want to
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miss anything.
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I wanted to get all the shots and let them all sink in.
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It came off to me.
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Like I said, as an excuse to put the match very last on the show and
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called it the main event, the women then kill it, but it's the match
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people are most likely to miss or or go to bed and watch it the next
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day.
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And what does that do?
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That just justifies this whole like women don't draw ratings, right?
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If that's the problem, you're making the problem because you're putting
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them in the worst possible spot.
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And just a random fact, I mean, women only shows tend to do great.
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Like did evolution 2.0 sell out?
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No, but that's more on WWE's fault of when it was, where it was,
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and what the ticket prices were.
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But it was still their most highest rated show of the year and
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the highest like where people like me who hate WWE and won't watch
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went to watch that because I want to support women's wrestling.
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I wanted that show to have the views because I want more women's
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wrestling.
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So yeah, women's wrestling does draw.
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I don't like where I want to know where they're getting these
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numbers from because I think it's bullshit.
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I think it's just a misogynistic excuse from from men who run
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stuff.
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Right.
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And so Tony did allude to having more freedom to book women on
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Ring of Honor at the scrum.
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I want to be really clear about something.
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We don't know a lot of shit.
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I don't know the internal workings of WBD or AW, but I'm going
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to frame this a little different way.
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It has been said that the litany of complaints the WBD received
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after Hangman shared that feedback form on blue sky in the wake of
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those horrific ice ads last year is what led them to being eventually
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pulled.
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So we're going to share those same links in the chat and in
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the show notes.
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So please check out the show notes right to HBO Max right to
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TBS and let them know.
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Okay.
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Do I understand every intricacy of running a wrestling promotion?
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Of course not.
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Should I need to in order to have a strong opinion about what
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I pay to watch every week?
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No.
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Okay.
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I only subscribe to HBO Max for AEW.
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If they didn't air dynamite and collision, I would weigh my subscription
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on a month to month basis like any other streaming service.
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I pay more than $30 a month for the base subscription to HBO Max
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plus $40 a month for a discounted pay-per-view, which is
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hilarious because it's not really that discounted.
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I actually pay more.
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I do this to support AEW with tax and everything.
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I'm giving these guys more than 70 bucks a month.
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So I will make my displeasure known where and whenever the
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fuck I feel the need to that's called being a consumer.
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I think it's very toxic when people say not to complain.
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Like I'm not going to just shut up and shut up and enjoy
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something that I am paying to watch.
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I don't sit and shut up for things that are free.
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Like if you're supposed to be entertaining me, I want to have
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a say.
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I want to get my voice out there because that's the whole
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fucking point of capitalism.
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Kaylee, Matt says dark alive on YouTube would be perfect
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to get new fans introduced to the roster.
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Totally agree.
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Yeah.
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It cost them no extra money.
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Like I don't understand why they stopped.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I'm sure to film it somewhere and not have it
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be a part of like the tapings.
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It adds cost.
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I'm sure.
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But like I know they are overhauled for before events.
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It was instead of Ring of Honor.
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Like they're doing dark matches at the shows now.
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Yeah.
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Fucking film them.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And when you have a live collision, do a combined
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dynamite dark taping, you know, whatever.
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I would prefer it as a different show, too.
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Like I enjoy the three hour dynamites when they're rare,
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but I don't want three hour dynamite to be a thing.
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I don't either.
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Nobody can make that sustainable.
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It's just it's too much.
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Raja.
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He did say something about it in the scrum of how
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he has better opportunities to book women on our wage.
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But yeah, that's not the same.
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Yeah, it's not the same.
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And there were some people online when books
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started a fucking riot.
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So yeah.
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So like I said, so book says in this group chat
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that we're in, like fuck this.
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I'm going to fucking let my feelings be known.
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And people went ape shit on threads.
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And it was awesome.
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A tick tock videos are being made.
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YouTube videos are being made.
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Yeah.
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Do I think I started it?
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No, I just think I lit the fire because I hit my limit.
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Yeah.
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If it's a Tony Khan issue, he needs to hear it.
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If it's a WBD issue, they need to hear it.
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They need to hear it.
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If we just go, it's a WBD issue.
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It's not Tony.
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There's nothing he can do.
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And we just accept that.
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Like a lot of people make that excuse.
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That's bullshit.
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You tell WBD, I subscribe to this because of AEW.
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If you don't put more women on this thing, I'll steal the fucking show.
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Pirating is like everywhere.
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You know?
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But I'm also going to throw out Tony Khan's a boss, right?
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He is the Booker.
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He is the boss of AEW.
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You know what good bosses do?
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They stand up for their employees.
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So I'm over the Tony Khan can't do anything because I don't know.
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I've had bosses that are much lower down the totem pole than Tony Khan.
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Do something.
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And I work at a Fortune 500.
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Yeah, yeah, totally.
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Kaylee Mets says TK is quick to address other issues in regards to WBD, but there has been silence on this issue.
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He just wants to throw it and blame everyone else but himself because this has been an ongoing issue with Tony Khan.
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And let's remember he's a 40.
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He's over 40 years old.
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He's a billionaire.
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We don't have to coddle his little feelings.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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The amount of pick me bitches.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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OK, I'll get to that.
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Kaylee says the amount of pick me bitches telling us to accept the short time women get was immense.
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They need to get their mouth of TK's sack.
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And I say this as the person who jokes that they're off TK's sack.
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OK, got it.
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Like like I am never not going to hold someone accountable.
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And we know he can do it, which is the worst part about this is when you look at ROH, we know he knows what he's doing.
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So just put your big boy pants on.
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Go to Warner Brothers and say, you know what?
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I understand my top three are out right now, but Tony's probably not going to be back because she is maybe injured by Juice Robinson.
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We don't know.
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Nothing's been confirmed yet.
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Mercedes is most like I still don't think she's coming back to all in.
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And now we're at Willow.
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Oh, yeah, I'm not my three big ones.
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But you know what?
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Just like you trust me to build new male stars.
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I can do that with the women.
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Yeah.
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Let me get RJ on the phone.
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Let us brainstorm and we'll come up with the next Hollywood ending.
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Well, and here's the other thing.
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You have Tecla who has gotten massively over.
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So fucking funny.
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And she's on.
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I mean, she's the champ for one.
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She's featured on one of the shows every single week in a match, you know, something.
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And she is doing the Mercedes reign where she is just always wrestling the next challenger, but they don't have like a feud feud.
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It's just like a challenger, right?
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Yeah, that doesn't get people invested.
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You didn't.
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You don't do that when Hangman's the champion.
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You don't do that when MJF's the champion.
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You don't do that when Darby was the champion and you had to build a new challenger for Darby every single fucking week, oftentimes twice a week.
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Yeah, and I was really invested in those.
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And with Tecla, Blair Elyne is the one who originally said this is she has succeeded in spite of pretty poor booking, not because of good booking.
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Yeah, no, she's gotten herself over with, which is a very she's kind of going the right route and making you want to tune into her with the poor booking.
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So congratulations to her.
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I am so invested in her myself, especially for Forbidden Door, because she herself has been slowly booking her versus Sardom Okada.
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Mm hmm.
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And I cannot wait to see that happen.
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Secure Universe says we know he hears us when we speak up.
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Look at the MJFJR at Misogyny promo stuff that quickly got axed.
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Absolutely.
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Blair Elyne says you cannot make another Tony Storm level star if you don't give them Tony Storm TV time.
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100%.
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You have to let them shine.
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If you don't let them shine, you don't get new stars.
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He knows this for the men.
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Well, and there are the, again, Tecla being one of them, but there are plenty of women that if you gave them the time to shine, they would excel.
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Now, the people who say Tony Khan hates women's wrestling are taking it too far, in my opinion.
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He's shown that's not true.
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That's not true.
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I don't believe that at all.
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I do believe Tony is very beholden to his handlers at WBD.
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And that's the unfortunate truth.
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He doesn't want to ruffle the boat.
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He does ruffle feathers and shake the boat.
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And that's the biggest.
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And that's why I'm trying to hold him accountable to you, because he has to man up at some point and defend his women's division.
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Well, and Kaylee's making a great point here.
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Women are the largest group of consumers, and the constant disrespect to that fact is so dumb on WB's behalf.
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Yeah.
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When you go to a live show, there's a good, like, the people that are most into the show are women.
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I made friends with a group of women around me as we were all cheering against separate people.
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The girls in front of me were huge Jade White fans, so they kept rooting for the dogs while I was rooting for the other people.
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But we kept high-fiving.
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Like, we had the most energy out of everyone in the crowd.
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To my understanding, it goes back to, like, total divas, almost, where they really went aggressively after a female demographic, right, for the first time really ever.
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And they succeeded in bringing women into wrestling.
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And ever since then, there are more women watching wrestling, which I think is dope as fuck.
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Okay.
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But women don't watch wrestling just to leer at sexy dudes.
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Okay.
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I want to watch people smack each other.
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They want to see people who look like them, who feel like them, who have something in common, very in common with them, do fucking cool shit.
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That's why men watch wrestling.
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00:25:23.900 --> 00:25:27.800
I don't watch it just to leer at dudes either, you know, or leer at women.
469
00:25:28.740 --> 00:25:39.720
And something I brought up to you earlier was my biggest issue with the women getting lack of screen time now is we're living in a time where the tradwife aesthetic is really being pushed.
470
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:44.320
And this very soft, delicate woman is being pushed.
471
00:25:44.800 --> 00:25:49.700
And, you know, we're really pushing the super skinny Y2K heroine chic.
472
00:25:52.500 --> 00:25:59.080
So we're giving less women time as this heroine weak women shit is being pushed.
473
00:25:59.360 --> 00:26:09.760
Instead of pushing the women that are strong, who are all different body types that show you can do anything while being a different body type.
474
00:26:09.760 --> 00:26:11.480
I can tell you this.
475
00:26:11.980 --> 00:26:21.400
I learned so much about my body confidence because of watching wrestling, of seeing different women of different body shapes and different sizes go out there.
476
00:26:21.700 --> 00:26:27.480
Willow in particular is a huge body positive person who's out there.
477
00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:37.660
Bailey, all these other people are doing such great things to bring in young women and promote a healthy view of bodies.
478
00:26:39.360 --> 00:26:43.860
And it's just bullshit that we're like, it's just it's almost like Warner Brothers.
479
00:26:44.060 --> 00:26:47.620
Like, no, no, we see the trend until you get.
480
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:53.400
Oh, my God. What was it? Lacey, the patriotic housewife bullshit.
481
00:26:53.900 --> 00:26:56.400
Oh, right. Right. Right. Yeah. Until you get one of her.
482
00:26:56.540 --> 00:27:01.280
We can't push women because we're pushing soft and feminine.
483
00:27:01.860 --> 00:27:04.580
Not that there's anything wrong with soft and feminine, but that's not totally.
484
00:27:04.580 --> 00:27:06.600
I get it. Like, I get what you're saying.
485
00:27:06.620 --> 00:27:23.140
And I think, like, there's a reason that Willow is such a badass and that people gravitate towards Willow is because she does kind of project that, like, no matter your body type, no matter your, you know, anything, you can be a fucking star.
486
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:34.240
You can be a hero. And it's funny because her character is actually a nihilist and and she's the most positive character on the show, which is hilarious.
487
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:36.380
Let's get in the chat here real quick.
488
00:27:36.580 --> 00:27:41.520
Antoine says Tony is creating the problem himself over half the earth, starting to sold out the Tokyo Dome.
489
00:27:41.760 --> 00:27:43.700
Come on. Agree? Yeah.
490
00:27:44.080 --> 00:27:47.240
There's plenty of there's plenty of proof that women's wrestling sells.
491
00:27:47.520 --> 00:27:51.560
Yeah, but it's it's that's why the ratings nonsense is bullshit.
492
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:56.700
Well, and it requires just a little bit of patience, you know, a little bit.
493
00:27:56.840 --> 00:28:01.280
TK would like to do more women's wrestling, but he doesn't care enough to stand up for it.
494
00:28:01.280 --> 00:28:04.520
Hard to argue. Anthony says I really like the bald cap blade.
495
00:28:04.840 --> 00:28:06.600
Thank you, friend. I do, too.
496
00:28:06.700 --> 00:28:10.780
This is my my funker hat, because he would stand up for it if it was his priority.
497
00:28:11.080 --> 00:28:14.640
He surely has enough cash with WBD to stand up for things he truly believes in.
498
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:17.400
I think you're right. I mean, I think you're absolutely right.
499
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:29.940
I think by now, Tony Khan should be kind of a legend within those offices because he's brought them a show that for seven years has brought them consistent ratings that are continuing to go back up.
500
00:28:29.940 --> 00:28:32.920
So like it should be a fucking hero to them.
501
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:35.280
You know, it should be a fucking hero.
502
00:28:35.860 --> 00:28:38.500
And money, because they're getting more and more sponsorships, too.
503
00:28:39.180 --> 00:28:42.700
Like, yeah, A.W. has brought in so much money.
504
00:28:43.300 --> 00:28:45.620
Mm hmm. Right. Right.
505
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:49.020
Blair Lyons. Sorry.
506
00:28:49.260 --> 00:28:53.620
Devil Dinosaur says we can't change the women's division until we change the world, but wasn't change the world.
507
00:28:53.700 --> 00:28:54.800
The motto of the elite.
508
00:28:55.560 --> 00:28:56.280
Yes. Yes.
509
00:28:56.280 --> 00:29:02.460
I'm actually going to when I make a video tomorrow, my own video, I'm going to steal that line.
510
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:09.740
Larry line in the time where media and establishment types are pushing Sydney Sweeney's as the ideal.
511
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.760
We need someone pushing back just as hard with willows and stats.
512
00:29:13.080 --> 00:29:15.280
Bold fucking women who kick arse.
513
00:29:16.120 --> 00:29:18.180
Oh, good. You reminded me of Lacey Evans.
514
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:19.920
I think I'm entitled to compensation.
515
00:29:20.520 --> 00:29:28.780
I'm sorry. I just when I think of like, I mean, I know she was like a marine and stuff, but I just I think of that all those weird gimmicks she did.
516
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:31.500
And then she was like dating Ric Flair for a second.
517
00:29:32.120 --> 00:29:42.650
I'm just like, I feel like that's like what like you think of like the ideal, like what the city's the Sydney Sweeney of wrestling is Lacey.
518
00:29:43.650 --> 00:29:45.030
Yeah. Yeah.
519
00:29:45.870 --> 00:29:47.930
And, you know, at the end of the day.
520
00:29:48.670 --> 00:29:54.570
I don't even want to know how much money I paid a W since they announced the promotion.
521
00:29:55.630 --> 00:30:01.150
It's an obscene amount of money, whether it's pay per views, merch, tickets, toys, whatever.
522
00:30:01.390 --> 00:30:03.350
And I am far from the only one.
523
00:30:03.670 --> 00:30:10.670
They make a great product, but I have more than paid my way to have a voice and saying, oh, it's not TK doing it.
524
00:30:10.670 --> 00:30:12.290
So there's nothing I can do.
525
00:30:12.290 --> 00:30:13.630
Solves fucking nothing.
526
00:30:14.130 --> 00:30:15.150
Stop it.
527
00:30:15.150 --> 00:30:20.350
Stop like being loyal to a logo instead of like the actual performers.
528
00:30:20.870 --> 00:30:22.050
It's fucked up.
529
00:30:22.550 --> 00:30:26.590
So use the contact forms that we will drop in the chat here in just a few minutes.
530
00:30:26.750 --> 00:30:32.450
I didn't have them queued up because I'm a smart boy and I'll also post them to threads.
531
00:30:32.570 --> 00:30:33.090
Yeah.
532
00:30:33.170 --> 00:30:34.910
And blow up TBS and HBO Max.
533
00:30:35.090 --> 00:30:40.610
There are so many incredible women in a W that are not being featured or being featured in a really superficial way.
534
00:30:40.850 --> 00:30:43.130
And it's simply not good enough at all.
535
00:30:43.490 --> 00:30:44.750
We've been extremely patient.
536
00:30:44.750 --> 00:30:46.110
We've made our points in good faith.
537
00:30:46.210 --> 00:30:53.970
And last year when a W introduced the women's tag titles and did women's blood and guts, we applauded and for several months.
538
00:30:54.770 --> 00:30:55.130
Yeah.
539
00:30:55.130 --> 00:31:03.890
And for several months after that up through like revolution, I would say a W kept following through when Mercedes took a leave at the end of the year.
540
00:31:03.890 --> 00:31:08.130
And then Tony Storm also had to leave the amount of women featured tapered off drastically.
541
00:31:08.350 --> 00:31:11.030
This isn't a matter of extreme emotion.
542
00:31:11.130 --> 00:31:13.610
They're just facts that anyone can verify.
543
00:31:13.610 --> 00:31:17.790
Well, that we've been talking about for a while, but it's clear now that we need to be more direct.
544
00:31:17.890 --> 00:31:21.930
It's not acceptable to go backwards with the women's division.
545
00:31:21.990 --> 00:31:24.830
A W do better and do better now.
546
00:31:25.490 --> 00:31:32.590
Last thing I want to say is, again, with the people who say watch R.O.H., the other thing about saying that is R.O.H. is behind a paywall.
547
00:31:32.830 --> 00:31:41.290
OK, like it's really presumptive and presumptuous to assume that everybody can afford to watch R.O.H.
548
00:31:41.590 --> 00:31:42.870
OK, not everybody can.
549
00:31:42.870 --> 00:31:46.090
I have paid for R.O.H. whether I can watch it or not.
550
00:31:46.230 --> 00:31:53.030
I have had entire months where I didn't watch it and I still pay for it again to support the promotion.
551
00:31:53.830 --> 00:31:54.310
Right.
552
00:31:54.830 --> 00:32:02.350
But telling me, like, why should I have I pay HBO Max for four hours of wrestling a week?
553
00:32:02.470 --> 00:32:05.510
Why should I have to pay R.O.H. to go see women's wrestling?
554
00:32:05.630 --> 00:32:09.010
And it won't even be the women that normally wrestle in a W.
555
00:32:10.230 --> 00:32:12.070
Yeah, it's a bullshit excuse.
556
00:32:12.670 --> 00:32:15.190
It's just people wanting to coddle a 40 year old billionaire.
557
00:32:15.630 --> 00:32:17.970
Stop coddling billionaires.
558
00:32:18.050 --> 00:32:19.950
Stop the bootlicking.
559
00:32:20.370 --> 00:32:23.150
You know, normally we're talking about the Fed head bootlickers.
560
00:32:23.290 --> 00:32:25.910
This is Tony Khan bootlicking and I won't stand for it.
561
00:32:26.290 --> 00:32:28.190
And I say this as his wife and lover.
562
00:32:29.290 --> 00:32:29.810
That's true.
563
00:32:30.030 --> 00:32:32.850
Don't bootlick that little shithead.
564
00:32:33.030 --> 00:32:36.810
I heard he wasn't taking your calls because he's very mad at me.
565
00:32:36.810 --> 00:32:37.950
Yeah, he's very mad.
566
00:32:38.650 --> 00:32:40.150
We want Naila, Kaylee says.
567
00:32:40.230 --> 00:32:40.910
Yeah, we do.
568
00:32:41.010 --> 00:32:41.670
I miss Naila.
569
00:32:41.730 --> 00:32:43.530
Well, I still have a theory on that.
570
00:32:43.530 --> 00:32:53.010
I think she doesn't want to be on American TV and with the state of the country.
571
00:32:53.410 --> 00:32:55.370
And yeah, I'm being a very public trans person.
572
00:32:55.430 --> 00:33:00.110
I could see that Naila versus Tecla would have been a fucking banger.
573
00:33:00.350 --> 00:33:01.050
It really would.
574
00:33:01.690 --> 00:33:06.310
You know, if we only voted correctly, if we get out the vote or kick the tires
575
00:33:06.310 --> 00:33:08.050
or pinch some ears, we could do this.
576
00:33:08.150 --> 00:33:10.430
Michael Leder says, Hey, we can do it.
577
00:33:10.750 --> 00:33:15.010
It's really a matter of look when people feel like they're going to lose money
578
00:33:15.010 --> 00:33:20.490
because of something they are not doing that they can easily do, they'll do it.
579
00:33:20.530 --> 00:33:24.190
So they have announced two women's matches or collision.
580
00:33:24.690 --> 00:33:27.030
But one of them is a five minute eliminator match.
581
00:33:27.910 --> 00:33:28.710
Oh, joy.
582
00:33:29.150 --> 00:33:29.650
Yeah.
583
00:33:29.750 --> 00:33:33.950
So it's not like, you know, you know, it's not that's not the magic solution.
584
00:33:33.950 --> 00:33:34.590
Certainly.
585
00:33:34.910 --> 00:33:38.390
But it feels like a bullshit way for them to say, like, hey, we have two women's
586
00:33:38.390 --> 00:33:38.970
match on the show.
587
00:33:39.030 --> 00:33:43.390
You know, if it was like cherry on top of good women's book booking, I would
588
00:33:43.390 --> 00:33:44.630
have no issue with it.
589
00:33:44.650 --> 00:33:49.410
But in fact, it's being used to gaslight us into there's women's wrestling.
590
00:33:49.770 --> 00:33:51.890
And that's so gross, man.
591
00:33:51.910 --> 00:33:53.890
Like, I don't want this from A.W.
592
00:33:53.930 --> 00:33:55.090
Don't be gaslighting.
593
00:33:55.090 --> 00:33:56.010
I see motherfuckers.
594
00:33:56.010 --> 00:33:57.370
I see through that shit.
595
00:33:57.410 --> 00:34:00.230
I get gaslit by the government every goddamn day.
596
00:34:00.470 --> 00:34:02.170
Well, and people get gaslit by WWE.
597
00:34:02.170 --> 00:34:06.630
So he's doing no different than what Triple H is doing when he's like, don't you
598
00:34:06.630 --> 00:34:07.150
complain?
599
00:34:08.290 --> 00:34:08.770
Yeah.
600
00:34:08.770 --> 00:34:10.690
Well, and you A.W.
601
00:34:10.830 --> 00:34:12.210
has been the anti that.
602
00:34:12.489 --> 00:34:16.170
So, like, you got to continue to be the anti that, Tony.
603
00:34:16.190 --> 00:34:19.010
You can't change horses in midstream here, pal.
604
00:34:19.449 --> 00:34:20.710
I really wish R.O.H.
605
00:34:20.810 --> 00:34:22.730
wasn't behind to pay while they need a TV show.
606
00:34:22.969 --> 00:34:23.409
Yeah.
607
00:34:23.830 --> 00:34:25.170
Yeah, they definitely do.
608
00:34:26.230 --> 00:34:29.409
A.W. needs Macky Edo more than ever now.
609
00:34:29.510 --> 00:34:31.449
She's doing really well in stardom.
610
00:34:31.449 --> 00:34:35.389
That woman went and got herself way over the current state of the union.
611
00:34:36.350 --> 00:34:37.230
My dudes.
612
00:34:37.570 --> 00:34:38.670
It sure is.
613
00:34:38.670 --> 00:34:39.330
It sure is.
614
00:34:39.330 --> 00:34:43.670
I actually have hope that based on the logo of redemption, that it might be a
615
00:34:43.670 --> 00:34:45.469
more stardom and A.W.
616
00:34:45.650 --> 00:34:46.330
based show.
617
00:34:46.330 --> 00:34:46.770
Yeah.
618
00:34:46.929 --> 00:34:48.790
That would be fucking great.
619
00:34:49.610 --> 00:34:52.170
Almost like a feminine vibe to it.
620
00:34:52.170 --> 00:34:55.969
I didn't want to box it in too much because it can still be, you know, it can just
621
00:34:55.969 --> 00:34:56.550
be pretty.
622
00:34:56.929 --> 00:35:00.990
But like, yeah, it felt a little I was like, what's going on with that show?
623
00:35:00.990 --> 00:35:01.950
A.W.
624
00:35:02.250 --> 00:35:03.050
You can do better.
625
00:35:03.070 --> 00:35:04.010
We know you can do better.
626
00:35:04.070 --> 00:35:06.710
You were doing way better recently.
627
00:35:07.150 --> 00:35:09.590
And my hope was that we would eventually get to parody.
628
00:35:10.070 --> 00:35:10.470
Right.
629
00:35:10.790 --> 00:35:13.430
Because we were so much closer three months ago.
630
00:35:14.390 --> 00:35:14.790
Yeah.
631
00:35:15.450 --> 00:35:17.790
And now we've taken 20 steps back.
632
00:35:18.270 --> 00:35:18.670
Yeah.
633
00:35:18.850 --> 00:35:20.030
Feels a million miles away.
634
00:35:40.200 --> 00:35:42.540
Always never says stardom needs to be front and center for forbidden door.
635
00:35:42.720 --> 00:35:42.900
Yeah.
636
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:44.040
It'll be interesting.
637
00:35:44.740 --> 00:35:46.380
Antoine, I think sometimes that's what it is.
638
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:47.020
Take Serena Deeb.
639
00:35:47.040 --> 00:35:48.120
She's still active as heck.
640
00:35:48.120 --> 00:35:49.040
They don't want to cut.
641
00:35:49.380 --> 00:35:50.380
They don't want to come back.
642
00:35:50.520 --> 00:35:51.800
I think sometimes that's true.
643
00:35:52.220 --> 00:35:54.920
Redemption pay-per-view would be a good opportunity for A.W.
644
00:35:54.980 --> 00:35:56.320
to redeem their women's division.
645
00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:57.680
Agreed.
646
00:35:57.700 --> 00:35:58.100
Agreed.
647
00:35:58.180 --> 00:35:59.420
But forbidden door is the next one.
648
00:35:59.420 --> 00:36:04.620
And I hope they got some cool shit planned with the female talent from stardom and
649
00:36:04.620 --> 00:36:05.600
A.W. for that.
650
00:36:06.240 --> 00:36:07.440
I have one last complaint.
651
00:36:08.200 --> 00:36:08.600
Please.
652
00:36:09.560 --> 00:36:09.960
OK.
653
00:36:11.060 --> 00:36:11.300
One.
654
00:36:11.340 --> 00:36:11.920
It's been what?
655
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:13.500
Two weeks since Willow.
656
00:36:13.780 --> 00:36:14.000
Yeah.
657
00:36:15.020 --> 00:36:15.300
Yeah.
658
00:36:15.500 --> 00:36:15.640
Wait.
659
00:36:15.640 --> 00:36:16.540
Why are we just?
660
00:36:17.080 --> 00:36:23.440
Why are we just finding out their plan on TNT on Saturday?
661
00:36:23.640 --> 00:36:24.640
I don't know.
662
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:29.300
You know what would have been a good time to do that on TBS?
663
00:36:32.140 --> 00:36:32.200
Yes.
664
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:34.080
It's a continuity thing.
665
00:36:34.080 --> 00:36:34.560
I agree.
666
00:36:35.080 --> 00:36:43.560
But I would say it would have been nice to have that title feel valued and have
667
00:36:43.560 --> 00:36:48.480
an announcement made sooner than this Saturday.
668
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:51.760
You know, rather than waiting 10 days.
669
00:36:53.220 --> 00:36:56.740
I mean, they already put their women's title as a second thought in a pay-per-view
670
00:36:56.740 --> 00:36:58.340
match from the women's title.
671
00:36:58.900 --> 00:36:59.120
Yeah.
672
00:36:59.240 --> 00:36:59.600
The champion.
673
00:37:00.700 --> 00:37:00.980
Yeah.
674
00:37:01.260 --> 00:37:04.760
Kaylee is convinced that he said it would be addressed on Wednesday at the
675
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:04.960
Scrum.
676
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:06.180
I thought he said Saturday.
677
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:09.820
No, he said Saturday on Wednesday.
678
00:37:10.020 --> 00:37:10.500
OK.
679
00:37:10.620 --> 00:37:11.240
At the Scrum.
680
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:12.320
I never watched the Scrum.
681
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.520
I've seen the quotes, but I haven't watched it myself.
682
00:37:15.020 --> 00:37:17.720
I can't watch the Scrum because I get too annoyed.
683
00:37:19.780 --> 00:37:21.440
Sometimes I can't stand the way he talks.
684
00:37:23.080 --> 00:37:26.680
Blairlyline says to think we've regressed so far because Tony needed went to
685
00:37:26.680 --> 00:37:30.320
get that torn labia fix that she injured in the Soho death match against Stan
686
00:37:33.980 --> 00:37:34.420
Hanson.
687
00:37:36.100 --> 00:37:36.160
OK.
688
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:38.520
And Blairlyline confirms he did say Wednesday originally.
689
00:37:39.220 --> 00:37:41.960
He needs to learn to pivot better with the women like he does with the men.
690
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:46.080
And that's a him issue and something he needs to look inward on.
691
00:37:47.660 --> 00:37:48.700
Again, AEW.
692
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:53.580
These are your hardest core fans talking to you right now.
693
00:37:53.720 --> 00:37:53.920
OK.
694
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:56.700
It would be really wise to listen the fuck up.
695
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:57.280
OK.
696
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.380
These are the people that are the bedrock of your product.
697
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:01.300
OK.
698
00:38:01.740 --> 00:38:06.140
Like you just canceled a toy line that I collected almost all of.
699
00:38:06.580 --> 00:38:07.700
I love AEW.
700
00:38:07.820 --> 00:38:11.140
And that's why I'm going to be hard on you when you do stupid shit.
701
00:38:11.140 --> 00:38:12.200
Yeah, exactly.
702
00:38:12.260 --> 00:38:13.740
Look at those toys in the background for books.
703
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:17.000
Look at fucking stuffed Kenny back there that annoys the shit out of me half the
704
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:17.820
time.
705
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:18.440
Oh, no.
706
00:38:19.180 --> 00:38:20.060
That's that's.
707
00:38:21.260 --> 00:38:23.660
Oh, God.
708
00:38:23.660 --> 00:38:24.240
Oh, God.
709
00:38:24.240 --> 00:38:24.620
Oh, God.
710
00:38:24.680 --> 00:38:25.000
OK.
711
00:38:25.100 --> 00:38:25.540
OK.
712
00:38:27.020 --> 00:38:29.540
Tino says the real story is that Tony ran off with Wendy Richter.
713
00:38:29.620 --> 00:38:30.520
I've heard that too.
714
00:38:30.860 --> 00:38:31.580
That too.
715
00:38:32.100 --> 00:38:37.320
Michael Leder says, is anyone else still sore from watching lights out match
716
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:37.880
lights?
717
00:38:38.100 --> 00:38:39.540
Oh, with Stalander.
718
00:38:39.700 --> 00:38:39.880
Yeah.
719
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:42.240
It was that was a bad ass match.
720
00:38:42.240 --> 00:38:43.080
It was awesome.
721
00:38:44.220 --> 00:38:44.660
OK.
722
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:46.740
Well, we are going to move on.
723
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:50.240
We have given this a solid 45 minutes and I'm proud of us.
724
00:38:52.120 --> 00:38:54.720
So Kevin Knight books.
725
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:57.380
I used to think he was such a nice young man.
726
00:38:58.080 --> 00:38:59.920
I'm not ready to talk about this.
727
00:39:00.220 --> 00:39:04.700
My my whole world has come crashing down and I'm heartbroken.
728
00:39:04.700 --> 00:39:11.900
And, you know, I really I just got this amazing shirt that I and how am I
729
00:39:11.900 --> 00:39:13.140
supposed to wear this now?
730
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:15.040
The Jets at Rodeo shirt.
731
00:39:16.100 --> 00:39:16.980
The horse.
732
00:39:17.160 --> 00:39:18.640
Do you think they're broken up?
733
00:39:19.560 --> 00:39:20.380
I do.
734
00:39:21.520 --> 00:39:25.300
It's pretty hard, I think, when you brutally attack your teammate for
735
00:39:25.300 --> 00:39:28.080
them to just want to get back into a team with you.
736
00:39:28.520 --> 00:39:28.960
Yeah.
737
00:39:29.060 --> 00:39:29.340
All right.
738
00:39:29.340 --> 00:39:30.960
Hard to be like my bad bro.
739
00:39:31.140 --> 00:39:31.740
Bad day.
740
00:39:31.740 --> 00:39:36.000
You know, like I humiliated you in your pajama suit.
741
00:39:36.100 --> 00:39:39.800
Gee, that you were wearing on live TV.
742
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:40.620
I'm sorry.
743
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:41.980
Speedball looked amazing.
744
00:39:42.060 --> 00:39:45.800
Speedball looked fantastic in the sweatsuit.
745
00:39:46.020 --> 00:39:49.940
Gee, pajamas that he was wearing with those awesome shoes.
746
00:39:50.260 --> 00:39:52.040
No socks, of course, because of the speedball.
747
00:39:52.880 --> 00:40:00.000
But Kevin Knight comes out on Dynamite after his nefarious actions at
748
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:06.920
the very end of that was really like chef's kiss, like the final amazing
749
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:11.120
little garnish on top of the wonderful meal that was double or nothing.
750
00:40:11.500 --> 00:40:16.380
And he fucking UFO'd splash Darby on a fucking stretcher.
751
00:40:16.620 --> 00:40:19.680
One, that was an insane thing for him to do because he could have killed
752
00:40:19.680 --> 00:40:21.800
himself easily and he did it perfectly.
753
00:40:22.260 --> 00:40:26.640
And two, then he flipped the fucking stretcher over because he's really
754
00:40:26.640 --> 00:40:27.400
kind of a dick.
755
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:31.800
And MJF had a big smile on his face and he's clapping for Kevin Knight.
756
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:36.480
You know, this guy is going to be headlining pay-per-views maybe by the
757
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:37.260
end of the year.
758
00:40:37.680 --> 00:40:38.840
I really think so.
759
00:40:39.660 --> 00:40:41.700
He comes out, the crowd's booing him.
760
00:40:41.740 --> 00:40:45.500
He's in a fucking turtleneck, which is just like Christian Cage has
761
00:40:45.500 --> 00:40:48.400
gotten the turtleneck over to the point where like you've turned heel
762
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:49.480
if you're wearing a turtleneck.
763
00:40:49.940 --> 00:40:52.200
You know how much I love turtlenecks too.
764
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:52.780
Yeah.
765
00:40:52.820 --> 00:40:54.580
Well, and that's why you're the heel of this show.
766
00:40:56.800 --> 00:41:01.420
So basically Kevin Knight comes out in a turtleneck and dress pants, nice
767
00:41:01.420 --> 00:41:01.880
shoes.
768
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:05.120
He's looking dressed up like he's a little too good for all of us.
769
00:41:05.640 --> 00:41:13.280
And he says, look, Darby let me down, you know, at double or nothing.
770
00:41:13.700 --> 00:41:14.800
We needed him to win.
771
00:41:14.900 --> 00:41:17.880
And by losing to MJF, he let me down.
772
00:41:18.020 --> 00:41:19.340
He let all of you down.
773
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:23.280
And I didn't come here, you know, while I watched from the back on
774
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:24.120
the sidelines.
775
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:26.920
Do I look like a bench player to you?
776
00:41:28.180 --> 00:41:29.140
Do I?
777
00:41:29.520 --> 00:41:32.820
Darby told me not to hesitate when I came here.
778
00:41:32.820 --> 00:41:33.420
So I didn't.
779
00:41:33.420 --> 00:41:35.000
And I jumped his ass basically.
780
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:39.320
And he's calling himself the jet a bunch of times, which works so much
781
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:40.360
better when you're a heel.
782
00:41:40.780 --> 00:41:41.240
Heel.
783
00:41:41.340 --> 00:41:41.600
Yeah.
784
00:41:41.620 --> 00:41:45.580
I will say though, Kevin Knight like wasn't wrong though.
785
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:49.480
Darby did let us down because how many of us wanted a bald MJF?
786
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:50.600
Wait a minute.
787
00:41:50.600 --> 00:41:55.760
You're saying that this guy who put his body through hell, who took on a
788
00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:00.280
former champion, who jumped off, who went bang bang and jumped off a fucking
789
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:03.960
you're going to say that he let, and then you're going to call me a heel
790
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:05.660
for saying Kenny disrespected Don.
791
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:11.700
Listen, I'm just saying I wanted, we all wanted a bald MJF.
792
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:12.140
Yeah.
793
00:42:12.140 --> 00:42:15.900
And now you're siding with MJF and you're siding with fucking Kevin
794
00:42:15.900 --> 00:42:20.520
Knight, double heel, bang, bang, indeed.
795
00:42:20.520 --> 00:42:21.820
Bang, bang to my heart.
796
00:42:22.100 --> 00:42:23.620
You've broken my heart.
797
00:42:24.660 --> 00:42:25.100
Wow.
798
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:26.280
Wow.
799
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:29.200
Mike leader says Kevin Knight.
800
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.620
So disappointed him versus speedball will be great.
801
00:42:31.720 --> 00:42:33.020
It's going to be incredible.
802
00:42:34.540 --> 00:42:35.700
He was on the local news today.
803
00:42:35.740 --> 00:42:36.400
All sad about it.
804
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:37.860
I'm not sure.
805
00:42:38.600 --> 00:42:40.000
Are we talking about Kevin Knight?
806
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:41.100
I don't know.
807
00:42:41.180 --> 00:42:41.940
Oh, he might.
808
00:42:42.300 --> 00:42:44.940
Somebody might have been on the local news where Kaylee is because
809
00:42:44.940 --> 00:42:46.300
they're going to forbidden door.
810
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:48.660
That was a jealous voice.
811
00:42:48.780 --> 00:42:49.060
Sorry.
812
00:42:50.140 --> 00:42:50.980
Well, I don't know.
813
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:54.980
We, we are going to be starting to go fund me to get me to
814
00:42:54.980 --> 00:42:57.920
forbidden door just so I can potentially see Kenny.
815
00:42:58.220 --> 00:42:59.060
Oh, I see.
816
00:43:01.060 --> 00:43:04.900
Tino says we need a backstage where Christian compliments speedball
817
00:43:04.900 --> 00:43:05.420
on the turtle neck.
818
00:43:05.560 --> 00:43:08.260
I believe you're talking about Kevin Knight, but yes, I agree.
819
00:43:08.600 --> 00:43:09.440
Blair Alliance says, don't worry.
820
00:43:09.460 --> 00:43:11.880
I've learned from wrestling that you can disingenuously apologize
821
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:15.360
for anything by saying you hadn't had your coffee this morning.
822
00:43:16.560 --> 00:43:17.600
Is that just a wrestling thing?
823
00:43:17.600 --> 00:43:19.520
Because I use that excuse a lot.
824
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:20.900
You're like, I have.
825
00:43:21.300 --> 00:43:21.800
I have.
826
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:26.020
I love the books.
827
00:43:26.580 --> 00:43:28.700
What we're talking about toxic wrestling fans.
828
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:30.440
How many times you said, well, I've done that.
829
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:31.440
I've done that several times.
830
00:43:31.520 --> 00:43:32.840
I do that currently.
831
00:43:33.040 --> 00:43:35.120
I fully admit I'm toxic.
832
00:43:36.100 --> 00:43:40.460
I just use my toxicity on the worst toxic people.
833
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:41.060
That's true.
834
00:43:41.200 --> 00:43:41.700
That's true.
835
00:43:42.060 --> 00:43:42.600
That's true.
836
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.520
Michael Leder says we do not be dissing the turtle necks.
837
00:43:45.620 --> 00:43:46.720
Hey, I'm not this turtle necks.
838
00:43:46.740 --> 00:43:48.640
I'm just saying it is currency for heels.
839
00:43:49.260 --> 00:43:49.660
Okay.
840
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:54.040
Oh, Tino Ibarra says Speedball's turtle neck was white.
841
00:43:54.040 --> 00:43:55.620
So you knew he was still a good guy.
842
00:43:55.900 --> 00:43:56.540
Good point.
843
00:43:56.860 --> 00:43:57.640
That is a good point.
844
00:43:57.640 --> 00:43:58.720
It is a slippery slope.
845
00:43:58.980 --> 00:44:00.820
One day you're wearing a white turtle neck.
846
00:44:00.860 --> 00:44:03.860
And then the next day, next day you're banging people's mothers
847
00:44:03.860 --> 00:44:05.640
and bragging about it.
848
00:44:07.260 --> 00:44:09.420
It was Speedball that was on the local news.
849
00:44:09.560 --> 00:44:10.320
Thank you, Kaylee.
850
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:11.120
Thank you.
851
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:11.720
Okay.
852
00:44:12.160 --> 00:44:13.620
Oh, he was on in Huntsville.
853
00:44:13.680 --> 00:44:14.620
He was in Huntsville.
854
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:15.060
Okay.
855
00:44:15.260 --> 00:44:15.660
Okay.
856
00:44:15.660 --> 00:44:20.840
I'm sorry, but I was also told that I was making some points there.
857
00:44:21.100 --> 00:44:21.740
Who said that?
858
00:44:24.540 --> 00:44:24.920
Tino.
859
00:44:25.180 --> 00:44:26.080
Oh, Tino's banned.
860
00:44:26.380 --> 00:44:27.920
Yeah, I'm banning him from the show.
861
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.600
Don't be contradicting me, Tino.
862
00:44:32.240 --> 00:44:38.180
So Speedball comes out very upset in a fucking stellar outfit.
863
00:44:38.680 --> 00:44:43.360
I mean, dude, this dude has been planning this moment for a while.
864
00:44:43.640 --> 00:44:44.300
You know what I mean?
865
00:44:46.060 --> 00:44:47.380
This was a great.
866
00:44:47.600 --> 00:44:48.660
They both have.
867
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:50.300
They both have.
868
00:44:51.680 --> 00:44:55.560
And Speedball comes into the ring, and he's so confident.
869
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:57.360
What is this from Tino?
870
00:44:57.720 --> 00:44:59.320
Tino, not the onions.
871
00:45:00.900 --> 00:45:03.140
Yeah, Kaylee says, turtle necks bring all the heels to the yard.
872
00:45:03.140 --> 00:45:03.880
That is true.
873
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:06.460
And yes, the shoes are fire.
874
00:45:06.500 --> 00:45:07.140
They were fire.
875
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:07.740
They were.
876
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.700
He had these Adidas shoes, but no socks.
877
00:45:12.520 --> 00:45:14.180
Immaculate, immaculate wrestling fashion.
878
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:16.800
My simp Skewered Universe says books is the best.
879
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:18.160
Do not silence her fans blade.
880
00:45:19.540 --> 00:45:20.980
You're supposed to be my fan.
881
00:45:22.100 --> 00:45:22.500
Skewered.
882
00:45:22.560 --> 00:45:24.040
You're my simp.
883
00:45:24.100 --> 00:45:26.620
No, see, we're all slop tarts at the end of the day.
884
00:45:26.700 --> 00:45:27.260
That's right.
885
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:29.020
At the end of the day, all of us are slop tarts.
886
00:45:29.340 --> 00:45:33.160
So Speedball comes down and he feels like there must be some kind of confusion.
887
00:45:34.180 --> 00:45:35.740
He calls Kevin Knight out.
888
00:45:36.640 --> 00:45:40.620
Kevin Knight listens, but he doesn't seem that he seems unfazed, shall we say.
889
00:45:41.420 --> 00:45:44.120
Speedball tells Knight they're both ambitious.
890
00:45:44.300 --> 00:45:47.960
They both want to be the best, but he tells Kevin Knight he's too ambitious.
891
00:45:48.560 --> 00:45:52.000
And his impatience causes him to make mistakes.
892
00:45:52.520 --> 00:45:56.620
And that's when Kevin Knight turns around and lays Speedball out.
893
00:45:58.740 --> 00:46:04.720
Puts them puts the MB to the canvas on the canvas, lays them out.
894
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:08.900
He did what he had to do books, according to him.
895
00:46:11.620 --> 00:46:19.840
You know, what's sad is we all knew this was coming because I feel like they've been setting up Speedball and first Kevin Knight for a while.
896
00:46:20.740 --> 00:46:22.760
But I was not emotionally prepared for that.
897
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:28.000
And I'm still not emotionally OK, because what does this mean for Speedball's block?
898
00:46:29.240 --> 00:46:29.520
Right.
899
00:46:30.100 --> 00:46:31.140
Well, it's going to change.
900
00:46:33.220 --> 00:46:38.120
But change is the only constant in this life books, and we just have to accept it.
901
00:46:38.120 --> 00:46:39.260
Well, I don't like that.
902
00:46:39.980 --> 00:46:41.920
I understand. No one likes it.
903
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:47.920
No one likes the inexorable approach of death, but we are all hurdling toward it faster than ever every single day.
904
00:46:49.910 --> 00:46:53.310
All right. So MJF is giving a promo backstage with the Triple B.
905
00:46:53.690 --> 00:46:59.150
He's dragging the Darby's World title on the ground, and he has the Triple B over his shoulder.
906
00:46:59.190 --> 00:47:02.850
Saga to Renee talking about how great everything is.
907
00:47:02.870 --> 00:47:04.730
And then Kevin Knight walks into the shot.
908
00:47:04.910 --> 00:47:07.390
Max sees Kevin Knight walking through the shot and thanks him.
909
00:47:07.390 --> 00:47:09.970
And he congratulates him for turning on Darby.
910
00:47:10.190 --> 00:47:12.630
And the jet says it wasn't for MJF.
911
00:47:12.850 --> 00:47:15.810
He wants Max's belt and he's going to have it.
912
00:47:16.110 --> 00:47:17.850
Then MJF just says goals are good.
913
00:47:17.930 --> 00:47:19.310
And he walks off.
914
00:47:19.670 --> 00:47:23.830
Kevin Knight turns around and Kyle Fletcher and Don Callis are staring him down.
915
00:47:24.150 --> 00:47:27.750
Don Callis says if he wants to be Jet 2 belts, he should call Don.
916
00:47:29.110 --> 00:47:33.950
Later on, he also happens to bump into Swerve, which I knew that was going to happen.
917
00:47:34.070 --> 00:47:35.770
I think everybody knew that was going to happen.
918
00:47:35.770 --> 00:47:39.250
And Swerve just sat there smiling and laughing to himself.
919
00:47:40.350 --> 00:47:42.050
And Kevin Knight walked away looking kind of mad.
920
00:47:44.370 --> 00:47:45.650
So a lot happened with the jet.
921
00:47:46.150 --> 00:47:48.930
The jet, the jet, the jet, the jet, the jet, the jet, the jet.
922
00:47:49.050 --> 00:47:50.730
I'm trying to say it as many times as he does.
923
00:47:51.170 --> 00:47:52.650
See, you're not a heel. It doesn't work.
924
00:47:53.310 --> 00:47:54.610
So yeah, it doesn't work.
925
00:47:54.950 --> 00:47:57.250
I'm too baby. I'm too likable. You're right.
926
00:47:59.770 --> 00:48:03.170
My cousin shared emojis of acorns.
927
00:48:03.290 --> 00:48:04.470
It appears in onions.
928
00:48:04.470 --> 00:48:05.990
I'm not sure acorns and onions.
929
00:48:06.050 --> 00:48:08.330
There's a band name called it.
930
00:48:08.450 --> 00:48:08.810
Yeah.
931
00:48:09.190 --> 00:48:09.470
Yeah.
932
00:48:09.670 --> 00:48:11.610
I'm a slob tart first simps second.
933
00:48:11.810 --> 00:48:11.990
Sorry.
934
00:48:12.070 --> 00:48:12.890
Them's the rules brought.
935
00:48:13.090 --> 00:48:13.650
Wow. Okay.
936
00:48:13.730 --> 00:48:14.870
Well, simp telling me how it is.
937
00:48:14.910 --> 00:48:16.430
I don't think that's how simping works.
938
00:48:19.060 --> 00:48:20.560
Kaylee kind of wants to heal speedball.
939
00:48:20.580 --> 00:48:21.940
I do too.
940
00:48:21.980 --> 00:48:23.120
I do too.
941
00:48:23.540 --> 00:48:23.940
Wow.
942
00:48:24.680 --> 00:48:30.660
Devil dinosaur says, I believe it was rush who said no changes are permanent, but change is.
943
00:48:31.260 --> 00:48:31.440
Wow.
944
00:48:32.160 --> 00:48:33.920
Quoting Neil Pert.
945
00:48:34.060 --> 00:48:34.500
RIP.
946
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:35.840
Yeah.
947
00:48:36.020 --> 00:48:39.700
Arne Anderson and Luchasaurus is garage band name is acorns and onions.
948
00:48:39.860 --> 00:48:42.700
If you listen to pro wrestling forever, you'll get that joke.
949
00:48:43.420 --> 00:48:44.380
Well, degree.
950
00:48:44.720 --> 00:48:50.080
It's because I'm a real heel and he's like, like, like I'm a good heel.
951
00:48:50.080 --> 00:48:50.420
Right.
952
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:52.620
But he's like an MJF chicken shit heel.
953
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:54.820
That's on a little bit of a baby face run.
954
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:57.100
Pretending he's like a good guy.
955
00:48:58.780 --> 00:48:59.260
Yeah.
956
00:48:59.680 --> 00:49:00.160
Yeah.
957
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:00.920
Yeah.
958
00:49:01.140 --> 00:49:02.680
Well, degree just admitted I'm not a heel.
959
00:49:02.740 --> 00:49:03.540
That's incredible.
960
00:49:03.540 --> 00:49:06.280
No, that's not what he said.
961
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:10.180
Antoine says splash them in a pair of Tim's just mwah.
962
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:12.780
Yeah, it was, it's pretty bad.
963
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:13.620
All right.
964
00:49:14.120 --> 00:49:15.800
So Kevin Knight, that's what he's doing.
965
00:49:16.740 --> 00:49:23.520
Meanwhile, our friend Kenosuke Takashita in the first bit of good news we've had in this episode one hour into it.
966
00:49:23.540 --> 00:49:24.220
Hold on.
967
00:49:24.380 --> 00:49:29.660
Can we just talk about the fact that Kevin Knight is definitely going to be teaming up with Swerve and might be the first member.
968
00:49:29.660 --> 00:49:35.440
Well, the second member of the embassy because it kind of seems like that's where it's going.
969
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:41.900
I can absolutely see it except Kevin wants everything right now.
970
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:47.960
You think he's going to play second fiddle to Swerve and Swerve definitely is not going to be playing second fiddle to Kevin Knight.
971
00:49:49.240 --> 00:49:55.880
I mean, even if it doesn't and he doesn't join the embassy and we get Kevin Knight for Swerve, it'll be fucking amazing.
972
00:49:58.000 --> 00:49:58.600
That's true.
973
00:49:58.880 --> 00:49:59.460
That's true.
974
00:49:59.460 --> 00:50:00.100
No.
975
00:50:00.220 --> 00:50:02.680
And I mean, that's of course where it's good.
976
00:50:03.180 --> 00:50:04.480
That's of course where it's going.
977
00:50:05.580 --> 00:50:11.080
Is Kevin Knight and Swerve are eventually going to clash in an epic battle where Swerve passes the torch to Kevin Knight.
978
00:50:12.180 --> 00:50:14.260
But Swerve needs to hold that torch for a little longer.
979
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:14.920
You know what I mean?
980
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:18.560
Like he hasn't even had enough time with the torch to pass the torch yet.
981
00:50:19.180 --> 00:50:20.880
Oh, Swerve's time is not done.
982
00:50:22.680 --> 00:50:26.000
Degree says some Blade puts the shit in chicken shit.
983
00:50:26.100 --> 00:50:26.640
What the?
984
00:50:28.100 --> 00:50:29.220
Come on.
985
00:50:29.220 --> 00:50:30.040
Come on.
986
00:50:30.160 --> 00:50:32.160
Degree is the elite to Blade's branding.
987
00:50:32.500 --> 00:50:33.560
What the?
988
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:37.680
God damn.
989
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:40.600
Those are fucking monsters over there.
990
00:50:40.860 --> 00:50:41.300
Okay.
991
00:50:41.620 --> 00:50:42.320
New topic.
992
00:50:42.820 --> 00:50:43.080
Takeshita.
993
00:50:43.120 --> 00:50:44.100
He's conglomerating.
994
00:50:44.260 --> 00:50:45.160
That's kind of cool.
995
00:50:46.260 --> 00:50:47.080
Isn't that neat?
996
00:50:47.520 --> 00:50:48.640
I think so.
997
00:50:49.300 --> 00:50:51.720
That's kind of not where I wanted Takeshita to be.
998
00:50:51.720 --> 00:50:53.240
You wanted him to go with the elite.
999
00:50:53.560 --> 00:50:53.740
I know.
1000
00:50:54.060 --> 00:50:54.480
I did.
1001
00:50:54.820 --> 00:50:55.480
We both did.
1002
00:50:56.360 --> 00:51:01.360
I'm going to wait and see because a lot of this is my fantasy booking, right?
1003
00:51:02.080 --> 00:51:05.420
And my disappointment in my fantasy booking.
1004
00:51:05.580 --> 00:51:08.800
So I'm going to wait and see before giving real opinions on this.
1005
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:12.580
Kaylee Matt says, can Books and I be the Young Bucks and Degree can be Kenny?
1006
00:51:12.620 --> 00:51:13.460
Why is Degree?
1007
00:51:13.540 --> 00:51:15.400
What the fuck is happening here?
1008
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:17.000
Well, you're Don Callis.
1009
00:51:17.340 --> 00:51:19.840
You want to be Don Callis, so take the opportunity.
1010
00:51:20.080 --> 00:51:20.680
That's fine.
1011
00:51:20.680 --> 00:51:22.680
I'll definitely be coming for Kenny then.
1012
00:51:23.460 --> 00:51:27.240
Blair line said I call Mike and that Michael Nakazawa because no one's claimed him yet.
1013
00:51:27.720 --> 00:51:28.640
All right.
1014
00:51:28.740 --> 00:51:29.680
Takeshita is conglomerating.
1015
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.060
And I like it because he has just turned baby face, newly minted baby face.
1016
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:45.320
And it started when Kyle Fletcher came out with the Callis family and Kyle Fletcher just starts talking about what a selfish prick Takeshita is.
1017
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:46.380
And I got to be honest.
1018
00:51:46.520 --> 00:51:50.660
Takeshita did kind of put his hatred of Okada first.
1019
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.740
Over the family, just like Kyle Fletcher said.
1020
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:59.440
And I mean, I'm not saying that he was wrong to do it.
1021
00:51:59.460 --> 00:52:02.960
I'm just saying that technically what Kyle and Don are saying is correct.
1022
00:52:04.040 --> 00:52:07.360
How does Don Callis's loafers taste?
1023
00:52:08.620 --> 00:52:09.300
Oh, they're all right.
1024
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:17.900
I mean, if you put a little bit of like, like butter on them and then you they can fit further in your mouth when you're licking his boots.
1025
00:52:17.900 --> 00:52:29.840
Anyway, so as Fletcher is saying this, Takeshita's music hits and he comes out with the conglomeration and he just says, Fletcher, I want you.
1026
00:52:31.200 --> 00:52:33.740
This is all awesome to me.
1027
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:34.080
Okay.
1028
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:36.020
Do you think Sky Blue gets jealous?
1029
00:52:37.120 --> 00:52:37.620
Yes.
1030
00:52:38.160 --> 00:52:38.680
Yes.
1031
00:52:38.680 --> 00:52:42.960
Because the homoerotic tension between these two is off the charts.
1032
00:52:43.560 --> 00:52:45.980
I want Fletcher leveling up beyond the TNT title.
1033
00:52:45.980 --> 00:52:53.160
You know, Fletcher kind of eyeing Kevin Knight was like, no, move on.
1034
00:52:54.100 --> 00:52:54.980
You're above this.
1035
00:52:56.720 --> 00:52:58.160
Like Fletcher's done with the TNT.
1036
00:52:58.820 --> 00:53:03.220
I think that's real Fletcher coming out and knowing that it's Will's time.
1037
00:53:04.160 --> 00:53:06.060
So he's willing to take it back.
1038
00:53:06.100 --> 00:53:15.700
Like, that's what I have to believe because Kyle, I also think is a huge little cinnamon roll in real life and just wants Will to get his moment.
1039
00:53:16.460 --> 00:53:18.220
Oh, yeah, I'm sure of that.
1040
00:53:18.240 --> 00:53:18.640
Yeah.
1041
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:24.120
So yeah, he comes out with the conglomeration.
1042
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:26.820
I think that's an interesting way to package him.
1043
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:29.580
I like it.
1044
00:53:30.160 --> 00:53:37.760
I gotta say Fletcher's composure during like his demeanor at Double or Nothing when he came out.
1045
00:53:38.080 --> 00:53:42.660
And in this promo segment, this guy's hit another new level.
1046
00:53:42.660 --> 00:53:55.280
Like the way he carries himself, how slowly he walks, how the looks he gives to the camera to convey kind of a sense of mystery about what he might be feeling, especially when he turned heel.
1047
00:53:56.380 --> 00:53:58.920
It's so fucking good.
1048
00:53:59.540 --> 00:54:00.320
This guy is a star.
1049
00:54:00.820 --> 00:54:02.100
He's just a massive star.
1050
00:54:02.900 --> 00:54:04.160
I think he might have.
1051
00:54:04.500 --> 00:54:05.360
I think he might have.
1052
00:54:05.820 --> 00:54:06.380
Yeah.
1053
00:54:06.900 --> 00:54:09.080
But like he's incredible.
1054
00:54:10.300 --> 00:54:12.120
Just Kyle Fletcher's really fucking good.
1055
00:54:12.120 --> 00:54:13.440
He's so good.
1056
00:54:14.220 --> 00:54:18.460
Yeah, I hope they continue to push him because that is their next.
1057
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:26.440
Like when the Will's and the Kenny's and the Okada's all start to retire, Kyle is going to be their face.
1058
00:54:27.060 --> 00:54:28.560
Look at the future of AEW.
1059
00:54:28.620 --> 00:54:31.260
You got Bandito, Takeshita, Fletcher.
1060
00:54:31.540 --> 00:54:32.620
You've got Jay White.
1061
00:54:32.820 --> 00:54:36.540
You've got Darby Allen, provided that Darby Allen can still walk in five years.
1062
00:54:36.540 --> 00:54:42.500
You've got Jack Perry, who I think his stock has really risen for me since he's come back.
1063
00:54:42.940 --> 00:54:45.900
I can actually see him one day being a world champion now.
1064
00:54:46.380 --> 00:54:49.000
It's good to know that at least their men's division is in a good spot.
1065
00:54:49.680 --> 00:54:50.120
Yeah.
1066
00:54:50.340 --> 00:54:51.180
Well, that's the thing.
1067
00:54:51.180 --> 00:54:54.700
They know how to build stars in the men's division, so you know they know how to do it elsewhere.
1068
00:54:55.200 --> 00:54:56.180
So no excuses.
1069
00:54:56.420 --> 00:54:59.820
That's why you guys have no excuses because you're too good to have excuses.
1070
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:05.020
Security Universe says, you know, we don't know if maybe Roddy Strong makes some bomb ass cinnamon rolls.
1071
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.080
That would be enough to get them to conglomerate.
1072
00:55:07.080 --> 00:55:07.600
It's true.
1073
00:55:07.820 --> 00:55:08.700
That is true.
1074
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:11.560
Caleb has the conglomeration are cinnamon rolls.
1075
00:55:11.740 --> 00:55:13.860
And I say they really are out of love.
1076
00:55:14.020 --> 00:55:16.240
Yeah, they really are.
1077
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:19.040
They are the most cinnamon coated wrote root.
1078
00:55:21.520 --> 00:55:22.200
That was good.
1079
00:55:22.460 --> 00:55:23.180
That was good.
1080
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:25.800
I'm not even trying.
1081
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:31.980
Coated most cinnamon coated coated faction to ever exist.
1082
00:55:33.060 --> 00:55:33.420
That's true.
1083
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:34.280
That's true.
1084
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:38.560
Player line says Blade does French onion soup shoeys out of Don's loafers.
1085
00:55:38.680 --> 00:55:41.860
I mean, he only made me do that once.
1086
00:55:41.940 --> 00:55:43.880
And that was like how that was my initiation.
1087
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:46.260
That's how they jumped me into the Don Callis family.
1088
00:55:48.140 --> 00:55:52.260
Tino says we need a mixed tag with Kyle and Sky versus talking and Yuka.
1089
00:55:52.540 --> 00:55:53.280
I agree.
1090
00:55:53.740 --> 00:55:54.220
Awesome.
1091
00:55:54.220 --> 00:55:57.340
Kyle has been better than the TNT title for like six months.
1092
00:55:57.440 --> 00:55:58.180
At least.
1093
00:55:58.620 --> 00:55:59.040
At least.
1094
00:55:59.200 --> 00:56:03.220
I think it was really since that match with Hangman in the main event at All Out.
1095
00:56:04.060 --> 00:56:05.560
That was the moment for Kyle.
1096
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:08.260
Like he's put him in the main event of a pay-per-view anytime.
1097
00:56:08.980 --> 00:56:11.280
Skewer Universe says he did Proto Sheeta.
1098
00:56:12.220 --> 00:56:12.700
Yes.
1099
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:13.780
Yeah.
1100
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:22.840
I really need more more smut wrestling books because it is these rivalries are so smut coated.
1101
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:23.700
Yeah.
1102
00:56:24.060 --> 00:56:24.320
Yeah.
1103
00:56:24.720 --> 00:56:26.120
I wish I was a better writer.
1104
00:56:27.220 --> 00:56:27.980
Kayleigh says yes.
1105
00:56:28.100 --> 00:56:29.420
More intergender tag matches.
1106
00:56:29.600 --> 00:56:29.980
I agree.
1107
00:56:30.040 --> 00:56:30.440
I agree.
1108
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:31.360
That would be a lot of fun.
1109
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:32.300
So yeah.
1110
00:56:32.300 --> 00:56:32.920
So that's cool.
1111
00:56:32.980 --> 00:56:36.100
It's so I'm and really I've been saying this for a long time.
1112
00:56:36.220 --> 00:56:41.620
Takesha cannot take that next level turn until he has a story and something that
1113
00:56:41.620 --> 00:56:43.740
helps you understand who he is.
1114
00:56:43.740 --> 00:56:49.420
And this finally accomplished that where you saw he doesn't like cheating.
1115
00:56:49.680 --> 00:56:52.100
He doesn't like when people interfere in his matches.
1116
00:56:52.100 --> 00:56:54.320
He doesn't want people to interfere in his matches.
1117
00:56:54.640 --> 00:57:02.180
He wants people to let him do his thing, you know, and he likes to have friends that
1118
00:57:02.180 --> 00:57:04.960
he can rely on but not to cheat in his matches.
1119
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:07.620
And that's why he didn't fit in the Don Callis family anymore.
1120
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:10.060
And that's why he got kicked out.
1121
00:57:10.140 --> 00:57:13.220
And now he has those friends in the conglomeration.
1122
00:57:13.460 --> 00:57:17.080
And like outside of like is it K-Fave or K-Pop?
1123
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:18.540
K-Fave.
1124
00:57:18.720 --> 00:57:19.500
K-Fave.
1125
00:57:19.500 --> 00:57:23.580
Takesha being with Don was so good for his character, too.
1126
00:57:24.340 --> 00:57:27.920
Like I think it gave him confidence to speak on the mic.
1127
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:29.700
He doesn't really need a mouthpiece anymore.
1128
00:57:30.240 --> 00:57:30.720
Right.
1129
00:57:30.820 --> 00:57:33.580
So like this is going to be really good for his future.
1130
00:57:34.160 --> 00:57:35.060
I agree.
1131
00:57:35.420 --> 00:57:36.080
I agree.
1132
00:57:36.620 --> 00:57:37.320
No, it set him up.
1133
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:39.480
It set him up with everything you really need.
1134
00:57:40.020 --> 00:57:41.640
A couple other things here.
1135
00:57:41.820 --> 00:57:44.540
There's some new potential challengers for MJF.
1136
00:57:44.580 --> 00:57:45.180
Some excite me.
1137
00:57:45.200 --> 00:57:46.560
Some don't.
1138
00:57:46.560 --> 00:57:49.600
Mark Briscoe interrupted MJF's celebration to challenge him.
1139
00:57:49.680 --> 00:57:52.440
And I'm going to say I'm not super high on that idea.
1140
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:55.880
Mark Briscoe versus MJF again.
1141
00:57:57.180 --> 00:57:57.480
Nah.
1142
00:57:57.860 --> 00:57:58.080
I'm good.
1143
00:57:58.280 --> 00:57:59.340
This is what I like.
1144
00:57:59.540 --> 00:58:02.800
My issues is we keep getting matches like this that are not needed.
1145
00:58:05.300 --> 00:58:05.320
Yeah.
1146
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:06.760
And we've seen it a bunch.
1147
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:09.100
You know, I like Mark Briscoe.
1148
00:58:09.100 --> 00:58:11.620
I don't see him as the AEW World title.
1149
00:58:11.700 --> 00:58:12.540
I don't.
1150
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:13.380
Level guy.
1151
00:58:13.820 --> 00:58:15.340
And I don't want to see him there.
1152
00:58:15.340 --> 00:58:17.720
And I don't want to see that match take up space.
1153
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:20.000
That's something better could take up.
1154
00:58:20.180 --> 00:58:21.740
I like Mark a lot.
1155
00:58:21.900 --> 00:58:24.300
I just don't want him.
1156
00:58:25.180 --> 00:58:26.460
In that position.
1157
00:58:26.560 --> 00:58:27.860
I don't want to challenge him.
1158
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:28.520
Yeah.
1159
00:58:29.060 --> 00:58:29.780
Just not.
1160
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:31.640
Which one I am excited for.
1161
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:32.350
Who's that?
1162
00:58:33.680 --> 00:58:34.680
MJF first.
1163
00:58:34.680 --> 00:58:35.520
First Roosh.
1164
00:58:36.140 --> 00:58:36.640
Yeah.
1165
00:58:36.720 --> 00:58:40.460
So as so as Max is having his little celebration.
1166
00:58:44.700 --> 00:58:45.160
My God.
1167
00:58:45.260 --> 00:58:46.680
Is that the fucking Kenny doll?
1168
00:58:51.820 --> 00:58:55.820
It's so sensitive that if you move it the wrong way, it starts talking.
1169
00:58:56.080 --> 00:58:56.960
Mm hmm.
1170
00:58:57.220 --> 00:59:00.020
Devil dinosaur says I would agree with Joe that Fletch has been better than
1171
00:59:00.020 --> 00:59:03.480
the TNT title for months, but who knows what the hierarchy of belts even is
1172
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:04.140
in AEW.
1173
00:59:04.600 --> 00:59:05.320
Yeah, I know.
1174
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:06.680
We've talked about it a million times.
1175
00:59:08.020 --> 00:59:10.880
Blair Lyce ever says he grew a backbone, which is a cardinal sin and the
1176
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:13.880
cult of callous, apparently in the cult of WBD as well.
1177
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:18.820
You need to be Rocky Romero levels of invertebrate to survive enough.
1178
00:59:20.100 --> 00:59:20.500
True.
1179
00:59:21.640 --> 00:59:24.440
Kaylee says if it's not a dog collar match, I'm not too excited about it.
1180
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:27.560
That's that would actually be kind of cool to see MJF briscoe.
1181
00:59:27.600 --> 00:59:30.940
And then then he can have the real first best dog collar.
1182
00:59:31.300 --> 00:59:31.700
Imagine.
1183
00:59:32.340 --> 00:59:32.740
Yeah.
1184
00:59:33.720 --> 00:59:36.920
Blair Lyce says if MJF briscoe is only a TV program for you between
1185
00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:37.820
pay-per-views, I'm fine.
1186
00:59:37.860 --> 00:59:39.520
But like I don't want this on a pay-per-view.
1187
00:59:39.940 --> 00:59:43.420
That's kind of I think maybe I'm assuming that they would do it on a
1188
00:59:43.420 --> 00:59:45.980
pay-per-view and that's not really what I want at all.
1189
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:46.820
I can see it.
1190
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:51.420
I mean, because a lot of the Forbidden Door title matches have not been
1191
00:59:51.420 --> 00:59:56.700
like as premier as they usually are because they kind of take second
1192
00:59:56.700 --> 00:59:58.960
fiddle to some of the dream matches that they're making.
1193
00:59:59.460 --> 01:00:05.480
So I kind of wondered if they would make Roosh or briscoe a challenger
1194
01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:06.380
at the pay-per-view.
1195
01:00:06.980 --> 01:00:11.720
But yeah, Roosh came out as MJF is walking away from Mark briscoe.
1196
01:00:11.720 --> 01:00:15.760
Roosh comes out and cuts a pretty decent promo on MJF.
1197
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:18.460
I wish they would let him talk in English a little more and say more
1198
01:00:18.460 --> 01:00:22.500
than just a sketch phrase because he's pretty good at it.
1199
01:00:22.500 --> 01:00:26.720
And they kind of made him a baby face ish in this promo, even
1200
01:00:26.720 --> 01:00:29.700
though we all know Roosh is he's a heel at heart.
1201
01:00:29.740 --> 01:00:33.600
He's got a strangling cable back, which I noticed in the in the
1202
01:00:33.600 --> 01:00:37.820
four-way match Roosh without a strangler is green strangling cable
1203
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:40.200
is no Roosh at all.
1204
01:00:40.200 --> 01:00:42.960
And he did get it back.
1205
01:00:43.160 --> 01:00:44.480
He won a four-way match.
1206
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:50.320
It's felt like they've been building him up to for something they've
1207
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:55.560
been showing more, you know, more video clips of him more.
1208
01:00:55.700 --> 01:00:57.220
They've been building him up for a little while.
1209
01:00:57.460 --> 01:00:58.620
So that's cool.
1210
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:00.640
Yes.
1211
01:01:00.680 --> 01:01:02.560
Always never said it best briscoe is dope.
1212
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:03.260
I agree.
1213
01:01:03.260 --> 01:01:04.260
I want to see a match up.
1214
01:01:04.380 --> 01:01:05.340
I've not seen agree.
1215
01:01:06.200 --> 01:01:06.660
Okay.
1216
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:10.260
Lee says erase the sins of the punk era and put on a banger.
1217
01:01:10.340 --> 01:01:10.820
I agree.
1218
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:11.860
I do agree with that.
1219
01:01:11.900 --> 01:01:12.300
Yeah.
1220
01:01:12.300 --> 01:01:15.040
So if they did that on a dynamite, like a special dynamite or
1221
01:01:15.040 --> 01:01:18.320
something, I'd be so down for that.
1222
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.720
A blurry line seven MJF usually does not really participate in
1223
01:01:21.720 --> 01:01:22.600
forbidden door matches.
1224
01:01:23.240 --> 01:01:25.080
However, he has done it.
1225
01:01:25.080 --> 01:01:27.920
He had one against Ta-Nehisi and I believe he had one against
1226
01:01:28.460 --> 01:01:30.140
Roosh if I'm not mistaken.
1227
01:01:31.340 --> 01:01:35.320
So that's kind of interesting because he has he has wrestled
1228
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:35.620
Roosh.
1229
01:01:35.700 --> 01:01:36.780
I believe it was on a pay-per-view.
1230
01:01:36.940 --> 01:01:38.400
I believe it was his return match.
1231
01:01:38.820 --> 01:01:40.620
He wrestled Roosh on a pay-per-view and beat him with a
1232
01:01:40.620 --> 01:01:41.640
brain buster.
1233
01:01:42.060 --> 01:01:44.340
Tino Ibarra says, Hey, I will accept no Rocky Romero
1234
01:01:44.340 --> 01:01:44.640
slander.
1235
01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:47.700
He and mystical what got me watching a W week to week
1236
01:01:47.700 --> 01:01:48.060
LOL.
1237
01:01:49.020 --> 01:01:51.980
The Rocky slanders only gave a I love Rocky Romero.
1238
01:01:52.080 --> 01:01:54.360
He is a saint and somebody who's done a lot of good in
1239
01:01:55.420 --> 01:01:57.980
wrestling MJF gets forced to participate in forbidden door
1240
01:01:57.980 --> 01:01:58.280
LOL.
1241
01:01:58.480 --> 01:01:59.080
That's true.
1242
01:01:59.140 --> 01:01:59.980
That's true.
1243
01:02:00.600 --> 01:02:03.600
And blurry like said calls the green strangling cable
1244
01:02:03.600 --> 01:02:05.980
greenie Garrett returned sooner than Jay White.
1245
01:02:06.600 --> 01:02:07.220
Very true.
1246
01:02:07.520 --> 01:02:08.120
Very true.
1247
01:02:08.680 --> 01:02:09.160
Okay.
1248
01:02:09.380 --> 01:02:10.760
So that's what's going on there.
1249
01:02:10.820 --> 01:02:13.000
And you know, Kevin Knight also says he wants to be jet
1250
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:13.420
two belts.
1251
01:02:13.420 --> 01:02:15.840
So you've got three possible contenders on the horizon
1252
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:17.520
already for MJF.
1253
01:02:18.460 --> 01:02:23.420
There was a very fascinating video montage, not montage.
1254
01:02:23.500 --> 01:02:26.520
There was a fascinating video shot in the trainer's
1255
01:02:26.520 --> 01:02:31.860
room with your boy Kenny who's waving at me obnoxiously
1256
01:02:31.860 --> 01:02:33.500
pointing at the sky.
1257
01:02:35.660 --> 01:02:38.180
I thought this was actually one of the most interesting
1258
01:02:38.180 --> 01:02:40.140
things that happened on the entire show.
1259
01:02:40.380 --> 01:02:42.140
It was fascinating storytelling.
1260
01:02:42.460 --> 01:02:45.200
So will is talking to somebody.
1261
01:02:45.260 --> 01:02:47.580
He walks into the trainer's room and Kenny is in there
1262
01:02:47.580 --> 01:02:48.800
with an ice pack on his head.
1263
01:02:49.160 --> 01:02:51.600
That is a complete inversion of the last time this
1264
01:02:51.600 --> 01:02:51.880
happened.
1265
01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:53.580
It was Kenny walking into the trainer's room.
1266
01:02:53.860 --> 01:02:56.860
Will was in there with an ice pack on right after
1267
01:02:57.700 --> 01:02:58.140
dynasty.
1268
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:01.460
Kenny says that he is happy that wills advancing but
1269
01:03:01.460 --> 01:03:03.580
he is shocked to see him working with the death
1270
01:03:03.580 --> 01:03:06.880
writers and asked why didn't he call Kenny instead
1271
01:03:07.560 --> 01:03:11.140
and will says I would make but you're never here
1272
01:03:11.140 --> 01:03:12.700
which is very true.
1273
01:03:12.700 --> 01:03:13.100
Yeah.
1274
01:03:13.180 --> 01:03:14.020
Well, yeah.
1275
01:03:14.120 --> 01:03:14.860
Well, yeah.
1276
01:03:14.940 --> 01:03:15.300
Thank you.
1277
01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:18.200
Well, I think well literally the mouthpiece for
1278
01:03:18.200 --> 01:03:22.620
you books and it's a very valid question.
1279
01:03:22.640 --> 01:03:24.400
He says when can he reach out for you if you're
1280
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:27.340
never here and Kenny says look he's not the
1281
01:03:27.340 --> 01:03:29.560
same guy he once was he handles he handles
1282
01:03:29.560 --> 01:03:30.140
things differently.
1283
01:03:30.140 --> 01:03:31.200
It's not just his body.
1284
01:03:31.560 --> 01:03:32.900
It says it's an emotional thing.
1285
01:03:33.080 --> 01:03:35.700
It's a it's a it's you know he needs to get
1286
01:03:35.700 --> 01:03:37.220
back on the horse in a different way than he
1287
01:03:37.220 --> 01:03:40.460
used to Kenny says he's not telling will not
1288
01:03:40.460 --> 01:03:42.560
to trust the death writers just to be careful
1289
01:03:43.260 --> 01:03:45.900
and somebody goes well that's a great advice
1290
01:03:45.900 --> 01:03:48.960
from behind both of them and it's fucking
1291
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:55.280
John Delpont Moxley who shows up with an
1292
01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:58.500
ice pack for will he's already got one for
1293
01:03:58.500 --> 01:04:01.900
will because he's he's got his back now Moxley
1294
01:04:01.900 --> 01:04:05.360
says we all have skeletons don't we and Kenny
1295
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:08.020
responds don't we all don't we all you have
1296
01:04:08.020 --> 01:04:09.840
the perfect opportunity for me to do my Kenny
1297
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:10.240
voice.
1298
01:04:10.260 --> 01:04:10.660
Okay.
1299
01:04:10.660 --> 01:04:12.420
You do it again.
1300
01:04:13.040 --> 01:04:13.940
Don't we all.
1301
01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:14.540
Yeah.
1302
01:04:14.900 --> 01:04:15.340
Okay.
1303
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:18.000
The mock sells the mock sells well it's
1304
01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:20.280
time to go and Kenny tells will to call
1305
01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:23.720
him anytime and then will says to Kenny not
1306
01:04:23.720 --> 01:04:25.280
to give up on that world title.
1307
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:29.540
Kenny tells will the same very interesting
1308
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:33.800
I am still a hundred percent sure all in is
1309
01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:36.420
going to be Kenny versus Osprey.
1310
01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:39.840
I feel like it's Kenny versus Osprey and
1311
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:42.500
how mocks factors into that is another
1312
01:04:42.500 --> 01:04:45.400
thing entirely the slight background
1313
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:47.660
object in this whole thing is John
1314
01:04:47.660 --> 01:04:51.720
Moxley where I do feel as though perhaps
1315
01:04:51.720 --> 01:04:53.720
it could be Kenny versus Moxley for the
1316
01:04:53.720 --> 01:04:56.100
title which would be cool.
1317
01:04:57.220 --> 01:04:58.840
And then the winner faces Kenosuke to
1318
01:04:58.840 --> 01:04:59.720
catch you.
1319
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:02.180
So you mean that we finally get the
1320
01:05:02.180 --> 01:05:02.920
unified back.
1321
01:05:03.500 --> 01:05:03.880
Yes.
1322
01:05:04.240 --> 01:05:04.680
Yes.
1323
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:07.180
And that's mostly because I just like
1324
01:05:07.180 --> 01:05:08.220
that belt a lot.
1325
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:09.540
It's such an awesome belt.
1326
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:11.140
Security Universe said you had Kenny
1327
01:05:11.140 --> 01:05:12.600
pointing at the devil's sky.
1328
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:13.600
Professor degree.
1329
01:05:13.700 --> 01:05:15.640
I'm guessing MJF will fuck briscoe up
1330
01:05:15.640 --> 01:05:16.980
which will make him even more hated.
1331
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:17.460
That's cool.
1332
01:05:17.520 --> 01:05:18.400
Just wrap it up quick.
1333
01:05:18.820 --> 01:05:18.980
Yeah.
1334
01:05:18.980 --> 01:05:19.440
That's fair.
1335
01:05:19.620 --> 01:05:20.160
That's fair.
1336
01:05:21.520 --> 01:05:23.520
Also briscoe kind of got punked in that
1337
01:05:23.520 --> 01:05:23.960
promo.
1338
01:05:24.520 --> 01:05:26.940
MJF just was like no I'm not dealing
1339
01:05:26.940 --> 01:05:28.160
with you and walked away from him.
1340
01:05:29.180 --> 01:05:30.360
Will said what books was thinking.
1341
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:31.600
That is absolutely true.
1342
01:05:31.660 --> 01:05:33.180
In fact books I actually thought of
1343
01:05:33.180 --> 01:05:34.900
you during that moment because I'm
1344
01:05:34.900 --> 01:05:36.380
like what books would have said to
1345
01:05:36.380 --> 01:05:37.900
Kenny if she was in front of him.
1346
01:05:38.020 --> 01:05:38.660
I died.
1347
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:40.420
I was like oh my god are they
1348
01:05:40.420 --> 01:05:40.700
reading.
1349
01:05:41.140 --> 01:05:43.380
Again I can convince the fact that
1350
01:05:43.380 --> 01:05:44.600
AEW pays attention to what we're
1351
01:05:44.600 --> 01:05:47.400
saying because I have literally been
1352
01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:48.840
on this high horse for like three
1353
01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:50.700
weeks now about Kenny not showing up
1354
01:05:50.700 --> 01:05:53.040
to like I just want I just want some
1355
01:05:53.040 --> 01:05:53.540
compensation.
1356
01:05:53.540 --> 01:05:54.180
That's all.
1357
01:05:54.460 --> 01:05:56.180
You know we are giving them so much
1358
01:05:56.180 --> 01:05:57.960
that they're using in the creative
1359
01:05:57.960 --> 01:05:59.960
Don ripping into me for not
1360
01:05:59.960 --> 01:06:01.340
understanding what an undisputed
1361
01:06:01.340 --> 01:06:03.000
title or like yeah the unified
1362
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:04.780
title was not going to lie.
1363
01:06:04.780 --> 01:06:06.160
Will was fucking on the money and
1364
01:06:06.160 --> 01:06:07.000
how he ripped into Kenny.
1365
01:06:07.040 --> 01:06:07.500
Very true.
1366
01:06:07.660 --> 01:06:09.180
Blurry line and blurry line
1367
01:06:09.180 --> 01:06:10.500
continues Will's turn to the
1368
01:06:10.500 --> 01:06:11.900
death writers is extremely good
1369
01:06:11.900 --> 01:06:13.640
storytelling because it's rooted in
1370
01:06:13.640 --> 01:06:15.100
logic and reality like death writers
1371
01:06:15.100 --> 01:06:16.840
are always there always willing to
1372
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:18.040
train and improve and Kenny does
1373
01:06:18.040 --> 01:06:21.440
sometimes sell us the sometimes
1374
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:23.600
tell us he's God but he hasn't been
1375
01:06:23.600 --> 01:06:24.900
following through on his reputation.
1376
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:26.460
That's a good point.
1377
01:06:26.460 --> 01:06:27.420
That's a good point.
1378
01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:28.040
Blurry line.
1379
01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:29.800
Ooh.
1380
01:06:30.700 --> 01:06:31.180
What?
1381
01:06:31.180 --> 01:06:32.320
Skewered universe says wait was
1382
01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:32.840
Kenny just here.
1383
01:06:32.940 --> 01:06:34.260
I swear I heard him.
1384
01:06:34.680 --> 01:06:35.060
Shut up.
1385
01:06:35.100 --> 01:06:35.800
Don't approach this.
1386
01:06:35.900 --> 01:06:36.720
Don't encourage this.
1387
01:06:37.500 --> 01:06:38.320
Yes mocks.
1388
01:06:38.420 --> 01:06:39.720
We all have skeletons inside us.
1389
01:06:39.720 --> 01:06:40.400
Very good.
1390
01:06:40.520 --> 01:06:40.760
Tito.
1391
01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:44.660
And then Blurry line says I saw
1392
01:06:44.660 --> 01:06:45.620
somebody else say this too.
1393
01:06:45.620 --> 01:06:46.920
I wouldn't mind Kenny mocks and
1394
01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:48.820
I'm still in a three way that could
1395
01:06:48.820 --> 01:06:49.800
sell a bunch of tickets.
1396
01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:50.360
Mm-hmm.
1397
01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:51.320
I think you can sell a bunch of
1398
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:51.980
tickets that way.
1399
01:06:52.020 --> 01:06:52.840
A ton of tickets.
1400
01:06:52.860 --> 01:06:54.560
I would prefer a one-on-one to be
1401
01:06:54.560 --> 01:06:56.320
honest because then you get a
1402
01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:57.860
definitive winner unless it's an
1403
01:06:57.860 --> 01:06:58.780
elimination three way.
1404
01:06:59.600 --> 01:07:01.640
But I I I'm I would love to
1405
01:07:01.640 --> 01:07:01.780
three.
1406
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:02.900
What am I talking about?
1407
01:07:03.620 --> 01:07:04.800
All three of those wrestlers have
1408
01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:06.580
been amazing three ways in their
1409
01:07:06.580 --> 01:07:07.980
careers completely separate from each
1410
01:07:07.980 --> 01:07:08.400
other.
1411
01:07:08.640 --> 01:07:08.960
Yeah.
1412
01:07:10.420 --> 01:07:10.760
Yeah.
1413
01:07:12.020 --> 01:07:13.060
Kaylee says Well, it's
1414
01:07:13.060 --> 01:07:14.260
technically accurate to call him a
1415
01:07:14.260 --> 01:07:15.660
God because he is an absent one
1416
01:07:15.660 --> 01:07:16.120
currently.
1417
01:07:16.120 --> 01:07:19.460
Yeah, he's so, he's so chuck-coated right now.
1418
01:07:20.140 --> 01:07:22.060
You won't get that until you watch Supernatural.
1419
01:07:22.720 --> 01:07:24.260
Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about.
1420
01:07:24.500 --> 01:07:26.040
He's reading lots of unanswered prayers.
1421
01:07:26.100 --> 01:07:26.740
That's true.
1422
01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:27.820
That's true.
1423
01:07:29.580 --> 01:07:30.940
Books is questioning her faith.
1424
01:07:31.100 --> 01:07:32.300
Kenny needs to be more present.
1425
01:07:33.860 --> 01:07:34.220
Yeah.
1426
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:38.780
He almost turned me to Don Callis' side, to the devil.
1427
01:07:39.040 --> 01:07:40.260
That was really close.
1428
01:07:40.380 --> 01:07:42.080
And MJF is the actual devil.
1429
01:07:42.080 --> 01:07:46.100
So, I mean, you almost went with a false prophet devil, you know?
1430
01:07:46.860 --> 01:07:47.260
Yeah.
1431
01:07:47.780 --> 01:07:50.040
Professor Degree says, will someone buy Blade a unified title
1432
01:07:50.040 --> 01:07:52.800
replica belt so he shuts the fuck up about it?
1433
01:07:52.860 --> 01:07:54.880
Can I, can someone buy me one first?
1434
01:07:55.080 --> 01:07:59.180
Actually, no, buy it for me and I won't shut the, I'll just be showing it all
1435
01:07:59.180 --> 01:08:01.980
the time. I'll sit with it on my shoulder during every show.
1436
01:08:02.540 --> 01:08:03.300
Yes, I'll lie.
1437
01:08:04.680 --> 01:08:07.980
I'm excited for whatever, whatever this is building up for all in.
1438
01:08:08.120 --> 01:08:09.000
I'm very excited.
1439
01:08:09.460 --> 01:08:10.740
Yeah, I really do.
1440
01:08:10.740 --> 01:08:17.340
I know Will versus MJF would be great, but I just think of like how AEW started
1441
01:08:18.080 --> 01:08:21.140
and like Kenny's everything with Will.
1442
01:08:21.939 --> 01:08:27.479
If we're on a Kenny last type of contracting, Will versus Kenny,
1443
01:08:27.819 --> 01:08:32.620
especially at their biggest overseas show, it just feels like a no-brainer.
1444
01:08:33.020 --> 01:08:36.800
It's hard for me to see Will versus MJF again.
1445
01:08:37.240 --> 01:08:40.720
I just, they've already, they did it for the international title two years
1446
01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:44.800
ago. And that was the last time they were in England even.
1447
01:08:46.080 --> 01:08:50.040
And Will beat him, you know, so it's not like they need to do that again.
1448
01:08:50.260 --> 01:08:54.700
And I don't think people are as stoked for that match as they would be for
1449
01:08:54.700 --> 01:08:59.840
the rubber match with Kenny Omega and Will Ospreay, where Will wins the
1450
01:08:59.840 --> 01:09:03.680
world title. Maybe Kenny turns heel in the middle of this whole thing,
1451
01:09:03.700 --> 01:09:05.260
because that's kind of-
1452
01:09:05.260 --> 01:09:06.880
He has the heel, he has the heel hair going.
1453
01:09:07.160 --> 01:09:08.359
That is his heel hair.
1454
01:09:08.899 --> 01:09:11.000
The blonde kind of coming out.
1455
01:09:11.859 --> 01:09:15.020
Like Antoine would normally tell me I'm conspiracy theorizing,
1456
01:09:15.020 --> 01:09:16.960
but did the Moxley, we all have skeletons.
1457
01:09:17.020 --> 01:09:19.479
Did that mean something? Was that alluding to something?
1458
01:09:21.510 --> 01:09:23.950
I think it's alluding to Kenny being a heel.
1459
01:09:24.770 --> 01:09:28.090
Yeah, or maybe Moxley knows something that Kenny did that was heelish
1460
01:09:28.090 --> 01:09:29.729
that nobody else knows right now.
1461
01:09:30.189 --> 01:09:32.950
Like maybe Kenny talked to Dawn or something, you know what I mean?
1462
01:09:33.970 --> 01:09:37.689
You're telling me I have to shell 24-7 and then use my own shell
1463
01:09:37.689 --> 01:09:38.850
paychecks to pay for the merch.
1464
01:09:38.850 --> 01:09:40.590
I agree. I agree.
1465
01:09:40.729 --> 01:09:43.890
Kenny betrayed the Bucks like the Bucks betrayed Kenny with Hangman.
1466
01:09:44.370 --> 01:09:45.830
Exactly. Exactly.
1467
01:09:49.229 --> 01:09:50.490
Oh, that's good.
1468
01:09:50.930 --> 01:09:52.029
That's good.
1469
01:09:52.649 --> 01:09:55.250
I think Will MJF has done basically everything they need to do.
1470
01:09:55.270 --> 01:09:56.550
We can do that again in a few years.
1471
01:09:56.650 --> 01:09:57.950
They're both like early 30s. Totally.
1472
01:09:58.290 --> 01:09:59.150
They'll still be there.
1473
01:09:59.310 --> 01:10:01.350
I think you get Kenny Omega in the kind of shape
1474
01:10:01.350 --> 01:10:03.590
he's in for a very limited amount of time.
1475
01:10:03.630 --> 01:10:05.330
I don't think he can maintain that much.
1476
01:10:05.930 --> 01:10:08.770
No. And the way he looked in that stadium stampede match,
1477
01:10:08.770 --> 01:10:12.170
he looked even better than he's looked prior to that.
1478
01:10:12.190 --> 01:10:13.890
And he's looked great all year long.
1479
01:10:15.790 --> 01:10:17.430
Yeah. He's definitely back.
1480
01:10:17.490 --> 01:10:22.030
So let's give these last couple of dream matches like Okada and Kenny
1481
01:10:22.030 --> 01:10:23.370
Will and Kenny like.
1482
01:10:23.690 --> 01:10:26.810
And give him the world title run, you know, give him one more world.
1483
01:10:26.970 --> 01:10:27.950
He only needs one more time,
1484
01:10:27.950 --> 01:10:30.470
because then you could put the trios back on the elite.
1485
01:10:30.830 --> 01:10:33.010
Yeah. And I don't think Kenny needs to be champion for long.
1486
01:10:33.130 --> 01:10:36.390
I mean, if he won the belt right now, he'd only be champion for a few months.
1487
01:10:36.930 --> 01:10:40.870
But, you know, I want to see that rubber match between Will and Kenny,
1488
01:10:41.290 --> 01:10:43.770
you know, and we'll obviously going to win.
1489
01:10:44.010 --> 01:10:45.570
And that's totally fine,
1490
01:10:45.850 --> 01:10:47.570
because I can always go watch that first match
1491
01:10:47.570 --> 01:10:49.870
where Kenny absolutely destroyed him all over again.
1492
01:10:50.790 --> 01:10:52.810
And Kenny was such a great heal in that fucking match, too.
1493
01:10:52.810 --> 01:10:53.810
Oh, my God.
1494
01:10:54.150 --> 01:10:55.750
Kenny hired the death riders to hurt.
1495
01:10:55.910 --> 01:10:59.190
Well, hmm. Hmm.
1496
01:11:00.470 --> 01:11:01.110
Blurry line.
1497
01:11:01.350 --> 01:11:03.590
I mean, Mox knows that Kenny fucking worked with Don
1498
01:11:03.590 --> 01:11:05.510
to screw him out of the world title of the first winner is coming.
1499
01:11:05.510 --> 01:11:06.450
I mean, that's true.
1500
01:11:07.170 --> 01:11:07.790
That's true.
1501
01:11:08.250 --> 01:11:10.050
Always never says a W never forgets.
1502
01:11:10.050 --> 01:11:10.870
I think it was a generic.
1503
01:11:10.990 --> 01:11:12.310
We all have skeletons in our closet.
1504
01:11:12.430 --> 01:11:15.190
So not to throw stones, glass house situation.
1505
01:11:15.890 --> 01:11:18.510
I that's what that was my initial impression of it.
1506
01:11:18.510 --> 01:11:20.170
And then I started thinking too hard about it.
1507
01:11:20.170 --> 01:11:22.850
I mean, I I do a podcast.
1508
01:11:23.070 --> 01:11:24.270
I have to think too hard.
1509
01:11:24.850 --> 01:11:26.030
It's kind of part of the job.
1510
01:11:26.410 --> 01:11:27.670
But you're I think you're right.
1511
01:11:27.670 --> 01:11:28.850
Always never. I think you're right.
1512
01:11:30.050 --> 01:11:31.250
All right. Last thing.
1513
01:11:31.610 --> 01:11:33.590
We got some Owen Hart tournament stuff.
1514
01:11:33.590 --> 01:11:37.870
Brody King beat Claudio and advances to face Swerve in the semifinal.
1515
01:11:38.090 --> 01:11:42.090
I didn't think this was a pretty match or the best I've seen between these two.
1516
01:11:42.750 --> 01:11:45.330
They had a different style of match than they've had before.
1517
01:11:45.330 --> 01:11:46.650
And I respect that, though.
1518
01:11:47.030 --> 01:11:50.110
It was a genuine Haas fight where they just threw shots
1519
01:11:50.110 --> 01:11:51.310
until one of them went down.
1520
01:11:51.670 --> 01:11:54.790
I don't think it was a great match, but it was it was fine.
1521
01:11:55.890 --> 01:11:56.650
What do you think, books?
1522
01:11:56.890 --> 01:11:59.510
I agree. I kind of not that I meant to,
1523
01:11:59.510 --> 01:12:01.910
but I think I turned out tuned out during that match,
1524
01:12:01.910 --> 01:12:04.010
because I think that was the peak of my anger.
1525
01:12:04.210 --> 01:12:07.350
Oh, I see. Oh, no fires of rage.
1526
01:12:08.510 --> 01:12:10.830
That has been smoked and we're starting to burn too.
1527
01:12:10.830 --> 01:12:14.730
I think I was seeing red at that point and don't remember that match at all
1528
01:12:14.730 --> 01:12:15.850
other than Brody winning.
1529
01:12:16.550 --> 01:12:18.190
Like, that's the first thing I remember.
1530
01:12:18.450 --> 01:12:21.910
It was kind of slow and they just punched each other a lot.
1531
01:12:21.950 --> 01:12:24.090
And then Brody just clotheslined him and pinned him.
1532
01:12:24.230 --> 01:12:26.050
I mean, it was wild.
1533
01:12:26.650 --> 01:12:27.450
Yeah. And blurry lines.
1534
01:12:27.450 --> 01:12:29.170
You know, got to remember the mocks.
1535
01:12:29.210 --> 01:12:31.250
Kenny was like the first big feud in A.W.
1536
01:12:31.250 --> 01:12:35.210
Believe me, I do remember because I bought tickets to go to the first all out
1537
01:12:35.210 --> 01:12:37.470
because I was supposed to see Moxley and Kenny wrestle.
1538
01:12:37.630 --> 01:12:42.210
And then Moxley got injured in the G1 and it became Pac versus Kenny.
1539
01:12:42.310 --> 01:12:43.310
And that was still awesome.
1540
01:12:43.370 --> 01:12:45.310
Blurring lights up and they have years and years of history.
1541
01:12:45.390 --> 01:12:47.970
I know they are the Joker and Batman of A.W.
1542
01:12:48.210 --> 01:12:50.370
They take turns playing each role. It's crazy.
1543
01:12:52.690 --> 01:12:53.070
Screw universe.
1544
01:12:53.210 --> 01:12:55.550
I think Mox is basically saying, you're no fucking angel, Kenny.
1545
01:12:56.370 --> 01:13:00.010
He's he's he's the one wing angel, the devil, the ultimate
1546
01:13:00.970 --> 01:13:03.510
video game final boss, Sephiroth.
1547
01:13:03.770 --> 01:13:05.470
That is who he is on the inside.
1548
01:13:05.710 --> 01:13:08.370
And that's who I think Kenny should go out as.
1549
01:13:09.070 --> 01:13:10.170
Ooh, blurry line. How's the point?
1550
01:13:10.230 --> 01:13:13.070
How did I forget the mic drop heard around the world as Kenny went heel?
1551
01:13:13.510 --> 01:13:16.430
Yeah, I mean, when Kenny and Don did that turn,
1552
01:13:17.010 --> 01:13:20.210
that was so well done and the pandemic sucked so hard.
1553
01:13:20.510 --> 01:13:23.890
But they found something that really what an angle, you know,
1554
01:13:25.050 --> 01:13:26.590
A.W. has lots of great matches.
1555
01:13:27.670 --> 01:13:31.190
And they're still like, they are, they have really improved.
1556
01:13:32.290 --> 01:13:34.390
I love when they pull a really great angle,
1557
01:13:34.390 --> 01:13:37.690
because that is very different than pulling a really great match.
1558
01:13:38.390 --> 01:13:41.370
And Kenny has been at the epicenter of many of them.
1559
01:13:41.390 --> 01:13:46.290
Mm hmm. Kenny pretending to be this like little baby face right now
1560
01:13:46.290 --> 01:13:52.210
that's weak and not weak, but like his injury, his diverticulitis,
1561
01:13:52.290 --> 01:13:55.590
his guts almost exploding, having that play
1562
01:13:55.590 --> 01:13:57.830
into this little baby face run he's doing.
1563
01:13:57.990 --> 01:14:00.630
So when he does turn, because at the end of the day,
1564
01:14:01.290 --> 01:14:03.290
the Kenny and the Bucks are better as heels.
1565
01:14:03.650 --> 01:14:05.030
They always have been.
1566
01:14:05.490 --> 01:14:09.790
Oh, yeah. And it's going to be a massive like.
1567
01:14:10.670 --> 01:14:12.730
Especially with the Bucks where they are right now, right?
1568
01:14:14.740 --> 01:14:17.120
Like this heel, when they switch heels,
1569
01:14:17.440 --> 01:14:19.680
when they switch to heel again, it's going to be.
1570
01:14:22.090 --> 01:14:24.150
The Bucks have already gone back to like,
1571
01:14:24.530 --> 01:14:27.130
I love their matches and who gives a fuck besides that?
1572
01:14:27.670 --> 01:14:31.430
Like. They're just they're kind of already.
1573
01:14:32.310 --> 01:14:32.930
They're already there.
1574
01:14:33.210 --> 01:14:36.030
I mean, I mean, we were talking about this
1575
01:14:36.030 --> 01:14:38.290
when they first went baby face, like.
1576
01:14:39.550 --> 01:14:44.090
I don't like them as baby faces because they become very bland
1577
01:14:44.090 --> 01:14:46.850
very quickly and they're kind of bland already.
1578
01:14:46.850 --> 01:14:47.910
And I love those guys.
1579
01:14:47.910 --> 01:14:50.030
They're my favorite tag team of all time.
1580
01:14:50.250 --> 01:14:51.350
Way better as heels.
1581
01:14:51.950 --> 01:14:53.110
Yeah, it's time to start.
1582
01:14:53.470 --> 01:14:55.650
It's time to start to switch. Yeah.
1583
01:14:55.650 --> 01:14:57.190
But I think they're going to go heel.
1584
01:14:57.810 --> 01:15:00.510
I think what's going to happen is it's going to be forbidden to our redemption.
1585
01:15:01.310 --> 01:15:04.870
Bucks are going to be caging cope because they're going to go to heel.
1586
01:15:05.630 --> 01:15:10.950
Kenny is going to beat MJF and go to like in a in a heel way.
1587
01:15:11.230 --> 01:15:12.810
And we're going to get that heel turn.
1588
01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:16.540
I hope so. That would be awesome.
1589
01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:20.280
I would love another great crazed heel Kenny Omega.
1590
01:15:21.240 --> 01:15:24.700
He can grow his hardly raised beard back or his Triple H beard,
1591
01:15:24.820 --> 01:15:26.040
whatever you want to call it.
1592
01:15:26.040 --> 01:15:29.260
The shelf life of a Bucks baby face run is like one pay-per-view cycle.
1593
01:15:29.320 --> 01:15:32.320
They do need to reset every now and again, but it can't last so long.
1594
01:15:33.300 --> 01:15:35.380
You called it Blair. I couldn't have said it any better.
1595
01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:39.260
That's that it's one pay-per-view and we're fast at one pay-per-view.
1596
01:15:39.480 --> 01:15:41.760
Yeah, we were at like two pay-per-views
1597
01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:44.200
and it's there was no pay-per-views for several months.
1598
01:15:44.900 --> 01:15:45.740
So screw your universe.
1599
01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:48.840
Speaking of video games, mocks look like he's right out of River City.
1600
01:15:49.160 --> 01:15:50.620
Ransom, you know what I'm talking about?
1601
01:15:50.620 --> 01:15:51.720
Go get your colon checked.
1602
01:15:52.140 --> 01:15:55.600
Hey, I have a colonoscopy scheduled my first one ever anyway.
1603
01:15:56.420 --> 01:15:57.520
Enough of my ass.
1604
01:15:57.680 --> 01:16:00.380
The elite don't have to be pure heels, but definitely tweener as fuck.
1605
01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:01.240
Yeah. Yeah.
1606
01:16:02.220 --> 01:16:04.340
Always never says no hardly raised beard.
1607
01:16:05.660 --> 01:16:06.840
It was not Kenny's best look.
1608
01:16:06.940 --> 01:16:10.820
Yeah. The other match that they had for the Owen Hart was Mark Davis,
1609
01:16:10.820 --> 01:16:15.480
who beat Jack Perry clean to advance and he will face Will Ospreay.
1610
01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:17.380
This was a fantastic match.
1611
01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:22.380
And Mark Davis is really having a moment right now, kind of under the radar.
1612
01:16:23.160 --> 01:16:24.560
It kind of reminds me of Kyle Fletcher
1613
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:26.660
when he was the ROH TV champion.
1614
01:16:29.060 --> 01:16:30.200
Super, super good.
1615
01:16:31.020 --> 01:16:33.860
Super. Oh, you're sitting here standing for Kenny in the chat.
1616
01:16:34.080 --> 01:16:36.280
Is this real? Wow.
1617
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:38.500
Kenny should just grow a soul patch.
1618
01:16:39.940 --> 01:16:41.840
Kaylee says, I need to see the Young Bucks hold gold again,
1619
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:44.220
no matter what hoes have a problem with them.
1620
01:16:44.900 --> 01:16:45.340
Yes.
1621
01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:47.940
Yeah, no, they'll hold gold again.
1622
01:16:47.940 --> 01:16:50.320
I want the Young Bucks to win the titles again, but as heels.
1623
01:16:51.720 --> 01:16:53.160
The next episode of Pro Wrestling Forever
1624
01:16:53.160 --> 01:16:56.420
is just degree doing a doctor Heine segment.
1625
01:16:56.820 --> 01:16:58.340
Let's never know.
1626
01:16:58.340 --> 01:17:00.720
Bucks always turn face because they're just so damn good in the ring.
1627
01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:01.800
We can't help but cheer them.
1628
01:17:01.940 --> 01:17:05.420
But then it's so easy to get tired of them and they return to their best selves.
1629
01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:07.700
Yeah. Yeah, basically. Yeah.
1630
01:17:08.160 --> 01:17:10.920
So anyway, Mark Davis beats Jack Perry clean
1631
01:17:11.500 --> 01:17:15.620
with a pile driver off the second fucking rope that he spun around on.
1632
01:17:16.080 --> 01:17:20.180
So this dude's ass is literally so large that Jack Perry felt safe
1633
01:17:20.180 --> 01:17:24.800
taking that spot because he knew how much padding there would be for his head.
1634
01:17:26.480 --> 01:17:28.780
This was a great match, really good match.
1635
01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:30.420
And Mark Davis is just having great matches.
1636
01:17:30.480 --> 01:17:32.260
He was on Ring of Honor last night.
1637
01:17:32.340 --> 01:17:34.920
Wrestling Adam, what's Adam Priest?
1638
01:17:35.380 --> 01:17:36.600
Very good match.
1639
01:17:37.200 --> 01:17:38.860
It was fantastic stuff.
1640
01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:42.680
There were no women's own matches at all this week.
1641
01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:45.720
There's no women's own matches on collision this week.
1642
01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:49.660
There is one women's own match on Dynamite next week
1643
01:17:49.660 --> 01:17:55.360
when Alex Windsor faces the the wild card, wild card.
1644
01:17:55.900 --> 01:17:58.520
Hazuki is going to wrestle on collision
1645
01:17:58.520 --> 01:18:02.380
with Persephone calling on commentary.
1646
01:18:03.020 --> 01:18:04.420
So that's at least something.
1647
01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:06.320
But come on now.
1648
01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:07.560
Like, what the fuck?
1649
01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:09.080
A.W. is so good.
1650
01:18:09.260 --> 01:18:14.200
And it's so infuriating to have one gigantic blind spot
1651
01:18:14.200 --> 01:18:16.020
the way they do right now.
1652
01:18:16.260 --> 01:18:18.720
Antoine says, I actually, but Blade, I think you are right.
1653
01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:21.300
Wow. Oh, what?
1654
01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:24.780
I don't even I don't even know what to say.
1655
01:18:25.900 --> 01:18:27.640
There's a whole goddamn tournament for the women.
1656
01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:29.540
We aren't getting as many matches as we should.
1657
01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:31.780
Again, TK, sack the fuck up, bro.
1658
01:18:33.080 --> 01:18:35.020
Tino says, I'm excited for that person.
1659
01:18:35.160 --> 01:18:36.320
So good on the mic.
1660
01:18:36.400 --> 01:18:38.000
People need to hear her more.
1661
01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:39.380
Agreed. Agreed.
1662
01:18:39.460 --> 01:18:40.700
She's fantastic on the mic.
1663
01:18:41.060 --> 01:18:45.920
Persephone is the next up and coming like megastar
1664
01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:48.880
that I could see just being massive in A.W.
1665
01:18:50.140 --> 01:18:51.360
Yeah, she's my dark.
1666
01:18:51.660 --> 01:18:53.840
Well, they give her if they give her time.
1667
01:18:54.380 --> 01:18:55.540
Yeah, if they give her time.
1668
01:18:56.140 --> 01:18:59.400
But she's if Athena doesn't win this tournament,
1669
01:18:59.760 --> 01:19:01.160
Persephone is my dark horse candidate.
1670
01:19:02.260 --> 01:19:05.980
So I was hearing that that Athena loves being on our age
1671
01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:09.480
just makes me sad because I'm like, oh, God.
1672
01:19:10.120 --> 01:19:12.500
Yeah, she kind of called the people out who are like,
1673
01:19:12.500 --> 01:19:13.440
I want to see her in a W.
1674
01:19:13.440 --> 01:19:14.320
She kind of called them out.
1675
01:19:14.400 --> 01:19:15.640
Yes. Last night on Ring of Honor,
1676
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:19.520
I was like, damn fine, Athena, whatever.
1677
01:19:20.120 --> 01:19:23.640
I think she knows she can do real good there and training.
1678
01:19:24.540 --> 01:19:25.660
The next up and coming.
1679
01:19:25.960 --> 01:19:28.660
So I'm trying to give her grace there.
1680
01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:30.080
Aren't there a couple of women in the own
1681
01:19:30.080 --> 01:19:31.720
who are also on the injured list right now?
1682
01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:34.760
That was Suri and Persephone, but they're both their matches.
1683
01:19:35.380 --> 01:19:36.420
Yeah, you're right, degree.
1684
01:19:36.480 --> 01:19:39.220
So their matches were are being delayed to June
1685
01:19:39.900 --> 01:19:41.340
for injury purposes.
1686
01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:43.580
That is correct. I forgot that.
1687
01:19:43.580 --> 01:19:44.640
So that's at least fair.
1688
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:45.540
That's fine.
1689
01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:49.960
But they still could at least put a supplemental
1690
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:51.420
women's match on to make up.
1691
01:19:51.620 --> 01:19:53.700
Well, yeah, I mean, something, something.
1692
01:19:53.920 --> 01:19:54.520
No, that's true.
1693
01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:56.280
But yeah, as for the oh, and that's true.
1694
01:19:56.580 --> 01:19:57.120
Always never.
1695
01:19:57.260 --> 01:19:59.260
I still mourn that we never got another random tournament
1696
01:19:59.260 --> 01:20:01.980
with another promotion like the one we got with Tokyo Joshi Pro.
1697
01:20:02.340 --> 01:20:03.880
I know. I know.
1698
01:20:04.120 --> 01:20:04.840
That would be fun.
1699
01:20:05.120 --> 01:20:07.880
Also, remember that random tag team tournament
1700
01:20:07.880 --> 01:20:09.980
they did years ago with the women?
1701
01:20:10.080 --> 01:20:12.580
They just had that that that I think.
1702
01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:16.100
I think TaiJay won it.
1703
01:20:16.300 --> 01:20:19.400
But like Brandi Rhodes was in it with Allie.
1704
01:20:19.580 --> 01:20:21.200
Oh, God, I forgot about this.
1705
01:20:21.400 --> 01:20:22.160
Yeah, yeah.
1706
01:20:22.220 --> 01:20:25.700
But like, like they've done women's tournaments before.
1707
01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:27.300
They should just do more of them.
1708
01:20:27.780 --> 01:20:31.520
So here I said this last night on the Books and Becks show.
1709
01:20:32.660 --> 01:20:38.120
If Tony Khan will announce that the TBS championship
1710
01:20:38.780 --> 01:20:43.420
will the winner of a C2 for women's will win the TBS,
1711
01:20:43.920 --> 01:20:46.840
I may be a little less harsh on him.
1712
01:20:48.120 --> 01:20:49.600
But I don't have much hope.
1713
01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:50.160
I'm not holding.
1714
01:20:50.440 --> 01:20:52.760
I definitely don't have a lot of hope for that.
1715
01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:54.860
I don't have a lot of hope for that.
1716
01:20:55.220 --> 01:20:57.200
I'm looking at.
1717
01:20:57.660 --> 01:21:00.180
That image for redemption,
1718
01:21:01.340 --> 01:21:04.760
very interesting, you know, I think it's very interesting.
1719
01:21:04.780 --> 01:21:08.740
I think it does look kind of a conventionally effeminate or whatever.
1720
01:21:09.400 --> 01:21:10.560
I have some hope.
1721
01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:14.040
I hope something cool, something unique is going on there.
1722
01:21:14.480 --> 01:21:17.440
Oh, he's never said Diamante and Evil Ease one spelling.
1723
01:21:17.660 --> 01:21:18.440
Yes, that's right.
1724
01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:20.280
That's who won. Yes.
1725
01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:23.900
Evil Ease had the coolest fucking music and Diamante appropriated
1726
01:21:23.900 --> 01:21:27.740
like a different mix of the same song.
1727
01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:29.680
But the original mix was so dope.
1728
01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:31.660
I told Mikey Ruckus that to his face.
1729
01:21:31.780 --> 01:21:34.380
Side note, Perce being so good on the mic is extra impressive
1730
01:21:34.380 --> 01:21:36.660
because CMLL doesn't really nurture that skill.
1731
01:21:37.080 --> 01:21:37.960
Not a ton of promos.
1732
01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:39.800
It's just something she has a natural gift for.
1733
01:21:39.800 --> 01:21:41.140
Yeah, for sure.
1734
01:21:41.420 --> 01:21:47.420
I was shocked at how like good her promos were when I first heard her talk.
1735
01:21:47.580 --> 01:21:48.740
Wasn't that long ago.
1736
01:21:49.380 --> 01:21:49.820
Last comment.
1737
01:21:49.960 --> 01:21:53.920
I think AW need to either get Persephone TV time or risk losing her to WWE.
1738
01:21:54.240 --> 01:21:55.620
We do not want that.
1739
01:21:55.860 --> 01:21:56.820
Tony, no.
1740
01:21:57.160 --> 01:21:58.820
If you cost us Persephone.
1741
01:21:59.180 --> 01:22:00.020
I think we should.
1742
01:22:00.020 --> 01:22:04.720
We wrote this to NXT because NXT and ROH are the only major
1743
01:22:04.720 --> 01:22:06.800
like big promotions booking women.
1744
01:22:07.340 --> 01:22:08.780
It's true. It's true.
1745
01:22:08.780 --> 01:22:10.740
And that is a trend.
1746
01:22:10.740 --> 01:22:13.100
It is a trend beyond just AEW.
1747
01:22:13.280 --> 01:22:15.620
Women are just in the main major promotions,
1748
01:22:15.660 --> 01:22:18.320
AEW and WWE main rosters.
1749
01:22:18.500 --> 01:22:20.380
They are not being booked well at all.
1750
01:22:20.460 --> 01:22:25.120
I mean, my conspiracy theory is is linked to like the Manosphere
1751
01:22:25.120 --> 01:22:27.080
and the weird.
1752
01:22:27.200 --> 01:22:29.340
Uprise of like tried wives and.
1753
01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:33.360
I think wrestling fans are.
1754
01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:37.860
Slow on the uptake in a lot of ways and.
1755
01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:41.180
Anytime they're worried about ratings or anything,
1756
01:22:41.180 --> 01:22:42.840
they default to dudes.
1757
01:22:43.240 --> 01:22:44.240
And I don't know why.
1758
01:22:44.660 --> 01:22:45.420
I don't know why.
1759
01:22:45.660 --> 01:22:49.720
But you would also think a show that's based when women come out
1760
01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:52.740
and like basically bras and pants, like a little bit more coverage
1761
01:22:52.740 --> 01:22:54.060
than bra and panties.
1762
01:22:54.120 --> 01:22:56.100
You think that would be more appealing to dudes.
1763
01:22:56.660 --> 01:23:00.620
But yeah, yeah, you would just to be gross for a second.
1764
01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:05.540
I mean, AEW has one of the best women's rosters of all time.
1765
01:23:06.240 --> 01:23:08.220
I want to see these people wrestle.
1766
01:23:09.700 --> 01:23:14.680
On your main shows, not on our age, not behind a paywall,
1767
01:23:14.820 --> 01:23:18.980
not on YouTube, I want to see you wrestle on dynamite
1768
01:23:18.980 --> 01:23:19.440
and collision.
1769
01:23:19.900 --> 01:23:20.940
Not that hard.
1770
01:23:21.620 --> 01:23:22.320
It's not that hard.
1771
01:23:22.700 --> 01:23:24.980
Devil Dinosaur says it would suck to lose Persephone to NXT,
1772
01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:26.400
but at least they'd use her better.
1773
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:29.260
Are you listening, Tony Khan, are you listening?
1774
01:23:30.040 --> 01:23:33.940
And with that, I will thank you all for listening
1775
01:23:34.440 --> 01:23:36.320
and joining us live in the chat today.
1776
01:23:36.320 --> 01:23:38.720
And if you're listening on your podcast,
1777
01:23:39.280 --> 01:23:43.560
make sure you go to the show notes and click the link
1778
01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:46.540
so that we can write to WBD and to TBS
1779
01:23:46.540 --> 01:23:50.120
and really advocate for something to change here.
1780
01:23:50.280 --> 01:23:54.160
And if we're wrong and it's not them
1781
01:23:54.160 --> 01:23:57.880
that's making these requests and Tony Khan has to own that,
1782
01:23:57.940 --> 01:23:59.060
let's make him own it.
1783
01:23:59.580 --> 01:24:01.160
But we're not one way or the other,
1784
01:24:01.180 --> 01:24:02.800
we cannot let these guys off the hook.
1785
01:24:03.100 --> 01:24:05.660
I am so tired of it.
1786
01:24:05.660 --> 01:24:08.560
And I'm just beyond the excuses now.
1787
01:24:09.040 --> 01:24:11.220
Until next time, I'm Blade Daily.
1788
01:24:11.860 --> 01:24:13.500
And I'm Books and Body Swims.
1789
01:24:13.960 --> 01:24:15.740
Pro wrestling forever.